I couldn't believe that. I was shouting at the TV. "Why are you clapping for the bufffoon? You bloody idiots". Oooooo! I was riled.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
- Thread starter Livewire1974
- Start date
- Status
And that one draw will be a hastily arranged midweek friendly against Fleetwood
Precisely. How some deduced that Pep routinely had the beating of Mourinho in terms of tactics beats me to be honest, especially within the context of the Internazionale game. Plus, to pile onto that La Liga win part - in each of Mourinho's 3 seasons at Real Madrid, they reached the semi-finals of the European Cup (equaled Fergie's record of semi-final appearances in 2012/ 2013), when in the sort of half-decade preceding his appointment, they never managed to progress beyond the first knockout stage. So there's something to be said about him re-establishing Real Madrid as a genuine European contender too, culminating in the eventual triumph under Ancelotti (this isn't to take anything away from Carlo mind, merely pointing out that Madrid were a relative shambles in the Champions League, figuratively speaking - when Mourinho took charge). But who has time for that when one in set to discredit his entire tenure (as some are)?
I get that, it didn't annoy me, but I think Woodward and LvG are too close and maybe it's blinding Woodward's judgment. Didn't a poster on here say LvG are close friends off the pitch too?
"How can I resign after performance like that" said van Gaal after 0-0 home draw against Shrewsbury.
He's right though. We lost that game and they clapped the manager. It's like somebody punching you on the nose and then in the stomach and you then shake their hand for doing it.
This forum is bonkers!
I wouldn't want to be a close friend of LvG. Ask Valdes and RvP about that.
To be fair its true.
The fact he survived that run over Christmas suggests his job is safe. Utterly bonkers from the board. That draw at home to a crap Chelsea saved him.
Returning to the Pep v Jose discussion, it should be noted that Pep, not Jose, had Lionel Messi in his quiver.
As great as the sides that both Pep and Jose had at their disposal, Messi was far and away the best player on the pitch. Pep had work to do, and he did it well, but who can honestly deny that Messi was the real difference between the two clubs?
As great as the sides that both Pep and Jose had at their disposal, Messi was far and away the best player on the pitch. Pep had work to do, and he did it well, but who can honestly deny that Messi was the real difference between the two clubs?
it's funny because it's actually realisticRonaldo would.
Doubt there's any manager that would have won anything with his squads at Southampton or Spurs so you're off to a bad start there
Well I hope so, the further we can transition away from this shite the better. Poch has built a spurs team with no player in the squad over 30, stats say they've ran the most and you can see the hunger their players have when closing down and chasing a loose ball.
He's also brought young players into the fold, given them responsibility and lads like Alli and Dier are really responding to it. His coaching has really brought on the likes of Dembele, Rose and Alderweireld too.
He has a good project underway at Spurs, wouldn't be surprised if he wants to see how it develops rather than start again with our fairly sluggish squad which is totally unsuited to his style of football.
Same, Takes alot to get me angry but I was raging at that. Absolute morons!
What they said about Amazing Dave too.
How many years did Moyesy have though? Poch is at Spurs what 20 months and they already look capable of challenging for the title. Hard to see the parallel you're trying to draw here...
F365 on Manchester United's Transfer Window:
The league is of an extremely poor standard right now though so easier for Spurs to look like title challengers than it was for Amazing Dave's Everton. Not necessarily saying Poch is a bad manager, I think he's very good but not what we need. We need Mourinho.
The part about the fans seems true. It's applicable to me, at the very least. I may have visited the transfer threads four or fives times this month, and couldn't even be bothered to interest myself in any rumours. Just awaiting D-Day.
A 0-0 draw will probably buy him some more time.
Don't take this personally. This is just football we are talking about. The reason for Barca's success isn't due to the money they spent on Zlatan or Dani Alves. It's because they stuck with the club's core principles and developed players from their academy. Even after Pep, they stood by same principle and appointed from within their system. While on the other hand, RM had a very different philosophy which I cannot identify with as a football fan. It's safe to say, Jose's time at RM was a tumultuous failure. Atleast, that was the consensus on the caf during that time.
Did you just claim that Barca had a superior side
Of course they did.
Look at the midfields: Madrid had Khedira and Modric, whereas Barca had Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets - probably the best midfield trio of all time.
Same with me.
I think anyone we buy won't be able to do much to protect us from Van Gaal's shitty approach to playing football.
In fact, I think I've resigned myself to watching City win a few titles and a couple of CL in the next few years. Hoping it won't happen, but the good money is on the club (United) not reaching anywhere near our Ferguson era highs.
