57-43.
It was lower than our usual silent domination though.
I'm edging that way too now. I said a few days ago we should replace him in the summmer but we're getting worse.
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57-43.
It was lower than our usual silent domination though.
I'm edging that way too now. I said a few days ago we should replace him in the summmer but we're getting worse.
Not hired them?
you said it ! i don't think it's a matter of time personally, and think that there's a less than 1% chance of him being sacked tomorrow
Football is a simple game, complicated by idiots.
Ideally, I wanted him gone at the end of the season and replaced by Pep. Now that seems too far away.
Ideally, I wanted him gone at the end of the season and replaced by Pep. Now that seems too far away.
He does literally nothing that changes the flow of the game in our favor. Ever. Has no issues with helping out the opposition with his in game changes.
To be fair he is talking to a group of fans that include those who think Pep Guardiola couldn't drop everything and get on a plane from Munich to Manchester quick enough.
I was very confident. Have to say the last 10 or so games have made me extremely worried about 4th as well. But no chance would I fire him to leave the team to Giggs.
4 wins in the last 14 games.
FOUR.
And these were our 'easy' fixtures. We're truly fecked.
FOUR.
And these were our 'easy' fixtures. We're truly fecked.
He has lost the dressing room-spot on! The way that match petered out with so little effort, and Bournemouth embarrassing us....jeez
This plus the Mata for Powell in the Wolfsburg game.
Pointless sacking him now. It's either Ancelotti or Pep in the summer. Who do we get for 6 months?
He will be given til the end of the season and then I think it will be agreed it is best he leaves.
He will be given til the end of the season and then I think it will be agreed it is best he leaves.
He really doesn't get the December fixtures does he?
Giggs? It doesn't mean we will suddenly become great but it means we will be able to get Pep or Ancelotti in the summer if they're free.
I'd sack him now, but what is our alternative? Giggs?
I could see it being a struggle with Giggs as well and a huge risk.
Then again, we're in a real battle for top 4. It's been a terrible season when you consider how the other top teams have been so inconsistent.
I could see it being a struggle with Giggs as well and a huge risk.
Then again, we're in a real battle for top 4. It's been a terrible season when you consider how the other top teams have been so inconsistent.
I don't buy in to the Giggs love in as manager. Plus he is seemingly off to Swansea.
Won't be as easy as that by the looks of things, City and Arsenal are nailed on top 4, Chelsea are obviously gone but Spurs and Liverpool could easily give us a hard time of it, expect Leicester to fade away though still so not including them.
The stress of getting top 4 last season almost finished me off so not going there again this season, if we fall out of it then so be it.
Unless the club are bluffing then Pep seems a bit of pipe dream, would be quite happy with Carlo though, reckon he's made for the club.
This. I'm of the opinion we need someone else in now but we've got to be careful we don't damage the team and season by making this ugly. If people genuinely think Giggs would secure more points between now and the end of the season then that's an option but I'm not sure.
Try to get Ancelotti in. Don't see Pep going for us over City if we wait for the end of the season since we might not even be in the top 4 with LVG at the helm.
Ancelotti is available right now. He's keen on us by the sounds of it.
I'll tell what worries me about LVG the most. The fact that I see Bournmouth managed by this young chap with such ordinary players and yet able to implement possession football better than us. That's mental. The way they pass it in close quarters and fluidity of their version of possssion footballs beats LVG's Manchester United. It's bonkers and I can't get my head wrapped around it.
Just joined the LVG Out Crew,the last straw was the Fellani for Powell substitution.
Has he been sacked yet?
He looks like he has lost the dressing room and he has certainly lost the fans
Has he been sacked yet?
He looks like he has lost the dressing room and he has certainly lost the fans
I want to sack him now but Giggs isn't a viable alternative. We have to finish in the top four.
I've supported United for 30 years - and I have seen us go through rough periods Before. But after seeing us lose 5-0 or going 3-4 games without a win, I have just counted the days until we play again - so we can pick up a win. Not this time - I have completely lost faith in the club - and what is there to look forward to ?
We don't have a single striker who can score goals - we don't have a striker who runs and harrasses defenders. We don't have wingers who can cross the ball - the one we actually have seem to be blacklisted by LvG. We don't have a decent left back or right back for that matter. The one we do have - he is injured and will stay that way for 3-4 months more.
And we have a manager who gives youngster the chance - even when there is lots of better options on the bench. I am all for giving youngsters a chance but not for the sake of it.
We have a game against Norwich next - normally I would count the Days - but now ? We might win - 1-0 if we're lucky - but most likely it will be an utterly depressing game with no chances for either side.
