What a Cnut!
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What a Cnut!
We all know he's wanted the job for years and do you really think he'd do more damage than the last two idiots because I don't.
I guess you're one who wants to give it to someone with as much managerial experience as the tea lady?
I'd sooner have a multi title multi club winning manager than someone who was a great player but has shown absolutely nothing to prove he may be even average never mind good enough for Utd as a manager.
And I also believe he's being a bit of a sneaky fecker and hoping he gets the job without having to do shit to show he should be anywhere near the job.
If he really wants to be Utd manager at some point in the future he needs to get off his ass and show everyone why he deserves even considering for it by taking an actual managers job somewhere.
I love the guy as a player he's one of my favourite players like everyone else but by not going to another club to get experience he's showing why he shouldn't be considered.
I have wanted to win the lottery for years, does not give me any right to win it though. Could he do more damage? Never underestimate the damage that he could do. What we need now is stability, somebody that understand the club and football.
Maureen has a lot of experience, but its all brief experience and he ends up having to leave within 3 years. He is a one man circus.
Maureen plays awful football. Absolutely dire stuff to watch. For me, he got very very lucky during his first period at Chel$ki. The backbone of a top squad was already in place. Lampard and Terry carried him.
Why do people on here seem to think that if someone is anti-Mourinho that they are automatically in favour of Giggs getting the job?
I wonder how many of the pro Maureen people have actually watched his teams play?
The Sun printed a story saying Woody held a meeting to discuss LVGs future yesterday with the board, which is what started it. They also printed stories saying we had been in contact with Mou and that a deal had all but been agreed.
Daily mail printed similar claims
In fairness, if Woody and other club executives had a meeting on Monday its difficult not to imagine them discussing the situation.
I see. So the tweets were a direct result from the Sun article ? Which Sun journalist was attending the conference today ? It would have been an ideal opportunity to call him out right on the spot, holding that printed edition in front of the camera and publically put them to shame. The other journalists do have a case though if they did not state anything about a sack. Everything put aside, no matter what has been said, everything will unfold the next weeks. The pressure is out of the roof for the manager, staff and players. To make things worse, we have not won away at stoke since that away game in 2-12/2013 if im not mistaken.
The fact that Mendes used the words " not official" make me think that discussion occured, but I'm speculating.
Not necessarily . He could be convinced to stay after his contract if things were going well and targets were being met.
It obviously has happened, no reason for Mendes to use such specific words otherwise
Have no doubt that story was fed to them by Maureens people, to destablise the situation further.
Its plausible Woody has been talking to Mendes about a transfer, and Mendes then mentions Maureen. That gives Mendes cover to say "not official".
The simplest solution is most of the time the correct one, the Glazers and Woody tested the water, it doesn't mean that LVG is in danger but they are protecting their asses.
Anyone seen the back of the Sun tomorrow? I really hope it burns down to the ground with nonsense they wrote having a go at LVG
I also don't get this. It's fecking annoying.
One of the likable things about LVG is his view on the media, I enjoy watching him take offence to questions and snap back at them with this face
Storming out of the presser today shows the press that they're getting to him. He should be experienced enough to handle that pressure.
Yep, it's about time Managers start taking the piss out of the stupid questions and idiot reporters/journalists. The knobheads deserve all they get.
It's just ridiculous. Disgusting paper with disgusting journalists. I've had nothing but negative words to say about LVG, but after the last few days I hope he proves us all wrong, sticks the middle finger to the media, wins trophies, and all while playing good football.
This is the most "siege" you could ever hope for. If the players don't come out flying against Stoke you have to seriously question if they still support LVG, and also whether they should have a squad number at this club.
They dont play for LVG, they play for United. We are going to learn a lot about our players at Stoke.
Well it's not that simple, though. I agree, the motivation should already be there just because of the club. But unfortunately it isn't that simple.
If its not that simple then they need to go.
A lot of teams would be saying goodbye to a lot of players.
It's a bit of a fairytale, if I'm honest, to think that players will always be motivated and at their best just because they represent club. It is part of the job specs of a manager to maintain that and maximise it at all times.
You'd be hard pressed to find players of that mould. Some of our best players over the years have probably not been that type of player, it's just so easy to not realise it because SAF was so good at his job.
