The Man Himself
asked for a tagline change and all I got was this.
- Joined
- Feb 12, 2013
- Messages
- 22,406
Mourinho's name printed scarfs with United logo being sold near OT. ffs this is embarrassing.
Epicuris
Nebuchadnezzar
Chengiz Khan
Tommy Doherty
Josef Stalin
Private Baldrick
Darth Vader.
And I do applaud the match-going fans for that, and I understand turning up for the matches and being served boring football is painful. I watch from the telly and I get annoyed.He did, tbh he has had a lot of support from the match going fans.
Iharth Vader had been involved, we'd have been in a proper relegation scrabble. Our current predicament oozes of a lame Kylo Ren attempt to trip us up, with the result being neither here nor there.
Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
But they had the same uninspired dull football under Moyes - so why did he not face the same level of toxicity? Seriously, why is that? Is it because he's British?
To be honest, I am not sure what a DOF does so i cannot comment. And also, you are right we don't know what competencies has Giggs displayed behind doors. So as i have said elsewhere in this thread, maybe the solution is to hand Giggs the reins. Us fans just have to be prepared for the consequences, whatever they turn out to be.What would the difference be between a DOF and Sir Alex's role at the club? Until recently Cruyff has had a similar role at Barca for example.
Obviously Giggs has shown something behind the scenes or in his coaching role that has given the board confidence he has the tools to be a success. This forum treating it as the end of the world is a bit much imo.
You mean the Woodward that everyone creamed themselves over through getting the like of ADM, Falcao, Schwienie and so on.Great post sultan. Some people seem to want to blame everyone but LVG.
Woodward is to blame as well.
That is absolutely shocking. Who actually thought a half and half scarf was a good idea?Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
I have, mate. It bores me to tears. Especially when I stay up to 1am to catch the games (I am over in asia).Last season is gone. Haven't you been watching this season?
That is absolutely shocking. Who actually thought a half and half scarf was a good idea?
Despicable.Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
Don't you dare ask for attacking football in this match. If you do so, the inevitable defeat is on you.See you later folks!
I won't be creating a toxic atmosphere at the ground that's only if I'm not asleep 10 minutes into the game.
PS: I'm going with a positive mindset.
And I do applaud the match-going fans for that, and I understand turning up for the matches and being served boring football is painful. I watch from the telly and I get annoyed.
I just think that a vicious cycle of negativity has been created, not sure what can be done to stop it.
@Twigginater would love to have these two scarfs.Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
Despicable.
Agree. For LVG and the team, this is probably as low as it gets. Couldn't hurt anything to have a rousing atmosphere.You mean the Woodward that everyone creamed themselves over through getting the like of ADM, Falcao, Schwienie and so on.
The results have been shit, why are fans looking for a single scapegoat.
The results are due to the team and staff getting something wrong, not because one person did not pick a fan favorite, or because we play possession football where the player must think. There are no excuses there are causes, obviously the staff and players haven't worked out what that cause is.
However, certain groups of fans, media and ex-players have created a very uncomfortable atmosphere. I fully expect the OT faithful to give a rousing atmosphere today, historically they have been very good when the chips are down, and would rather be quiet than be negative towards the players.
LvG is the head of the playing department, that is the reason why he is being held accountable. Woody went out and got those players into the club, but LvG and his coaching staff cannot seem to manage them properly, or get any kind of performance out of them.You mean the Woodward that everyone creamed themselves over through getting the like of ADM, Falcao, Schwienie and so on.
The results have been shit, why are fans looking for a single scapegoat.
The results are due to the team and staff getting something wrong, not because one person did not pick a fan favorite, or because we play possession football where the player must think. There are no excuses there are causes, obviously the staff and players haven't worked out what that cause is.
However, certain groups of fans, media and ex-players have created a very uncomfortable atmosphere. I fully expect the OT faithful to give a rousing atmosphere today, historically they have been very good when the chips are down, and would rather be quiet than be negative towards the players.
Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
But if the fans don't show their disapproval of a situation, how will the management know the fans are not happy?No, you're right. The fans shouting attack is indeed not toxic and I apologise if that is what you gathered from my posts. The booing during the game, the whistling when trying to play a patient game and the booing at HT/FT, all of which I've never experienced from our fans, is the toxic part of it. The attack-chants are more than justified, I just simply dont see how it will benefit the club in any way. It'll only benefit the selfish fan who is more concerned about his own need to jeer the team, rather than support the team when they need it.
Again, I agree that we've not been good enough and that we've been more or less the most boring I've ever seen us. But the way we're going, we're creating our own negative spiral which is extremely hard to stop.
Clearly what we're posting on this forum is not affecting van Gaal, it does however affect the clubs supporters and I'm certain it'll affect the match going fans who is posting on this board. I'm certain that a supportive, and positive set of fans on this board will affect the mood for some of the supporters attenting our games, and might cause a few people to chant and cheer rather than boo us. I might be naive, but that is my opinion on that matter.
I also agree with you at the latter part of your post. We look beaten as soon as things are not going how we hoped for, but that is more or less my point; How do you think us, the fans, could help this situation? By booing and whistling, or by getting behind the club and try to cheer them on? It's not my opinion that the boos are not justified, I simply dont see how any part of the club benefits from it.
Woody is not a Perez who goes out and buys players and then says deal with it. If he constrained the manager, by not giving funds ...etc, then great. But why people feel the need to attack him beats me. LVG may be accountable, and his head will roll, if he doesn't meet the boards targets. However, players are part of the puzzle too, and it is very lazy to imply all their individual performances are down to LVG. Giggs and other staff.LvG is the head of the playing department, that is the reason why he is being held accountable. Woody went out and got those players into the club, but LvG and his coaching staff cannot seem to manage them properly, or get any kind of performance out of them.
I'm sorry mate , Rooney's decline was so obvious to me, but couldnt know that he's become so bad.I absolutely hate you, I was/am a Rooney fanboy and I couldn't stand your posts against him. But you were probably right from the beginning.
YesJose scarves say UNTED at the bottom?
Let's make a list of people to blame...
Scholes
Neville
Rio
Sharpe
Kanchelskis
Parker
Canteen lady
Cathy Ferguson
Shaun Custis
Well this is a bit rotten. Who'd sell them, let alone buy them?
Actually, I think the fans can do better in their disapproval and simply not turn up for games. I am NOT advocating that, of course.But if the fans don't show their disapproval of a situation, how will the management know the fans are not happy?
Booing can hurt but the fans have been pushed to the point where they have had to resort to this. The banner flying during Moyes' time was far worse than anything we have seen so far.
Should be gone after this game, no matter the result. I'm thinking he wasn't sacked after the Stoke game because this game was too close.
'Van Gaal Out' banners appearing at the ground already apparently.
cathy can f**k off tbf. "ooh i'm lonely, quit your job". f**k off, get a dog.
It was the passing of her sis as well Greg! Behave!cathy can f**k off tbf. "ooh i'm lonely, quit your job". f**k off, get a dog.