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Mourinho's name printed scarfs with United logo being sold near OT. ffs this is embarrassing.
 
Epicuris
Nebuchadnezzar
Chengiz Khan
Tommy Doherty
Josef Stalin
Private Baldrick
Darth Vader.

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If Darth Vader had been involved, we'd have been in a proper relegation scrabble. Our current predicament oozes of a lame Kylo Ren attempt to trip us up, with the result being neither here nor there.
 
Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
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He did, tbh he has had a lot of support from the match going fans.
And I do applaud the match-going fans for that, and I understand turning up for the matches and being served boring football is painful. I watch from the telly and I get annoyed.

I just think that a vicious cycle of negativity has been created, not sure what can be done to stop it.
 
Should be gone after this game, no matter the result. I'm thinking he wasn't sacked after the Stoke game because this game was too close.
 
See you later folks!

I won't be creating a toxic atmosphere at the ground that's only if I'm not asleep 10 minutes into the game.

PS: I'm going with a positive mindset.
 
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Iharth Vader had been involved, we'd have been in a proper relegation scrabble. Our current predicament oozes of a lame Kylo Ren attempt to trip us up, with the result being neither here nor there.

He's a part of the Rebel Alliance. And a traitor. Take him away!

That's what Darthy would say.
 
But they had the same uninspired dull football under Moyes - so why did he not face the same level of toxicity? Seriously, why is that? Is it because he's British?

Seriously?

He walked into one of the toughest job is football with big public endorsement from Sir Alex Ferguson. And even then by Feb, fans had a plane flown over OT wanting him out.

With LVG, we've been crap football for 95% of the time here. People were bound to get tired of it sooner rather than later.
 
I would hope the players under performing on purpose, were giving the club back their wages because their boss is the fans not the manager
 
What would the difference be between a DOF and Sir Alex's role at the club? Until recently Cruyff has had a similar role at Barca for example.
Obviously Giggs has shown something behind the scenes or in his coaching role that has given the board confidence he has the tools to be a success. This forum treating it as the end of the world is a bit much imo.
To be honest, I am not sure what a DOF does so i cannot comment. And also, you are right we don't know what competencies has Giggs displayed behind doors. So as i have said elsewhere in this thread, maybe the solution is to hand Giggs the reins. Us fans just have to be prepared for the consequences, whatever they turn out to be.
 
Great post sultan. Some people seem to want to blame everyone but LVG.
Woodward is to blame as well.
You mean the Woodward that everyone creamed themselves over through getting the like of ADM, Falcao, Schwienie and so on.

The results have been shit, why are fans looking for a single scapegoat.

The results are due to the team and staff getting something wrong, not because one person did not pick a fan favorite, or because we play possession football where the player must think. There are no excuses there are causes, obviously the staff and players haven't worked out what that cause is.

However, certain groups of fans, media and ex-players have created a very uncomfortable atmosphere. I fully expect the OT faithful to give a rousing atmosphere today, historically they have been very good when the chips are down, and would rather be quiet than be negative towards the players.
 
See you later folks!

I won't be creating a toxic atmosphere at the ground that's only if I'm not asleep 10 minutes into the game.

PS: I'm going with a positive mindset.
Don't you dare ask for attacking football in this match. If you do so, the inevitable defeat is on you.
 
And I do applaud the match-going fans for that, and I understand turning up for the matches and being served boring football is painful. I watch from the telly and I get annoyed.

I just think that a vicious cycle of negativity has been created, not sure what can be done to stop it.

You're right, but that whats happens. If we had been playing brilliant football this season, then all of a sudden there were a few poor results, like 3 losses in a row, it wouldn't be as bad as this. Its this bad because this is the frustration of watching (and for the players playing) tumescent, boring football for the past 18 months.

You can't serve up shite football for 18 months and then after that start losing, and at the same time criticise the fans or say there is too much expectation.
He has put himself in this position, because he has been adamant about his philosophy and also adamant about stifling creativity in the team. Basically he has managed the situation poorly.

When you add Hernandez, Januzaj, ADM etc etc to that then well, I would say that the match goings fans have been doing well so far. Its not like he has had the Moyes fly over treatment yet.
 
You mean the Woodward that everyone creamed themselves over through getting the like of ADM, Falcao, Schwienie and so on.

The results have been shit, why are fans looking for a single scapegoat.

The results are due to the team and staff getting something wrong, not because one person did not pick a fan favorite, or because we play possession football where the player must think. There are no excuses there are causes, obviously the staff and players haven't worked out what that cause is.