Few weeks back, it was still in "contention for title" and now its top 4. How the goal posts have moved within weeks.
You guys need to get with the program 3 years is a long time for a manager these days, averaging 1.95 for a prem manager and the only one keeping that stat up is AW.
I'd love pep to come but he will not be a long term manager, he looks like he needs to escape now and then.
I think Ancellotti was the best fit for us for a longer period of time than pep or Jose but he's spoken for.
I'd love pep to come but he will not be a long term manager, he looks like he needs to escape now and then.
I think Ancellotti was the best fit for us for a longer period of time than pep or Jose but he's spoken for.
These guys are killing the LVG vids
Exactly. A CL place shouldn't be something we're "in contention for"- it should be a given (especially considering all the money we've spent).
Sorry, but this little gem deserved some recognition.
That is gold.
I know some people are anti Mourinho, but let's not downplay his achievements now.
I firmly believe that he would. Maybe not from a footballing point of view but as a club, yes! He would damage the brand, status and name of the club. He would get us playing reactive football and cast us in the underdog seat as the team that has to fight the superior teams and stop them. Such attitude is fine and even admirable if you are Atlético Madrid or Porto or anyone not possessing the finances and status we do but not for Manchester United or any truly big club. Even City are distancing themselves from that man and he basically guarantees trophies, doesn't that tell you something?
From where I sit, I don't see how he damaged Porto, Chelsea or Inter Milan brand equity - in fact they all became talk of the football world when he was in charge. Likewise, they all Retained status and remained relevant and competitive after he left.
I have some Porto and InterMilan fans who revere him like I do Cantona and SAF. Most chelsea fans still do too.
Mourinho doeas have flaws and comes with baggage but history proves that damaging status and brand equity is not one of them.
Of course they do as Atlético fans do with Diego Simeone which is why I brought up their example. Your expectations and bar for success as a club is dependent on your status and finances as far as I am concerned. If you are Inter, Porto or Chelsea at least 10 years ago, they were in no position to be picky and Mourinho did an outstanding job getting those clubs a taste for success. I would rank his appointment by those clubs to be brilliant, genius even. But we are a team that should be aspiring to dominate the way Barcelona or Bayern do, i.e: playing font foot dominant football that makes other teams react to it. Mourinho has never done that, he always was more comfortable being the underdog. If he comes to Manchester United and change his footballing attitude, then by all means but there is no evidence to suggest he will or if he will be good at it. And to me, a big club with the money we have, should not be happy playing reactive football even if it's winning.
Ah, I see your line of thought.
Interesting perspective - has not considered it like that before.
apparantly he wants to desperatly manage us. But we want assurances about his behaviour.
Lets hope this will be done soon.
Lets hope this will be done soon.
Cheers mate. I always looked at him as a gun for hire type as in when you really need a trophy now and not a minute later, you get him in and he'll do whatever necessary to get it and more often than not, he will. Chelsea back in 2004 needed to translate their money to trophies. Inter were getting humiliated in the CL year in year out and Real were being humped by probably the greatest team of all time and couldn't get past the last 16 of the CL. In their respective cases, I could see the logic in going "sod it, let's get him, he knows every trick in the book and he'll get us there". The same situation applies now to Liverpool for example who goodness knows have suffered long enough or maybe Milan if they come into some money.
For us, it's been two bad years, maybe 3 if you count this one which does not constitute going that road. I believe we should still looking, even gambling on building the type of success that Barcelona or Bayern have been enjoying as of late, something he never proved he can do. So unless we are stuck in a right rot where our status is actually being threatened, let's please keep him as far away as possible.
So if your boss is a bell you will suck it up and be totally motivated cos you're happy with the company? You are probably one of an elite few.
I'd wager every United player is proud to be one, and a fair few wish their coach wasn't there so they could enjoy the experience.
Exactly. Liverpoolisation firmly underway. We can't score goals, we're losing back to back (including at home) to promoted teams, we're out of the European Cup, but don't worry we MIGHT get fourth. What a return on £250 million. The Wolf of Wall Street should've managed Man Utd. He could've p'd cash away without anyone questioning what he was delivering with the spending.
Fecking hell. What an embarrassment of a paper.
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