There was absolutely no point in keeping him for the Stoke match. He's lost the players, and even if he got a result does that suddenly make 18 months of mediocrity acceptable? He has to be gone on Monday.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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Yeah, it was a bit ambiguous. I just get the feeling that Moyes came in and was so much feeling like he'd just committed the biggest daylight robbery in the history of the game that he wouldn't dream of telling the board what was needed (bar some Everton players). And then Louis comes in and he's quite flattered to be given the job in all honesty and is here short term from the getgo.
I want a manager who is 100% invested into the club and knows he's big enough for it and has standards above those of the board.
There is no way we will hand Giggs the job if LVG gets the sack. Only way he was getting the job was if LVG's stint was successful at United and he could be looked as someone to continue the good work.
I hate the idea of sacking Fergie, tbh. He did so much for us.
Ideally, Woodward will realise that he needs a DoF and start to listening to him more. The whole "continuity" thing from the club is getting annoying.
What happens if we beat Chelsea? Keep him on? There's no point dragging our heels over this.
Paddy: ''We have to beat Chelsea now.''
Sounds familiar,
We have to beat Wolfsburg.
We have to beat Bournemouth.
We have to beat Norwich.
We have to beat Stoke.
Sorry brewlio/mods, trying not to moan
Depends how we play. If we suddenly look like a competent team then he deserves another game at least.
Well exactly, I guess maybe the club don't want a stop gap situation to sort out in 2 days. Maybe they'd rathdr just go straight from the old staff to the new.
Yeah, apparently we didn't need to win against Chelsea before the Stoke game.
Just take the old horse out to the back and put it out of its misery, that is what it feels like with VG, its just dragging on and on now unless VG saves face and resigns himself
Good grief. Choccy left when? February wasn't it? Who's in charge of recruitment? When Van Gaal arrived, he said that his immediate priority was the first team and that he would not be concentrating on the academy. That was in 2014. You'd think Fergie and Bobby would be creating merry hell about the lack of a replacement for Choccy. Once again, it smacks of poor planning.
So utterly disappointed with him. I was firmly behind his back before this farce began but once again we are back inside the deepest dark. The penny has finally dropped. He's got to go.
If he isn't the right man if we lose 'one more game' then he isn't the right man now.
He has to go, preferably by Monday.
He has to go, preferably by Monday.
They've split the job.
Board wanted it changed so that there's two at the helm of the academy splitting the job but not had any luck finding people for that
Surely there's no way he'll still be in charge against Chelsea? I mean things have been laughable for a few weeks now, but this would be the icing on the cake.
Yeah, course I do. Its Christmas after all.
No no no. It's already too far for that. So what if we beat an misfiring Chelsea, we then get beat by the next side and we've lost another week? Time is up.
Really, I'd love to be as positive as you about him but I just don't see why he should get another game.
Unreal. A club like ours with a long history of academy development hasn't got a leader in there? It's no wonder the bitters are making strides.
I don't think the players even care for him. Look at the way they played, no fight.
I wonder what the Sun will conjure up for tomorrows Utd headline ?
How bad does it have to get before he's sacked? Longer we leave it worse it will get.
They look like they are slowly entering into depression, these players don't believe in themselves anymore.
Spoken lika true Sith. Or something.
Ed Woodward?
There are too many people at the club who think we have a God-given right to be at the top of everything and don't have to work for it. Complacency is what created this whole rot.
We won't sack him. Would have done it after Norwich. Woodward can't accept that he cocked up again in appointing Van Gaal.
I think the papers will go all out. After that presser, he had to win.
I agree. It's not all the managers fault, but the coaching staff should have them fired up. I think we're in a similar situation to Chelsea tbh, the players gave up on the manager.
There are a fair few fans who hold the same belief. We're going to have to slog and work hard to get back to the top. No easy fixes here I'm afraid, and that includes bringing a new manager in.
I would agree with that if anyone else was available, unless klopp was there for the taken
He has no go at some point if we keep spiralling down the table at such an alarming pace. The players have given up fighting for him. His tactics are zapping each and every one of their individual flair and everything that would make you want to play Football.
I agree with that. They have lost all belief in their own ability. It is awful. Except Memphis who seems to have a confidence that belies his ability.
Yep. You have to constantly work at being the best. We've all seen what happens when clubs sit back on their laurels and claim that, historically, they're amongst the game's giants. We did it for 26 years and it got us nowhere. Liverpool made similar errors, and you just have to look across the Pennines to Leeds to see what can happen.
With Moyes we waited until we were out of everything and humiliated by every rival and made sure that the season was a complete write off until he was sacked. Right now we aren't even in the new year and a few wins could have us back in the proper mix, he needs to go now before it's another write off season.
he probably deep down blames DEGea
Where do I send my CV...?
Good. Good.
Ask Red Issue. They seem well versed in the board's contact details.
Remember these quotes when he came?
Then he rescinded this to extend his deadline to three years. 18 months in and we are still no wiser to knowing what the feck he is thinking, still asking for time.
Then he rescinded this to extend his deadline to three years. 18 months in and we are still no wiser to knowing what the feck he is thinking, still asking for time.
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