TBF most of us fell asleep by the time the ball reached the goal so I can sort of see his point
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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And you doubt Giggsy would want another 2-3 years or so playing second fiddle.
Best bet is he does a G Nev and finds a decent team to have a proper crack.
If he's good, he can come back in future. If he's not, then he didn't deserve to waltz in at the top
I think he has to go. Every manager can't be told that he has to have Giggs as Assistant Manager. It has to stop somewhere. He needs to go and manage now.
It's because we pass the ball around the back for .......89mins
Twice. Giggs has been part of two management teams that have failed.
If they all get sacked, why shouldn't he?
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It really is. The guy was a part of the Moyes and LVG failures and people think he should get a promotion for it
If the idea is to promote from within, why Giggs? Why not one of the other backroom staff?
This obsession with Giggs is bordering on cult like.
think Round was assistant under Moyes and Giggs down lower, but now he's been assistant, there's nowhere to go without an obvious downgrade ifMourinho comes
No we don't. We get into good areas quite often, but our end product is woeful.
He was busy learning how not to fail.
remember when Arsenal were mocked for this very thing?
And they had more threat than we do!
If were sacking him,then so be it.
If he comes out with the job, I will hate that the club hasnt released a statement yet to end the speculation.
If he comes out with the job, I will hate that the club hasnt released a statement yet to end the speculation.
Exactly!
He's already got one promotion out it, while everyone else got sacked, another would just be insane.
Swansea?
This reminds me of the bullshit around LvG's press conferences in his first few months. Half the Caf was getting moist over them as they meant anything at all. Nobody here has any idea what Giggs is like in the dressing room. Man management is totally different from media management.
Any new updates?
Lots of pages since last night.
Lots of pages since last night.
Plus I think Mourinho would genuinely see us as his last stop barring possibly managing Portugal at the World Cup in his twilight years. Best bet all round if we know we can't get Pep is to part ways with LvG and Giggs and give this a shot.
I'm not overjoyed at all but the more time we waste with LvG is just letting things slip further away, and appointing Giggs would be complete suicide in such a competitive season.
Ultimate vilification of LVG then. Sold all our strikers, sent one of our best prospects on loan. Went into most games with a 19year old as our CF, and continued with a player who's clearly past his best
Arsenal weren't mocked for that; they were mocked for never addressing the absence of leaders on the pitch. They were always a soft touch.
I'd rather we appoint Cantona then Giggs if board are going all mental.
In the boardroom/
That's because they pass the ballot papers around the back for 75 mins before it reaches anyone else
May be we are waiting for the FA youth cup game to be over?. (Takes straws, clutches at them vigorously)
If Giggs has been part of any pre-match teamtalks we now know why they have been playing like they are comatose.
how about Keane.
His philosophy is so much better. He'd be quoting Rimbaud
Being charismatic isn't done via switch, Giggs is about as lifeless as it gets, and LvG's problems don't stem from his personality, they stem from his rigid, unrelentingly obsessive system. This top 4 is a dogfight, you don't bring a barely house trained puppy to it, we need a hardened bulldog if we are going to avoid falling out of the top 4 again.
In both cases it's been a failure of man management. Individuals behind the scenes will be telling the board how Giggs' reputation has fared over that time.
And it's not like he make made any final decisions. The last two times we appointed from outside the club, the manager failed.
Robbie or Will?
I have to say, I totally understand the worry about the possibility of Giggsy getting the top job, but some of the disrespect for a club legend on here is borderline criminal.
Probably discussing more ways to get money out of long suffering fans.
Because LvG has told them to stand still and hold their positions on the pitch. MNF illustrated it nicely on SKY yesterday. There's only so much an individual who isn't allowed to make final decisions can do.
What disrespect?
It was definitely a commercial thing
feck this shit, i am going to sleep.
That other thread had a fair bit, but I can't see any disrespect here? Certainly nothing borderline criminal?
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