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Did you just claim that Barca had a superior side :lol:
I tell you what - first, save the smileys for someone else; and second - show how Barcelona weren't a superior team with a consistent setup dating back to 2008, whereas Mourinho took charge of Madrid in 2010. Man for man, Madrid were a good tier below them. Unless you can somehow divine otherwise.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I've underlined and put in bold came in the 2012-13 season when Guardiola wasn't in charge of Barça.
Ah yes, edited, totally forgot about Pep's sabbatical, and Tito (:().
 
Dont do this to yourself people.

There is no way we didnt know Pep was City bound for a couple of months now. We've basically briefed a couple of times about how we had no interest in him.

Since then Van Gaal has struggled, Mourinho has shouted his availability now for months, yet we've not acted. Win, lose or draw, Van Gaal isnt going anywhere. Not until the end of the season at least. Van Gaal has even recently been talking about his great relationship with Ed , and how he intends to stay here for another season.

He said that? Noooooooooo please no.
 
Dont do this to yourself people.

There is no way we didnt know Pep was City bound for a couple of months now. We've basically briefed a couple of times about how we had no interest in him.

Since then Van Gaal has struggled, Mourinho has shouted his availability now for months, yet we've not acted. Win, lose or draw, Van Gaal isnt going anywhere. Not until the end of the season at least. Van Gaal has even recently been talking about his great relationship with Ed , and how he intends to stay here for another season.
even if we finish out of top 4? keeping van gaal after that, after sacking moyes for falling out of top 4 (rightly so), would be hypocritical and downright stupid on our part.
 
even if we finish out of top 4? keeping van gaal after that, after sacking moyes for falling out of top 4 (rightly so), would be hypocritical and downright stupid on our part.
Yeah but they're buddies so they'll be the best of fwends foreva and eva and eva and eva and...
 


Ah yes, Pep schooled José everytime - including in the semi-finals of the 2010/ 2011 European Cup where Internazionale were down to ten men at Camp Nou.

Anyway, their total record stands at:

Matches played: 15.
Wins for Guardiola: 7.
Wins for Mourinho: 3.
Draws: 5.

That's not schooled everytime by any stretch of the imagination, especially when Pep had the superior team (personnel wise) almost all the time.

And apart from the first match at Real Madrid vs Barcelona, their La Liga record stands at:

Real Madrid 1:1 Barcelona
Real Madrid 1:3 Barcelona
Barcelona 1:2 Real Madrid

Even if you include the 5-0 at Camp Nou, their overall La Liga record stands at:

Wins for Guardiola: 2.
Wins for Mourinho: 1.
Draws: 1.

Schooled indeed.

Thanks, I couldn't be bothered to reply after his "schooled" comment.
 
If we are not in a good position today, with no signings in january and city getting pep, the fans will riot. Think there is a chance we may see a very very hostile atmosphere. Stoke have a good team, although i am not sure who will play but bojan, arnautovic,shaquiri and co might just do the job.

Mourinho has to be the one, if we go for any other manager, it will be taking a piss on the fans face who pay for the tickets. Pochettino wont do, sampoli wont do, it has to be a winner and there is no one better than Jose!
 
Didn't that clown say he'd heard from "sources" that we were signing Ronaldo in the summer?
 
Guardiola clearly had stronger teams than Mourinho, every time their teams played each other. I am surprised that anyone would dispute that.

You disagree with that statement!? :lol:

Jesus Christ, with the amount of money RM splurged, you would think he had a decent squad. Even for the sake of argument, I think Jose would still lose to Barca with a "better squad". Pep and Barca were on a different level during that time.
 
I tell you what - first, save the smileys for someone else; and second - show how Barcelona weren't a superior team with a consistent setup dating back to 2008, whereas Mourinho took charge of Madrid in 2010. Man for man, Madrid were a good tier below them. Unless you can somehow divine otherwise.

Ah yes, edited, totally forgot about Pep's sabbatical, and Tito (:().

I saw all those games. Just because you post video links doesn't change much. If anything, I was supporting RM back then. My personal opinion was, Jose rarely came close to beating Pep tactically. Even the games he won, RM were holding onto their nuts for most of the game. It was his defensive approach that irked fans at RM.That eventually became his undoing and whatever crazy shit(eye poke, blaming the officials support Barca etc) he did while in charge.
 
If we are not in a good position today, with no signings in january and city getting pep, the fans will riot. Think there is a chance we may see a very very hostile atmosphere. Stoke have a good team, although i am not sure who will play but bojan, arnautovic,shaquiri and co might just do the job.

Mourinho has to be the one, if we go for any other manager, it will be taking a piss on the fans face who pay for the tickets. Pochettino wont do, sampoli wont do, it has to be a winner and there is no one better than Jose!

After city announcing Pep, if we lose or draw it's just opening up the injuries even more
 

At this stage, I would give both balls for this to be true.

Not sure how good this is. Poch has won the sum total of feck all. It's taken him nearly two years to get this Spurs side playing the way he wants. So, essentially, what we're advocating is another transition period.
 
This thread will still be going next season, sadly, as we continue to slide in to mediocrity. I pray the board sort something out soon.
 
Think we'll win tonight, but it will be interesting if we don't. I can see the doom and gloom going up a level.
 
Not sure how good this is. Poch has won the sum total of feck all. It's taken him nearly two years to get this Spurs side playing the way he wants. So, essentially, what we're advocating is another transition period.
To be fair, he's spent very little and has bought well. Same with Southampton. I think he will even do better if he has the kind of kitty we give managers. And most importantly, will get the best out of our current lot without needing a complete overhaul.
 
