he needs to go now!!
else we will pay the consequences just like Swansea will pay for keeping Curtis.
else we will pay the consequences just like Swansea will pay for keeping Curtis.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Playing a winger and midfielder in defense during his 2nd season here should be enough to complain How can you lead such a huge football club and not even secure the squad from obvious injury streaks ? The board doesn't even restrict his choice or a budget in any case.
This football club is simply badly managed.
This football club is simply badly managed.
Oh, yeah, I totally agree about the losing the lead. To lose a 2 goal lead is bad enough. Then to lose what looks to be a winner is even more ridiculous. Although, we're unlucky with the deflection. I just meant that Newcastle have fought well against the big teams.
We needed a centre back in the summer, tbh. Blind does a decent job generally for somebody who's not a centre back. We sold Evans and loaned out Blackett and brought nobody in to replace them. Instead we put Blind to centre back, wtf?! We basically have Smalling, sick note Jones and young McNair as recognised centre backs. Imagine if De Gea had departed.
If only we'd known that Vidic and Ferdinand weren't going to still be here for the 2015/16 season, we could have got in some proper replacements.
Oh, yeah, I totally agree about the losing the lead. To lose a 2 goal lead is bad enough. Then to lose what looks to be a winner is even more ridiculous. Although, we're unlucky with the deflection. I just meant that Newcastle have fought well against the big teams.
We needed a centre back in the summer, tbh. Blind does a decent job generally for somebody who's not a centre back. We sold Evans and loaned out Blackett and brought nobody in to replace them. Instead we put Blind to centre back, wtf?! We basically have Smalling, sick note Jones and young McNair as recognised centre backs. Imagine if De Gea had departed.
Oh yes Newcastle did well, to play against them like we did today shows how clueless LVG is in the PL.
Our defence is overrated and without DDG we would be relegation fodder.
Season has become an absolute joke
fecking shambles at this point.
Absolutely raging here
Absolutely raging here
At what point are people going to acknowledge that we shouldn't need to score 4 or 5 against this shite Newcastle side to guarantee 3 points against them?
It's amazing how the goalposts keep moving with LvG. One minute people claim that all they want is about entertaining attacking football, and can take bad results, and then when they get the former, it's the results that matter.
Personally I still think that, barring a real turnaround, he'll be lucky to start next season as our manager, as the results haven't been good enough. But he's in a no-win situation at the moment with most of the fans on here, damned if he attacks, damned if he defends.
Personally I still think that, barring a real turnaround, he'll be lucky to start next season as our manager, as the results haven't been good enough. But he's in a no-win situation at the moment with most of the fans on here, damned if he attacks, damned if he defends.
We could concede a goal due to the entire team watching Jurassic World on an iPad in the centre circle and the Cafe would blame LvG for their shit taste in movies.
People only say that when we're playing tumescent football and getting bad results. Which funnily enough, has been going on for the past 6 weeks.
it not "he" it's the team he put together for loads of dosh. so no he can feck off long before the start of next season. because we struggle v everyone from leagues around europe to lower div sides in country. he's shit at his job.
You shouldn't need to score 4 goals to guarantee a win against fecking Newcastle.
2nd season in charge and he still can't get his team to be even remotely positive without looking like a defensive shambles.
or the cafe will support him even as we drop down the league. he's the wrong man in the wrong job. he's not united quality.
Who is the right man?
This is a newcastle side that hasn't scored in 4 games and are sitting 18th in the league...they just put 3 past us.
Yep. If a manager and his coaching staff can't get a team to be somewhat competent at both attacking and defending at the same time then serious questions have to be asked.
He's the manager. It's his job to manage the team and get the best out of his players. He's also the one who signs them and picks them so if they aren't good enough that is still his fault.
Giggs
don't know that but i know he's the wrong one. which is the only important thing isn't it. there is a guy who wins who's available and could do no worse that this mug.
You had me for a while.That wouldn't happen to be the guy who just lost the most comfortable job in world football because he'd dragged the champions into a relegation battle on the pitch and into the gutter off it would it?
Yes he is beacuse he needs to make up his mind, it seems to me his famous philosophy atm is to play this defensive, sideways passing, one or two shots per game stuff, that he is clearly the most comfortable with, yet when he gets heavy critism he lets them play as they did tonight, and like with the Chelsea game it will no doubt relieve the pressure on him no end, and will allow him to revert to his usual ways for few games again.
