It just feels as though he is being kept on because of the smallest things. He seemed on the brink before Chelsea and then we play half-decent so he is kept on, then we get 2 wins against crap teams and no doubt some kind of improvement will be sensed because we scored 3 tonight, despite making so many mistakes against a crap team. If we were winning double the amount of games in the last 2 months it would still be a disgrace.
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Dont bother. What we are seeing are the glory hunters get agitated.
Numerous times you saw bits & pieces of football that only the current super teams play. Everybody expects United to be like bayern & barcelona over night
The lack of confidence? How does that work with the players in question? Lingard scored a great goal, what 40 minutes previously, and Fellaini is seemingly guaranteed a shirt despite offering the square root of feck all. What more do they want? Being told how big their dick is by Van Gaal in the showers?
No chance we will sack him before playing Pool. Sunday is his funeral, and it will make the decision more justified by the board.
I guess you're right. It seems better when you look at our attacking play, however now I think about how crap we were defensively I'm not so sure.
BBC has us played 21, 34 points and them played 20, 23 points.
They should have had a penalty too. Could have gone either way really.
Pereira?
Can't believe today's game is blamed on Louis van Gaal.
I think we will win vs Liverpool. He is a big game manager. We looked good vs Chelsea and City this season, beat Liverpool already once and we did well against the top 4 last season as well.
We are not a relegation team. Despite dropping to mid table we are better than fecking Newcastle. Do people actually see thos game as progress?
I do,
We look so vulnerable at times either after scoring or at certain times in plenty of 2nd halves all season
That can't be coincidendense. Something not right there
So what is now? 6 wins in 20?
so dismiss the shit we've watched the 250m spent to play not to lose then when we go for it fall apart at the back. 3 goals scored giving 3 away to them (they score maybe 1 if any) is not good enough.
To play in a team that wins the odd game.
He obviously doesn't view him as a centre mid. Even if he did, Pereira is not a defensive minded player. Newcastle were cutting us open through the centre too easily as it was.
It just isn't working with LvG. Yes, Fellaini and Lingard should both have taken their chances and our defence made some big mistakes, but we need to freshen Things up and the easiest way to do that is sacking LvG.
Nonsense. The team were clearly at sixes and sevens with the new system. Our forwards look clueless when we play slow defensive football, and our defenders look clueless when we play fast attacking football. This is all about the coaching. Van Gaal doesn't know how to do transitions. There are two predictable certainties with United, if we set up to attack, we will meltdown at the back. If we set up to defend, we are completely impotent up front. It happens every single fecking time.
So ultimately when you put players in a position where chances are at a premium, there is so much pressure to score, it breeds mistakes. If you put them in an uncertain environment, such as defensive disarray, that also breeds mistakes.
This performance is reminiscent of the Leicester game lats season.
Van Gaal is a fecking clown.
Come on, this is silly. Newcastle were gifting us chances. They had good chances themselves. It wasn't simply a case of us playing well and missing easy chances.
Then they should try putting some effort in then.
Dont bother. What we are seeing are the glory hunters get agitated.
Numerous times you saw bits & pieces of football that only the current super teams play. Everybody expects United to be like bayern & barcelona over night
no after 2 yrs and 250m i don't want to see middlesboro.
I'd rather a midfielder with an attacking mind than no mind. Fellaini isn't a defensive midfielder. He wasn't at Standard Liege, he wasn't for Everton, he isn't for Belgium, and he isn't for us. His one use is bringing it down on his chest and passing it to someone who can actually play football.
Couldn't hurt. Though I prefer your shower compliment idea.
18th place Newcastle that haven't scored a goal in 4 games put 3 goals past us and could have been even more.
This performance was phatetic
The idea is to start playing more attacking football not to stop defending completley and concede like crazy.
LVG is incapable of playing normal football, it is either the extreme of attacking like a headless chicken and conceding as much more more than you are scoring or it is the apocalypse of zombie football were no goals are scored whatsoever. It is utterly embarrasing for the club how inept our manager really is.
No, we're 11 points clear.
For us, i wanted the goals for us.
Can't believe today's game is blamed on Louis van Gaal.
He is the one who kept players like Fellaini around, when quite clearly he isn't good enough. So, when that player, Felliani, misses a sitter, you have to give some blame to the manager who played him the whole match.
I will give him tonight but had we played with this intent all season we wouldn't be 6th.
Much like last season when he persisted way too long with 3-5-2 and f'd up the winter fixtures, Louis has again taken too long to let the lads off the leash. Everyone can see why he did it, we aren't the best defensively. Still, we weren't defensively the best in 2013 when we were winning 4-3 at Reading.
We have it in this squad not to have lost to the likes of Bournemouth and Norwich, that was shown tonight. Had Louis got the results this club is capable of in December he wouldn't be under pressure now.
Considering we can't seem to defend when we switch to an attacking style.......I think there is a point.Can't believe today's game is blamed on Louis van Gaal.
Expect to see us sitting in 8th place come the weekend.
Yep, 2 in 12 also.
Can't believe today's game is blamed on Louis van Gaal.
How come? The fact that we're unable to attack as a side without looking immensely vulnerable at the back is extremely worrying, and since it's a recurring problem LVG has to take a certain portion of the blame for it.
If you're using the 'it's not like he told them to be shit at XYZ' you could literally use it to defend the manager at every single point of contention or failure because it's the players actually executing the game plan, not the manager (the guy supposedly responsible for the bottom line performance of the team.)
In other words, it's a bullshít cop out masquerading as an 'argument'.
In other words, it's a bullshít cop out masquerading as an 'argument'.
I was annoyed that he hauled Jesse off for missing a chance. If he had been managing us when Andy Cole played for us he wouldn't have been on the pitch for 5 minutes. Strikers do miss chances. The pundits in the MUTV said Wayne Rooney looked flabbergasted when Herrera was taken off.
Can't do much about individual errors, two easy scoring chances and a calamity of a defensive performance from Smalling. Not playing Carrick ahead of Fellaini is criminal if indeed Carrick was fit for the match. He'd have given us additional security in midfield and some height on set pieces.
Newcastle have a relatively decent record against the big teams. They've not been totally demolished except for against City. They've lost narrowly or beaten teams such as Liverpool and Spurs. This was never going to be an easy game if that's what you expected.
Very fair post
Of course nobody is blaming LVG for the sitters tonight but it does not change the fact that under his leadership we are now sat in 6th with something like 6 wins in the last 20 games. That you can blame the manager for.
We clearly don't want Mourinho. Otherwise LVG would have been gone by now. I just wish the club would grow some balls and swallow their pride and just hire him. He is not perfect and may not manage in a way the is aligned to our 'philosophy' but he is a winner and right now that is what we need more than anything.
We clearly don't want Mourinho. Otherwise LVG would have been gone by now. I just wish the club would grow some balls and swallow their pride and just hire him. He is not perfect and may not manage in a way the is aligned to our 'philosophy' but he is a winner and right now that is what we need more than anything.
Lingard, Fellaini missed sitters today. Even Redknapp's granny and I could have scored those. Had they got those in, we would have been out of sight without a Newcastle comeback on the horizon. The fact they didn't score, meant Newcastle always had a chance and that's football!
True, although Lingard's miss was criminally bad. And he's nowhere near as clinical as someone like Cole to justify it. Certainly won't help his confidence though. Herrera coming off was the far worse decision though.
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