You are onto something there, I agree they are clearly afraid of bad press. But is it possible that an 'exiled' Giggsy could kick up more bad press than we ever imagined? Could he reveal the antics of the entire squad or top-brass and really damage the club? What I'm getting at is the board seem to be threatened by Giggs and I'd love to know why...
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You are onto something there, I agree they are clearly afraid of bad press. But is it possible that an 'exiled' Giggsy could kick up more bad press than we ever imagined? Could he reveal the antics of the entire squad or top-brass and really damage the club? What I'm getting at is the board seem to be threatened by Giggs and I'd love to know why...
I agree it is not right but as I say Giggs clearly has some serious influence on our board and I'd love to know why.
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He's not exactly communicative at the best of times, mate, and (in theory) him giving out might make his future employers wary of appointing him.
Further, the irony might be exactly this: despite many fans not actually wanting Ryan as manager, the board fears that not making him manager might upset the fans. 
They live in a bubble.
They live in a bubble.What annoys me the most is how he just sits lifeless on the bench when he watches this awful football we play. I know that should not really affect me but it does!
Further, the irony might be exactly this: despite many fans not actually wanting Ryan as manager, the board fears that not making him manager might upset the fans.
That would be ironic. I dunno there is something fishy about the hold Giggsy has, maybe he has Eds gimp costume hidden somewhere and won't give it back til he gets the job.
He should've started by managing the club he part owns.
On the plus side it's a very nice day today.
It's actually not, it's actually fecking shite but anything is better than watching us play. It could be raining literal cats and dogs and giant exploding crocodiles that explode when the hit the ground and launch teeth shrapnel 50 feet in all directions and I would still say that it's pleasant in comparison to watching Lingard run ten yards and then pass the ball sideways, or whatever is the "highlight" of the next match.
It's actually not, it's actually fecking shite but anything is better than watching us play. It could be raining literal cats and dogs and giant exploding crocodiles that explode when the hit the ground and launch teeth shrapnel 50 feet in all directions and I would still say that it's pleasant in comparison to watching Lingard run ten yards and then pass the ball sideways, or whatever is the "highlight" of the next match.
Watching this and hearing the commentator say "Man United look like scoring every time they have the ball" really brings home how far we've regressed under Moyes and LVG
Watching this and hearing the commentator say "Man United look like scoring every time they have the ball" really brings home how far we've regressed under Moyes and LVG
We have regressed under Moyes and LvG, but our board seems to be fine with that.
Yeah I appreciate that.
I don't think they fear it at all, I think they have acknowledged it as a possibility and a hack has used that to pull a story out if his arse. "fear" makes a better story than "acknowledge as a possibility".
Imagine we lose against Stoke next week or have yet another piss poor game... Old Trafford will be nothing but a sea of boos.
Actually @Rory 7 to be fair I think they will be sorry to see him leave if he does go as he has been a loyal servant to the club, the fans love him and he feeds the myth about the "specialness" of the club, which I'm sure Woodward dishes out to sponsors liberally and they lap up. If there's any truth in the notion that Woodward saw him as a future manager in the making, his departure will also spell an end to that fantasy. So it'd be another nail in the coffin of his carefully planned strategy for our future. But at the end of the day, as The Godfather would say, it's business, not personal. If he leaves we'll get over it soon enough.
Also according to M.E.N. he is going to put the kids in the team. I think he will find we already have quite a few kids in the side and it has been one of the reasons we are in this mess. He cannot get the senior players to play, so put the kids in hoping the crowd won't boo as loud as they are just kids. The senior players have seen him for the fraud he is so pick young kids. So will that mean McNair in all the time. Lingard, who he thinks has been great. Januzaj who has talent, but seems to forget he is playing with 10 other players. Pereira who is the next best thing but has shown not a lot when played. He is grasping at straws.
It's best just to accept it mate. There is nothing we can do.
I think if we lose against Stoke, or draw 0-0, things might actually get ugly... I mean, the boo's at the end of the Southampton game were loud, but yeah, Stoke could be a whole new level.
He'll probably fluke a 1-0 win because of this... we always manages to pull a result out of our arse just as things look like turning ugly.
TL;DR: Should Giggs wait to become United manager or go manage elsewhere.
I can't believe Mitten gets paid for this stuff.
Seems Andy Mitten comes out every other day with pieces on United and in particular Giggs.
Yep. The quality of his articles has coincided with the quality of the football.
What the feck is that Mitten article? Jesus
Mitten 
He's rehashing the same 3 stories over and over. He just writes them differently. Christ, his ass must be jealous of his mouth by now.
It really couldn't get much worse than Southampton. He isn't going anywhere regardless of any result unfortunately.
Not sure if mentioned, but Mitten said something interesting for once yesterday (if it's true of course).
Scared about losing Giggs? Christ, The circus gets worse and worse.
Probably some of the board worrying how United will change once he's gone. Shame, but they need to move on. The club will be around long after them, they need to make decisions for the future, now for how they want to see the club ran.
Of late it's looked like a supposedly responsible adult watching a child struggle in quicksand. Struggling to think of another manager/employee of any organization on the planet who literally does nothing during the most intense period of their work activities. Not buying that "managers can't do anything once players cross that white line" nonsense.
I think it's a good article for giving the fans Giggs' perspective, it echoes a post I made somewhere recently. People are going way overboard with their criticism for Giggs.
At the end of the day, the guy is probably the most loyal man in football right now and he loves the club, nobody can begrudge him from wanting the job. Especially when he has people like SAF telling him that he can do it and the club/current manager making noises about him being the succession plan. Let's face it, you'd be insane to walk away from that.
Anybody that has a problem with it or him because of this is talking out of their backside. Aim your frustration at the club if they do hire him, because he shouldn't turn the opportunity down. I doubt anyone on here would if they were in his shoes.
At the end of the day, the guy is probably the most loyal man in football right now and he loves the club, nobody can begrudge him from wanting the job. Especially when he has people like SAF telling him that he can do it and the club/current manager making noises about him being the succession plan. Let's face it, you'd be insane to walk away from that.
Anybody that has a problem with it or him because of this is talking out of their backside. Aim your frustration at the club if they do hire him, because he shouldn't turn the opportunity down. I doubt anyone on here would if they were in his shoes.
The club now need a seriously great manager to return to the football playing elite of Europe. What reasons do you have for thinking Giggs could be this manager?
There's so much wrong with what that journo is saying about Van Gaal. Talking about pressure bringing the best out of him, even though he's tried walking away from a good few jobs and has had to be convinced not to.
The idea of the criticism making him stick to his guns is insane, and quite scary as a supporter. Van Gaal just isn't wired up right. This isn't news to me though, I knew he was a sandwich short of a picnic before he stepped foot in the door.
Well I mean there could be chants / booing during the game / Chelsea style A4 banners...
I don't know if he will be or he won't be. Nobody does, though those that have worked closely to him think he will. But that's by the by.
My point is, from Giggs' perspective, there's no way he should give up on his hopes of managing United. Giggs turning down United would be like Guardiola turning down Barcelona in the beginning. His record says he has no right to manage there, but he probably thinks he has the right stuff to be a success there. You can't begrudge anyone from believing in themselves. It's down to the club and those that know him best if they appoint him when they shouldn't.
If Giggs was coaching the U-21 side he would have more right to the job. Unfortunately he is part of the coaching staff who are coaching the first team very badly.
Probably not. Then a manager who is blinded by his own ego even when things are going so obviously wrong shouldn't be our manager.
Vetoed a player? He's Bayern Munich'd us without winning a tittle.
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