Oh merry christmas btw
We don't have a single striker who can score goals - we don't have a striker who runs and harrasses defenders. We don't have wingers who can cross the ball - the one we actually have seem to be blacklisted by LvG. We don't have a decent left back or right back for that matter. The one we do have - he is injured and will stay that way for 3-4 months more.
And we have a manager who gives youngster the chance - even when there is lots of better options on the bench. I am all for giving youngsters a chance but not for the sake of it.
We have a game against Norwich next - normally I would count the Days - but now ? We might win - 1-0 if we're lucky - but most likely it will be an utterly depressing game with no chances for either side.
Oh merry christmas btw
His team selections are bizarre, and his substitutions are even stranger. His tactics are boring, we offer virtually no attacking threat or level of entertainment, we have no fight or commitment and he's regressed the abilities of most of our players. Our creative players are being converted in to sideways-passing, safe-playing non-threats who are scared to play with flair. The club has thrived on delivering players that get the crowd on their feet. If you're going to upend that tradition then you'd better deliver the results, and he simply isn't.
If Pep wants to join in the summer I'd rather wait.
We get Ancelotti, he will take the job if offered.
Giving it to Giggs seems the best logical course of action.
LvG has lost the dressing room obviously.
Give Giggs until May to prove himself as a top manager. If he excels great, we have a valid argument for Giggs as a permanent manager. If not, Pep or Ancelotti should be available at the end of the season.
LvG has lost the dressing room obviously.
Give Giggs until May to prove himself as a top manager. If he excels great, we have a valid argument for Giggs as a permanent manager. If not, Pep or Ancelotti should be available at the end of the season.
I firmly believe not sacking him could cost us top 4, not the other way around.
Or win Europa League?
Sorry, my post seems to have confused a few. What I meant was that he has to achieve 4 at worst not that we can't finish below.
Ancelotti would be okay. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about him to be honest. Pep is a different matter. I think he's the type of change this club desperately need.
If he was to go tomorrow who would we get?
The only manager currently available of note is Ancelotti, he's already said he doesn't want to start a job mid-season.
What I do know is we're fvcked under the current system, we won't finish top four under Van Gaal.
The only manager currently available of note is Ancelotti, he's already said he doesn't want to start a job mid-season.
What I do know is we're fvcked under the current system, we won't finish top four under Van Gaal.
Sound out pep, sack van Gaal regardless, and if Pep can come in the summer, arrange a short-term manager for 6 months. If pep won't take it, get in Ancelotti.
think moyes went three without a win, iirc.
i've supported van gaal but i'm running out of patience with it. there's no denying the improvement in defence, but we're completely lacking in imagination, pace and flair and his subs are f**king bewildering.
the injuries are none of his own doing, but even with a full side out we're struggling to create anything and he's not getting the best from any player, smalling aside.
don't think sacking him now is a great option as i'm still relatively confident of 4th (which is a f**king travesty considering how poor/open the league is this year), but he should be shipped out in the summer if there's a better option.
So would I but would Pep want to pick a team not in the champions league?
4th looks incredibly hard at the moment. 4 wins in our last 14 FFS. Sack him now. In 5 minutes, I say.
Sack him. Ancelotti in.
I think there was about 148 votes for him to go earlier, that's definitely changed.
I am sick of hearing about how close we are to the top and that should by him credit.
Let's look at this in the light of day shall we.
All the other big clubs are also having pretty poor seasons with there managers also facing the sack (apart from Arsene because Arsenal gave up on trophies years ago).
By Monday it will be Leicester fecking City who could be 6 points ahead of us, they are having a good season yes. But it says a lot more about the top clubs than anything else.
We have been completely humbled in Europe. For me this completely makes the scramble for fourth last season pointless. I don't get paid by the club so the moneyside of things doesn't bother me.
Speaking of money, we Spunked loads of that in the summer and still appear worse overall, that's some going. Chica has scored a hat trick today and 3 more goals than our team as a whole since he left us. LVG thought he wasn't worth a chance.
I'm on a role, following on players and chances... Nick Powell, a player who had seemingly been cast aside is now coming on in consecutive games, arguably in both games for our most likely scorer\creator at that moment.
Now I know we are in the midst of an injury crisis (which raises questions on the training again!) But we've spent 250m in 18 months! We have let players go without replacing them, those who have been replaced have been so with inexperienced kids who can't be expected to be world beaters overnight.
As you can tell I am done with LVG. His rigid style and reluctance to adapt stagnating us in mediocrity, and with only a 3 year stint planned I don't see the point is continuing this experiment. It's obvious whoever comes in will do things vastly different so we May's well move on that now.
Ancelloti is available and a manager I think would match the ambition and styles of the club. Otherwise give it to Giggs until the end of the season and get Pep.
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