Mourinho will never get the best out of him. He can only get the best of a certain type of player. Luke Shaw will end up being a top quality player somewhere in my opinion.
Luke Shaw nearer to Manchester United exit [The Times]
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Players who put in the effort you mean
It's like the press is seeing how far they can push the trolling before we start complaining instead of believing it as canon.
So we can be linked to Griez still, even though he says he's not keen, but we draw the line at Shaw to Barca.
Yup, they're just willing it to happen, the bastards.
What the feck happened with Shaw recently. Only 2 months ago he was in the team and playing well, Mourinho was praising him and his attitude and hailing him as one of the best left backs around.
Cut to two months later he's in the dog house again.
Cut to two months later he's in the dog house again.
Drogba said the other day Jose is only harsh on the players he likes, so maybe Jose secretly loves Shaw. Do think whatever happens the kid I reckon will go to a decent team, recent weeks been linked with Chelsea, Spurs,City and now Barca. Might just be paper trash but I think there is an actual player there and maybe he just needs to hit the reset and move on from United.
Starting to think he just doesn't care as much as Mourinho wants him to. He obviously isn't playing the game the gaffer wants him to, I mean, Mou is a cnut, but not that much of a cnut. I'd be delighted to see Shaw start regularly, I think he's a tremendous talent.
I think spurs is more realistic. He wouldnt get near that Barca XI.
What was that defender they bought from Arsenal a few years ago? Barely played.
If its Mouinho being harsh or the player being lazy, either way its a shame because he has bags of potential and if he doesnt wise up he'll be looking back at a "what could have been" career.
What was that defender they bought from Arsenal a few years ago? Barely played.
If its Mouinho being harsh or the player being lazy, either way its a shame because he has bags of potential and if he doesnt wise up he'll be looking back at a "what could have been" career.
He will be a great player for Fulham or Ipswich in a 2 or 3 years, I agree. Could have an even bigger impact for Barnsley in 5.
Obviously he does something that rubs Jose the wrong way. It may be totally Shaw's fault, but i think the suspicion lingers that Mourinho is just too harsh on some players.
He says himself one of his faults is his need for players to have a certain attitude. Whether that needlessly alienates certain players or not.
If I had to put up with Mou being a douche to me and earn 100k/w, I'd do it. Guys must suck it up. It's a team that needs to work well and deliver. Not a holiday resort. If players feeling are gonna get hurt, maybe they should go join Loverpool and get free hugs.
I think the story is rubbish but Digne might want to move for regular football so they need a new reserve left back. Shaw needs regular football himself and he isn't going to get that at Barcelona.
Yeah you'd put up with it and so would i, not to mentions loads of other people. But the problem professional footballers know they can go somewhere else and earn similar money.
And thats also with setting aside that footballers are human and some people just don't respond to Mourinho's methods it seems.
About 60 donner kebabs by the looks of things....
Indeed, he won't get the football he wants and I have doubts about Shaw fitting the profile of a good second XI-type signing. If anything he seems to have wilted under the pressure of fighting for a place.
Impressive if true.
Can't wait to see the back of Shaw. Disaster of a signing and a massive waste of money.
You're referring to Thomas Vermaelan from Arsenal, actually LVG was reportedly interested in him. He essentially hasn't played due to being almost permanently injured.
Would fit in with the other Barcelona squad players they've bought in recent times. Don't know what happened to their transfer strategy but their squad player signings have been terrible - and Gomes was probably bought with a view to be a first team player at some point but that went bad.
I think in fairness to Jose, he annoys every manager he has played for. They all say the same thing, endless ability but the application isn't always there. Sad thing is, I think if he's managed correctly and he gets his head down, I think he can still be a top player. I think the mental anguish of that injury has hit him a lot more than maybe we give him credit for. I'm not sure the tough love approach works with him. I think a move to Poch would maybe be his best move for next season. So annoying just a matter of weeks ago, I was thinking he's back and we have our left back sorted for next season.
You and me both mate. Yeah other managers have had a hard time motivating him to be fair. It's annoying that he seemed rock solid and virtually injury free at Southampton.