Sorry but I can't bring myself to defend RM and their transfer spendings. If anything, half of Barca squad came from their academy.
That's my attitude towards the entire club at the moment.
LVG has made me extremely apathetic towards everything. I'm only watching our games just to support the players and the team, not van Gaal. Similar to how Moyes made me hate football the season he was with us.
For sure Mouriniho has had Pep's number a fair few times. Now he is at City and Mouriniho is available, the board can decide to challenge them or take the other route towards eternal mediocrity. Time is ticking. Appoint Jose.
I think one of the most damning things against the club is the sheer apathy that is growing in the club followers.
Anger at the current farce is becoming pointless...yet so is being hopeful that anything will improve.
These club ideas of patience and long-term thinking have been given far too much importance. There is little justification for focusing on either when something is inherently wrong at the club. Long-term thinking especially is a dangerous thing to cling to in my opinion - most people can't predict what we will happen in the next two years, nevermind 5-10 years and beyond. There has to be noticeable progress in the short-term and when that isn't evident, you need to wake up and do something.
Ferguson and his lucky escape from the sack isn't justification for burying heads in the sand.
Anger at the current farce is becoming pointless...yet so is being hopeful that anything will improve.
These club ideas of patience and long-term thinking have been given far too much importance. There is little justification for focusing on either when something is inherently wrong at the club. Long-term thinking especially is a dangerous thing to cling to in my opinion - most people can't predict what we will happen in the next two years, nevermind 5-10 years and beyond. There has to be noticeable progress in the short-term and when that isn't evident, you need to wake up and do something.
Ferguson and his lucky escape from the sack isn't justification for burying heads in the sand.
I didn't think we'd sign anybody that doesn't mean that I'm happy about it. It wound me up big style. Especially with the injury problems we have at the back.
I have to say that it takes away his injury crisis response to our poor form. If you haven't got any fit players buy or loan some. If you don't buy a single player stop moaning about the injuries because either you didn't want to bring anybody in or you are incapable of attracting any players that would improve the squad. I repeat improve the squad not the first team.
if that is true, no wonder this club has gone to the dogs, only at a club like CUFC would you get a bottle of wine for doing a job so bad, it is like watching jack and jill
It's like there's a disease infecting the club. And instead of attempting to cure it, we're brushing it under the rug, hoping it'll sort it outself. Almost too scared to admit that things have gone wrong.
I don't think ideas like that are particularly bad in principle. It's good to show patience when it's warranted, and long-term thinking should be a part of every club's thinking in a more general sense of the word.
It's just that (some) posters who like the idea of Giggs coming in use words like "patience" and "long-term thinking", when what they really mean is wanting to go for Giggs for the romanticism of it all. Patience is something that has to be earned, I think. I'm perfectly willing to give a new manager patience, for example, but any manager has to actually earn that patience.
It's painfully obvious that, in terms of transfers, he's no longer trusted.
I am desperate to know what is going on behind the scenes at the club right now. How on earth are we still persisting with this buffoon?
The second best manager in the world who could still galvanize our team and season is there for the taking, but we're just sitting idly by with our cock in our hands pretending everything is hunky dory.
Absolutely maddening.
The second best manager in the world who could still galvanize our team and season is there for the taking, but we're just sitting idly by with our cock in our hands pretending everything is hunky dory.
Absolutely maddening.
You start of saying that Pep didn't have a better squad than Mourinho and now you twist it into its different because they were academy players
Same here, there's no point in getting excited about signings when you have no faith at all in the man signing them. He could wreck their confidence, inexplicably drop them or play them completely out of position just because he feels like it.
When we were linked with that rightback yesterday I didn't think "Oh good we might get cover." I thought "Right he will sign him, won't play him for 3 weeks as he lacks 'match rhythm' by which time Darmian will be back and then we will play him as a centreback."
I feel this is also underplayed. We're routinely bombarded with LvG set up the foundations of X side, etc. But Mourinho's defensive nous transformed that Madrid side into a top class European team. I honestly believe that without Jose then Real never would have won La Decima. He organized that side in way they had lacked since about 2002.
Yep, been asked to death. Yeah, was intentional.Mind you, I do have misgivings about Jose, but to deny his accomplishments in Italy and Spain is just wrong. As it stands, I'd have him as manager in a heartbeat. It's the only logical appointment as far as I'm concerned -- and the guy wants the fecking job. What else is needed?
Right, but there's a big difference between getting the best out of Spurs' squad and getting the best out of ours. At least, in my opinion.
- Status