To be fair, he's spent very little and has bought well. Same with Southampton. I think he will even do better if he has the kind of kitty we give managers. And most importantly, will get the best out of a current lot without needing a complete overhaul.
I like the style of football he plays, but do wonder if it's feasible first of all, and secondly, if our fans will have the patience required. It would be a genuine two-three year project. A good chance he won't hit the ground running.

As for players. I'm curious as to his track record -- has he been in control of everyone brought in and sold?
 
Jesus Christ, with the amount of money RM splurged, you would think he had a decent squad. Even for the sake of argument, I think Jose would still lose to Barca with a "better squad". Pep and Barca were on a different level during that time.
Yeah, all the money that Mourinho spent. It's not like Guardiola/ Barcelona bought Zlatan for almost €70 million, Villa for €40 million, Alves for €35 million, Cesc for almost €35 million, and so forth. On top of having Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol and co; and perhaps most importantly - having the most important spine players of Spain's 2008 European Championship triumph. There's a massive difference between having a 'decent squad' and the rubbish you posted before, green smileys included.

Guardiola deserves a lot of credit for shaping the team and taking them to another dimension (and if you want, you can check a couple other threads where he's been praised for the same), but he most definitely had superior players at his disposal. Alonso is/ was no Xavi, Khedira is/ was no Iniesta, Pepe/ Ramos most certainly weren't Puyol level defenders, Alves is arguably the greatest wingback of the last decade. Can't see how anyone can rationally argue against Pep having a superior squad. Don't even know what you're basing the 'I think Jose would still lose to Barca with a better squad' argument on to be honest.
I saw all those games. Just because you post video links doesn't change much. If anything, I was supporting RM back then. My personal opinion was, Jose rarely came close to beating Pep tactically. Even the games he won, RM were holding onto their nuts for most of the game. It was his defensive approach that irked fans at RM.That eventually became his undoing and whatever crazy shit(eye poke, blaming the officials support Barca etc) he did while in charge.
You can't be serious with the rarely came close comment? How was outfoxing him at San Siro, and stifling him in the reverse leg at Camp Nou not getting the better of Pep tactically? Especially when man for man Internazionale were inferior to Barcelona. Yeah, I like this - when Mourinho's team won they were holding onto their nuts, but Guardiola always vanquished them with champagne football. Very good.

Defensive approach irked them, and they scored more goals than Barcelona too? Setting La Liga records in the process that still stand to this day? As for the last part - now we're talking. Didn't take long to transition from semi-factual debate to 'crazy' shit commentary. The bias is quite evident to be honest, there's no need to even deny it.
 
I dread to think what the reaction at OT will be if we lost. It won't be polite applause.
He'd have to be sacked. Although he wouldn't be.

I just want us to win. I want van Gaal out but not at the expense of losing top four, which is what happens if we lose tonight.
 
I know what Woodward's reaction will be though.

Sit on his hands and do nothing? I think we made to a stage where LvG will stay until the summer or beyond no matter what.
 
With regard to the Mourinho/Pep thing. Mourinho won Madrid's only title in the last eight years or so. Also, that Inter win was a tactical masterclass. Anyone saying otherwise is really wrong on every single level. I remember watching it and being genuinely fecking impressed at how well Jose set Inter up against the best side in the history of modern club football.
 
I want us to win as well.
Weird situation though, isn't it. Knowing that long term LvG is almost certainly bad for the club, but losing is the only way he gets the sack. It's also worse for us if we lose.

Best case scenario is we scrape top four and Woodward and friends realise we need a new manager in the summer. Not sure I could take a third year of philosophy.
 
I like the style of football he plays, but do wonder if it's feasible first of all, and secondly, if our fans will have the patience required. It would be a genuine two-three year project. A good chance he won't hit the ground running.

As for players. I'm curious as to his track record -- has he been in control of everyone brought in and sold?
With he exception of Dier and Alli most of Their starting 11 was there before he arrived. The thing is I think he will get our players playing much better than they current are pretty quickly. Even though our squad isn't special if it was punching at its weight, we would be quite comfortably in the top four while playing decent football. I think fans would find that acceptable while we continue to improve. And with the up and down nature of the league whose to say we wouldn't be challenging if the players where playing at the level we know they can play. Leicester were battling relegation last year and are suddenly on top in February.
 
Sit on his hands and do nothing? I think we made to a stage where LvG will stay until the summer or beyond no matter what.

I think we could lose the next 10 games and his position would still be safe. Performances do not matter.
 
Weird situation though, isn't it. Knowing that long term LvG is almost certainly bad for the club, but losing is the only way he gets the sack. It's also worse for us if we lose.

Best case scenario is we scrape top four and Woodward and friends realise we need a new manager in the summer. Not sure I could take a third year of philosophy.
You've probably already been asked this to death, but why is your username "Mciahel"? Was that intentional?
 
I know it's illogical but Ed sending LVG a bottle of wine the other day actually pissed me off - it's like Woodward's saying to him: "We don't care what they say about us, darling." All too cosy; and there's more than enough cosiness/complacency at our club as it is.
 
Weird situation though, isn't it. Knowing that long term LvG is almost certainly bad for the club, but losing is the only way he gets the sack. It's also worse for us if we lose.

Best case scenario is we scrape top four and Woodward and friends realise we need a new manager in the summer. Not sure I could take a third year of philosophy.

He'll almost 100% get his contract extended by a year if by some miracle we make top 4.
 
I know it's illogical but Ed sending LVG a bottle of wine the other day actually pissed me off - it's like Woodward's saying to him: "We don't care what they say about us, darling." All too cosy; and there's more than enough cosiness/complacency at our club as it is.
But normally Ed would get him a 500ml bottle, this time he only gave him a 300ml!
 
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