His injury has no doubt played a part but i wonder if making so much money at such a young age has also distracted him. Supposedly United gave him £130k a week at 18, maybe too much too soon.
Point taken.
I'm going to take Mou's side here, and just say that if a player can't take the criticism - which, lets face it, is only a discussion point here because the manager doesn't mind making his opinion known to the public - then he probably shouldn't stick around. The fact that this isn't the first United manager that has questioned Shaw's desire/work-rate probably indicates that this is a relatively specific situation.
Is it any wonder Shaw is unmotivated? He worked hard to get some games, came in while Young was out and did quite well, started to settle in the team and received very positive remarks from the manager, and is then thrown back into the wilderness as soon as Young is available again.
If we are to expect some consistency from the player then he probably needs some consistency from his manager, too.
I don't condone a professional athlete being unfit, but if he lacks motivation then a new method needs to be tried in order to motivate him. Either that or sell him.
If we are to expect some consistency from the player then he probably needs some consistency from his manager, too.
I don't condone a professional athlete being unfit, but if he lacks motivation then a new method needs to be tried in order to motivate him. Either that or sell him.
So badly wanted him to work out, but it's been a few years now, sadly.
Yeah, but would you if you knew you could earn as much (possibly) working elsewhere? Everyone is different. Some people can handle a bollocking off the boss, some cant, in every walk of life.
But we only get half of a story at best. You might find he got benched again because he played well for a few games and then went and asked if Mou was finally happy. Who knows? Sadly, we will never get the whole story, so we are chewing on supposed half-truths.
Shaw said it was nonsense. Even Martial is only on around £65k.
Boggles the mind how much Rooney was on, looking at that.
Yeah, as always in football, we will only get the truths once player/manager has moved on or retired.
Fair enough, but even £40-60k a week is enough to distract an 18 year old kid i would imagine.
Not that boggling considering he has around 200 league goals and was hot property when he signed that contract
Tbh that’s not really surprising. If Romero fills in for De Gea when he is unavailable and has good games doesn’t mean that we bench De Gea when he returns. Young has been good most season and it’s not surprising he is back to first choice when available
Barca are after him, as per crap sources like Mail.
Maybe we could get a swap with Umtiti
Maybe we could get a swap with Umtiti
Barcelona eyeing shock Luke Shaw transfer to end his Manchester United misery
This is bad news. Barcelona have 2 good LBs in Alba and Digne and yet looking to get one like Shaw. They might let go off Digne to get regular football and slow in Shaw. Although it is bad news for us. I hope we go and buy Alaba
This is bad news. Barcelona have 2 good LBs in Alba and Digne and yet looking to get one like Shaw. They might let go off Digne to get regular football and slow in Shaw. Although it is bad news for us. I hope we go and buy Alaba
Barca are after him, as per crap sources like Mail.
Maybe we could get a swap with Umtiti
If there were a competition for 'most laughable/least believable' transfer nonsense story of the year, this would surely take some beating.
You only have to look at what his ex-players say about him to know exactly what Jose does though. He wants a player to run through walls and will try every manipulation to trigger it in them.
There's a long list of players who praise him for getting the maximum out of them but they're all strong willed themselves, not everyone will be able to tolerate such confrontation and it'll drive some away.
Best thing for both parties is for him to go somewhere with less pressure and for us to get someone with the required guts and passion.
How is it even possible to put on weight as a professional footballer when you're training every day and even fed in the canteen.
He must be eating like a cnut in the evenings
He must be eating like a cnut in the evenings
That is a little different in that De Gea is clearly superior, whereas Shaw is being displaced by a converted winger who wasn't even of the highest quality in his original position.
You're probably right. I'd like to see him get loaned out to a PL team with decent expectations to see how he does before we wash our hands with him completely. Especially as Jose could quite possibly not be here when he returns anyway.
I should just forget any hope that Luke makes it here (or anywhere) but there's just a small part of me that feels it could be a mistake.
Shaw wasn’t better than Young had been before his suspension. It’s a moot point whether Young is a former winger or not.