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LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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It's pep time.
Anyone see Ed towards the end of the game?
Looked proper angry.
Looked proper angry.
I don't think there's any way Van Gaal gets fired at this point. Given the injuries and the fact that we're still fighting for a Champions League spot, I suspect the club will opt for stability in the short term. If this continues, though, there's no doubt he'll be gone in the summer.
Personally, I can't wait to see the back of him. He's sucking the soul and identity out of the club. I'd love to see Giggs for half a season. If he knocks it out of the park, then maybe you consider him on a longer term contract. If not, then lock up either Pep or Carlo (and let Giggs gain experience as a manager elsewhere).
Personally, I can't wait to see the back of him. He's sucking the soul and identity out of the club. I'd love to see Giggs for half a season. If he knocks it out of the park, then maybe you consider him on a longer term contract. If not, then lock up either Pep or Carlo (and let Giggs gain experience as a manager elsewhere).
he has no passion as a manager. His discussions with Giggs are the most pointless ever. I understand his need to take notes but what good is it in the last 10 minutes, show some emotion, motivate the players. He is just enjoying a well paid retirement and his expressions and actions don't convey anything to suggest he gives a $hit about us. His substitutes are almost like a random draw from the hat. Substitutions of Powell and Jones (in dying minutes) were almost like a Joke. Moyes, even with all his faults, had at leads some logic to his actions.
people did say that last season too, and were wrong, and earlier in this season, and were wrong, but in fairness we didn't have a very extreme injury crisis on either of those occasions
What am I gambling on exactly? Him being sacked? You really thing he will see out his contract here? Take the blinkers off. Also, learn how to punctuate.
I'm fairly confident he will get us top four, I'd be less so with Giggs.
However, I'm gentirely concerned about the damage happening behind the scenes in terms of confidence. The players look lost.
At this stage I might take finishing outside of top 4 with a team who aren't hating every second of being at the club - because that's how they're playing.
However, I'm gentirely concerned about the damage happening behind the scenes in terms of confidence. The players look lost.
At this stage I might take finishing outside of top 4 with a team who aren't hating every second of being at the club - because that's how they're playing.
I don't claim to be an armchair genius. I don't claim to know as much about football as LvG. I don't claim his CV isn't, on paper, very impressive.
But everything I've seen from him here, and read about his tenures at Bayern and Barca, further convinces me that he is vastly overrated and in many ways, is an absolute idiot.
It's not even for footballing reasons that I think he's an idiot (although they don't help, here's to you, Nick Powell), it's the way he talks in interviews, he'll say one thing and then do another, he constantly contradicts himself. He constantly makes bizarre statements. Things like that tend to make you a bit of an idiot.
If someone went into a job interview with you and acted like an idiot, but they had a really good CV, would you then not think they were an idiot even though they were being one?
He looked like he was simmering.
The only difference between LVG's reign and Moyes reign is that when Moyes was around, Liverpool City and Chelsea were exceptional. Only thing saving LVG is the fact those three have declined.
I can genuinely see him being sacked because you can only ride your luck for so long, the fact we're still in the top 4 is a miracle, that will probably change tomorrow and as the weeks go on our fixture list isn't too kind and things will inevitably shape up and I'm not so sure our board will sit back and watch us slide down the table away from the top 4.
I can genuinely see him being sacked because you can only ride your luck for so long, the fact we're still in the top 4 is a miracle, that will probably change tomorrow and as the weeks go on our fixture list isn't too kind and things will inevitably shape up and I'm not so sure our board will sit back and watch us slide down the table away from the top 4.
The thing is, the injuries are almost a smokescreen given our recent form. I mean we've been playing crap all season.
city spent 150m, unlikely we were going to leap frog them by spending nothing until sept 1 and then signing a 19 year old
but winning, at the top of the league, and looking like one decent attacker could win us the title
boring thought beyond question
Wouldn't fire him now. I'd stick with him, get 4th at worst, and replace him in the summer with Pep.
That was pathetic, though I did feel genuinely happy for Bournemouth and their fans, they outplayed us and did it the right way, fast paced attacking football and they played with real heart and determination, great crowd as well. I also feel sorry for a lot of the younger lads, getting thrown in the deep end and being schooled by a Championship level team, should never have even got to this stage. The absolute state of our first 11 and squad right now, fecking hell, Nick Powell now a regular sub this week, how? Just how like? Van Gaal's utterly self-destructive squad management has brought us here and he and only he is responsible. We aren't the first team to ever have an injury crisis, Arsenal, City, Liverpool and Spurs have all had them, a good balanced squad with depth is crucial and LVG just disregarded that fact. I'm done now, though I'd be surprised if he's sacked. The season is still salvageable, such is the poor quality in the league this season, so I hope the board acts sooner or later. Forget the squad management, putrid tactics and now rubbish results and CL exit, the players don't look to be playing for him anymore, sure sign of a man that's lost the dressing room.
