I've not no sympathy for LVG. He chose to have such a small squad and now he can't use injuries as an excuse.
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I wouldn't say that I have seen many individual miracles this season. I have, however, seen a team grinding out results, for the most part. Sure, Europe was a failure. Sure, the league is poor overall. Sure, the football is largely un-attractive. I even agree that he's not close to pulling up trees as our manager. My point was simply in reference to what I highlighted. The £200m has really not been wasted, as many keep banging on about.
I keep going back to it, but it's absolutely the case that he was brought in by the board to fulfill a task - regain CL football, build a team and win something, if possible. He's doing it.
I wonder if you even know what you're trying to say. Pretend for a minute that you aren't in love with Van Gaal and then come to your opinions organically. That way you may not trip over the shite you spout so often.
Where he also scored goals.
In fairness, I actually think he IS a coach. As a game manager, however, he has utterly failed to impress with us.
For me this is mainly about what Louis' approach is supposed to be, according to some of his supporters: Pragmatism. In those terms, purely, he will do as long as he keeps us there or thereabouts in the league, and continues to add good players to the squad. And, presumably, keeps teaching basic football truths to the players in training.
If we have to suffer through several seasons of dreary football in order for us to assemble a great team, ready to be unleashed by the next guy - so be it and fair enough. I'm not impatient as such.
But the praise LVG gets from an increasingly insufferable subset of zealots for doing this job, is...irritating. A truly great manager doesn't have to sacrifice all semblance of style at the altar of pragmatism. That is the bottom line. And - I will repeat yet again - THAT is the main reason why United fans have now turned on him in a big way. Not results (which are acceptable, all things said and done), but style. I struggle to see how this can be plausibly interpreted as "entitlement" or "haha, it turns out our fans are just as plastic and fickle as anyone else", which is the main take of a certain set of posters on here, who come across as nauseatingly self righteous.
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If he loses today he's got to go. We can actually win this league.
If this Bournemouth score stays the same he is going to be under serious pressure. A big 30 minutes coming up.
But...but...he's not on the pitch so it's not his fault!
Enough with the excuses. He's got to go now if we want to salvage our season.
Enough with the excuses. He's got to go now if we want to salvage our season.
Maybe he doesn't work 
It's all about results. That is why and will be the reason we turn.
Still 30 minutes to play, we look so weak at the back, just like a Wolfsburg.
Still feel like we can still score, but it looks like they can score too
Still feel like we can still score, but it looks like they can score too
Never seen a manager always sat on the bench
Is anyone actually happy with what he has done? Don't see how giving him another year will change anything. We look like a pub team.
It's almost as if we have no first team defended on
Every chance he has lost the dressing room and when that happens there is only one option.
Ah come on, thats very unfair.....on pub teams.
Failing to beat Leceistor, West Ham and Bournmouth would be an awful sequence of results.
The embarrassing thing about all of this is that since we bought him here, he has spent nearly half a billion pounds on players and we currently do not look like a top class team. Most competent manager would only need half of that to make an effective, productive team.
Our recent results have just been inexcusable. Indefensible garbage. Pure shite.
Just feels like we're going backwards at the moment.
Just feels like we're going backwards at the moment.
It's almost like our squad is too thin.
He is destroying us.
Its been clear for a long time that he has lost the dressing room.
Could he use the 'Find my dressing room' app on his iPhone?
I've had enough, this is as bad as Moyes.
An app? He's probably doing a wordsearch on his notepad instead.
4 full backs and 3 center backs injured. Any team would struggle.
Was it £2.7m to assemble the Bournemouth squad? Still we've moved on from, 'it's a process' to 'it's not easy'.
Get him out.
Get him out.
You don't get it do you, we new the vast majority of the players that are currently out are injury prone!! Jesus!
I think he will go. Our results in the last 10 games are embarrassing for any top team.
He needs to update his Philosophy app first.
I'm english, grew up in Holland, played football there in the 80s and early 90s and followed it since. honestly thought he would be great to sort out the squad, the football we played etc when he joined and have been defending him since.
not anymore after yesterday when he told us to get used to times have changed etc. Any coach at the top at Real / Barca / Bayern (and i think we are in that category, not at the moment though) who would say that would not last long. I want him out.
My dream scenario - Somehow Fergie comes back with Butt as Assisstant Manager for the next 5 months (my preference as giggs should go to Swansea as he's just not ready for this United challenge IMO) and we get Guardiola over the summer
Either way, Louie out now chants as other top teams wouldn't accept what's happening or this from the manager and time we stop being the fans we were under fergie and let LVG and the board it's time Louie goes.
And this is from a big Louie fan from the past
not anymore after yesterday when he told us to get used to times have changed etc. Any coach at the top at Real / Barca / Bayern (and i think we are in that category, not at the moment though) who would say that would not last long. I want him out.
My dream scenario - Somehow Fergie comes back with Butt as Assisstant Manager for the next 5 months (my preference as giggs should go to Swansea as he's just not ready for this United challenge IMO) and we get Guardiola over the summer
Either way, Louie out now chants as other top teams wouldn't accept what's happening or this from the manager and time we stop being the fans we were under fergie and let LVG and the board it's time Louie goes.
And this is from a big Louie fan from the past
It's not a good sign when the team looks so much worse after the HT break.
We've looked absolutely lost since HT.
We've looked absolutely lost since HT.
Jackson is having a mare.
Our second string should be well able to cope against a newly promoted team. There are more than enough experienced players on the pitch anyway. The problem is sitting on our bench.
What has he actually done? Bar turn us to utter dross.
Sorry this is worse than Moyes
We won't finish in the top4 with him as a manager this season.
Why do people even back him? Name one reason except that there is no one to replace him because I can't find a single reason to back him.
Why do people even back him? Name one reason except that there is no one to replace him because I can't find a single reason to back him.
Think I'd rather giggs see out the season again and then get pep in summer. Injuries or not this is getting worse now.
Calm down lads, if we had Neymar/Muller we would have managed a draw by now!
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