However, certain groups of fans, media and ex-players have created a very uncomfortable atmosphere. I fully expect the OT faithful to give a rousing atmosphere today, historically they have been very good when the chips are down, and would rather be quiet than be negative towards the players.
Agree. For LVG and the team, this is probably as low as it gets. Couldn't hurt anything to have a rousing atmosphere.
 
You mean the Woodward that everyone creamed themselves over through getting the like of ADM, Falcao, Schwienie and so on.

The results have been shit, why are fans looking for a single scapegoat.

The results are due to the team and staff getting something wrong, not because one person did not pick a fan favorite, or because we play possession football where the player must think. There are no excuses there are causes, obviously the staff and players haven't worked out what that cause is.

However, certain groups of fans, media and ex-players have created a very uncomfortable atmosphere. I fully expect the OT faithful to give a rousing atmosphere today, historically they have been very good when the chips are down, and would rather be quiet than be negative towards the players.
LvG is the head of the playing department, that is the reason why he is being held accountable. Woody went out and got those players into the club, but LvG and his coaching staff cannot seem to manage them properly, or get any kind of performance out of them.
 
That scarf's photo of Mourinho must've been taken from Ceefax.
 
No, you're right. The fans shouting attack is indeed not toxic and I apologise if that is what you gathered from my posts. The booing during the game, the whistling when trying to play a patient game and the booing at HT/FT, all of which I've never experienced from our fans, is the toxic part of it. The attack-chants are more than justified, I just simply dont see how it will benefit the club in any way. It'll only benefit the selfish fan who is more concerned about his own need to jeer the team, rather than support the team when they need it.

Again, I agree that we've not been good enough and that we've been more or less the most boring I've ever seen us. But the way we're going, we're creating our own negative spiral which is extremely hard to stop.
Clearly what we're posting on this forum is not affecting van Gaal, it does however affect the clubs supporters and I'm certain it'll affect the match going fans who is posting on this board. I'm certain that a supportive, and positive set of fans on this board will affect the mood for some of the supporters attenting our games, and might cause a few people to chant and cheer rather than boo us. I might be naive, but that is my opinion on that matter.

I also agree with you at the latter part of your post. We look beaten as soon as things are not going how we hoped for, but that is more or less my point; How do you think us, the fans, could help this situation? By booing and whistling, or by getting behind the club and try to cheer them on? It's not my opinion that the boos are not justified, I simply dont see how any part of the club benefits from it.
But if the fans don't show their disapproval of a situation, how will the management know the fans are not happy?

Booing can hurt but the fans have been pushed to the point where they have had to resort to this. The banner flying during Moyes' time was far worse than anything we have seen so far.
 
Jose scarfs:D Both sets of fans probably singing for him today - he'll be chuffed:drool:
At least the board will know who the fans want to take over I guess..
 
LvG is the head of the playing department, that is the reason why he is being held accountable. Woody went out and got those players into the club, but LvG and his coaching staff cannot seem to manage them properly, or get any kind of performance out of them.
Woody is not a Perez who goes out and buys players and then says deal with it. If he constrained the manager, by not giving funds ...etc, then great. But why people feel the need to attack him beats me. LVG may be accountable, and his head will roll, if he doesn't meet the boards targets. However, players are part of the puzzle too, and it is very lazy to imply all their individual performances are down to LVG. Giggs and other staff.
 
Let's make a list of people to blame...

Scholes
Neville
Rio
Sharpe
Kanchelskis
Parker
Canteen lady
Cathy Ferguson
Shaun Custis

cathy can f**k off tbf. "ooh i'm lonely, quit your job". f**k off, get a dog.
 
Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
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I can only assume they were bought in anticipation he'd be in the job now, the seller is no doubt taking a chance on selling them to regain a bit of cash back.
 
But if the fans don't show their disapproval of a situation, how will the management know the fans are not happy?

Booing can hurt but the fans have been pushed to the point where they have had to resort to this. The banner flying during Moyes' time was far worse than anything we have seen so far.
Actually, I think the fans can do better in their disapproval and simply not turn up for games. I am NOT advocating that, of course.

But I am thinking, if I were the Glazers. Very likely I'd be reading the papers (if at all), seeing all these snide media comments and supposed fan unrest and I could dismiss half of this negativity. Why? Because we all know sport is emotional. It's probably worse than the stock markets. Glazers have probably seen all sorts of "fan issues" with the Buccaneers.

So the Glazers could (i say could, it is merely a guess - I don't read minds) be thinking this is just a phase. They will then look at commercial revenue figures, attendance figures, merchandise sales which I am thinking aren't seeing much of a decline, and they conclude things are not as bad as the media makes out.
 
'Van Gaal Out' banners appearing at the ground already apparently.

sigh, Woodward really should have seen this coming, sad to put the man through this
 
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