It's a nonsense pick how you want to play Louis and dam well stick to your guns, if you fall on your sword doing it the so be it.
No, no, we have to stay with the guy who is definitely the wrong one, just in case we bring someone else in who maybe the wrong one too!!
It would be nice if he at least tried the winning bit. For me, personally, I'm more interested in attacking football. Football is supposed to be fun and even though the game was obviously annoying, there were at least moments to enjoy unlike most of the games we've played this season. Whether I'm at the game or watching on TV, I'd rather just be entertained. I've already experienced more success than fans of 99.9% clubs will ever have.
However, if the results were better then the scrutiny would largely subside. It only started when we started drawing every game 0-0 (therefore not winning) and has increased over the last couple of months where we've won 6 out of 20 games. His style of football is so dull that it's only going to be tolerated if he's getting results, especially given the huge amounts of money spent, but he can't get away with shit football and performances allied to poor results. So yes, the situation is literally no-win if he keeps not winning.
Vangle is a vandal from almost any angle.
He mishandles and mangles and puts us all in tangles.
I'd like to adult cuddle with Hoffs from the Bangles.
Hexagons are nice but I prefer small triangles.
As you were.
He mishandles and mangles and puts us all in tangles.
I'd like to adult cuddle with Hoffs from the Bangles.
Hexagons are nice but I prefer small triangles.
As you were.
That wouldn't happen to be the guy who just lost the most comfortable job in world football because he'd dragged the champions into a relegation battle on the pitch and into the gutter off it would it?
why not , he's won something in this century and in this league. short term we'd be better off. LVG is shit and you fecking know it if you don't ah feck it i'm gonna hit ignore it's easier.
So Van Gaal is shit for having his team play dire football and not getting results and the solution is the most negative "big name" manager in football who just got sacked because his team was even worse?
Fellaini isnt a defensive midfielder at all either.
Infact, he's even more suited up top (best position is 10, not 8 either)
Doesnt have any semblance of positioning for that cdm position. Its the same blunder that Moyes made with Fellaini.
'Blaming the players' is a fairly useless exercise unless you propose we dispose of most of this season's squad based on their rubbish performances? If a manager performance is absolutely terrible on a consistent basis why would anybody take him seriously if he came out and said 'the players are all just shite, I'm actually a star and ye're all lucky to have me on board'?
The manager is almost universally regarded as the most important individual for any team, we've seen great managers achieve amazing things with below par teams and we often see great players look utterly rubbish under shite managers, this is why most people are going to point to him for fault over throwing a whole squad of players under the bus just to avoid sacking a manager who has failed by almost every possible metric at this stage of his tenure.
You don't go on this type of run and play like a clueless shambles for almost 18 months without there being something seriously wrong with how the man at the helm is doing things, to act as if people are only reacting to one game is complete nonsense, this has been a continuous run of rubbishness for a long time now.
This.. Struggles with balance between attacking or defending.. We looked amateurish in second half and sadly couldnt control anything in midfield.
It's like people fail to see how utterly wank this Newcastle side are. Two points against them this season is atrocious.
end of sept we were in 1st we are going the wrong way. others think we're ok. someone's wrong
He'll go if it becomes mathematically impossible for us to make top 4. Else, he'll stay. It's time people came to accept this.
I didn't say he was, I agree with you. I was just saying he was the best option available.
Moyes actually bought him with the intention of using him defensively didn't he? Or is my memory letting me down.
Whether people like it or not, Jose Mourinho was/is the one. It was meant to be.
He has no idea how to find any form of balance; look at the Wolfsburg game and tonight. When we try to play any semblance of expansive football, we concede at will. The only other alternative for LvG is to play dour shite, don't score and hope we don't lose. He needs to go.
Seems like a stupid way to run a football club...
Yes but he always claims that's attacking football, he said that again today. He would argue that we are closer to being a winning team that possession way than the way we played today.
We may disagree with him but I think this result has just given him more scope to go down that route.
How can you reconcile a team that has no ability to balance attack and defence, we either attack like headless chickens or park the bus and play keepball for 90 minutes.
That LVG cannot either adapt during the game or develop players costing stratospheric amounts into a team with the capabilities that clubs with far less resources have done successfully and repeatedly is even more damning than if he stuck resiliently to the boring possession football.
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