Oh yeah. "Stop giving me all this money, please!"
With every game, I'm getting closer and closer to the LVG Out side of things. WE are atrocious to watch and have been all season. But we were getting results early in the season. Now we're not. So while the awful football was hard to take before, football is a results business, and we were doing ok, results wise. But now we're not and it's actually incredibly hard to watch.
It's so hard to watch because the style of football we are playing is so bad. The standard of our actual football is so bad too, in that, we have players on the field who cannot do the basics. And on top of all that, the results are so bad. We have been so bad since Fergie left and there is only so long top players will look at us as a real prospect. Yes, we have the money to tempt anyone, but top players will get top money wherever they go, so we have to stay competitive. Our money will count for feck all if we miss out on Champions League again. Once was an anomaly. Do it twice in three years and top players start to think twice.
Actually we haven't. We were ok at the start then he fecked the team about
An important point. Liverpool with Suarez last season could have meant us losing Top 4 again.
For those who think he should stay. We have 4 wins in our last 14 matches.
Can we stop taking about "x" points off the top like its a good thing?
Nearly half the season done, its not like we have had a disproportionate number of tough fixtures.
We are averaging 1.81 points per game. That is being on course for a 69 point season.
That is very poor. especially for someone who has had plenty of time and money to work with.
Everyone else is shit too. That doesnt mean Van Gaal is doing a better job.
16 games in and we are a mere 3 points better off than Crystal Palace. 4 better than the newly promoted Watford. 3 behind Leicester.
He has been far from impressive. The football and the results have been far from impressive.
There is very little positive about his time at United so far.
Nearly half the season done, its not like we have had a disproportionate number of tough fixtures.
We are averaging 1.81 points per game. That is being on course for a 69 point season.
That is very poor. especially for someone who has had plenty of time and money to work with.
Everyone else is shit too. That doesnt mean Van Gaal is doing a better job.
16 games in and we are a mere 3 points better off than Crystal Palace. 4 better than the newly promoted Watford. 3 behind Leicester.
He has been far from impressive. The football and the results have been far from impressive.
There is very little positive about his time at United so far.
Possibly because his job could be on the line also.
Good, he's gonna fly out anyday now then.
Didn't Fergie say he wanted Pep? Would he come back in for 6 months if it meant we could get Pep in the summer?
has he actually fecked an eventual new manager for the season as well? As we are fecking trailing Leicester and have met all the good times at home.
A performance where the manager has lost team looks like that. Seen it exactly the same with Liverpool under Rodgers and Dalglish, Chelsea under AVB and now Mourinho, Real under Mourinho, us under Moyes. I wasn't in the LVG out crowd before but the last month of performances has been ugly and getting worse, not sure there's any other option now
yeah bet on him not seeing out his contract, even at 1-20 on put the mortgage on it and make a few k ! it's only a matter of time !
Can't wait for another lecture on our unreasonable expectations.
Feels like a season, anyway. I've stopped rating players' performances. Just too pissed off after every game to bother any more. I respect what he's done, but we've stagnated now.
Changed my vote from evaluate to sack him now. I mean, for feck sake we are actually regressing lately. There's been enough fecking excuses made for the man.
Absolutely baffled at some of the things he does. What the feck was the point of bringing Powell on and playing as the CF pushing Martial out to the right? Don't think he got a meaningful touch on the ball the entire game. Absolutely ridiculous and reeks of making an unexpected change for the heck of it. Fellaini was making a right nuisance of himself in their box so we went ahead and solved their problem for then. Really really shit. Why the feck is young not playing at all? Why not being him on in place of CBJ?
Absolutely. We're not genuine title contenders. This is the point in the season where, given the schedule, we need to be amassing points. It just isn't happening. We'll be fighting for fourth at best.
I don't know how anyone would be confident we will get 4th looking at United over the last month or so. I'm not saying we won't. But it's hard to be confident.
looks very much like he has lost the dressing room. time he left.
I changed my vote to sack him now.
I changed my vote to sack him now.
You're deluded pal.
Really? What fecking logic did Moyes have? he was a lucky manager that kept a mid table club, mid table- the we hired him, Can you explain what exactly his logic was?
Must be thinking what has he done to deserve a fraud and a crazy old fart as the two managers during his reign as CEO ao far.
this was supposed to be the period where we kicked on and got a buffer of points for the hard games to come. he has to go.
yes we would certainly have to improve in the second half of the season for him to keep his job.
he almost always has done that, but it doesn't mean it's guaranteed, lets wait and see (if we get the chance)
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