I wouldn't make us favourites, but he could look at that gaping hole on our left, the players we have there and figure out it will be a better career move.
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Yep, despite Gary Neville himself showing Ramsey around Old Trafford he chose Arsenal instead. Shaw wont choose his next club based on who he supports, he'll choose based on which team will play him, where he'll win lots of trophies and then on top of that whoever offers the best extras like wages. If all of that is exactly the same, sure the team he supports might be picked.
Spot on.
Would love it if we did go for him and pulled it off. He's already performing at a decent level given his age...imagine where he'll be when he's got that experience and stopped growing?
Either stay or Saints or join us. If he joins Chelsea, well he's just naturally a cnut and no one wants to be a cnut.
Either stay or Saints or join us. If he joins Chelsea, well he's just naturally a cnut and no one wants to be a cnut.
did he not say he wants to join Chelsea? or was it the scousers....
He didnt say either. Its known he supports Chelsea. Thats it. John Terry supports United
some hope then....not talking about Terry btw.
Or he could see that Ashley Cole is leaving at the end of the season and decide to fill that gaping hole while also working under the best manager in the world.
Both teams will play him, it's almost certain Chelsea offer bigger draws in the other two categories.
"Supports" is probably a bit inaccurate. He was a United fan as youngsters.
Just been reading the gay-outing thread in the football forum before clicking on this and misreading the headline as "Luke Shaw has a thing for Moyes" 
I use to agree with you on him being the obvious replacement for Cole.. but I think Mourinho is quite happy with Azpilacueta and Ivanovic as his full backs.
There are tons to consider.. I'd say it's a 50-50 chance.
Azpilacueta and Ivanovic have easily been one of the best fullback pairings in the league this season. Us on the other hand...
More of a 80-20 to Chelsea, IMO.
Forget the fact that the lad's a Chelsea fan. That won't be the basis of his decision.
Ashley Cole needs a replacement, and Ivanovic isn't growing younger either. And with the number of games Chelsea will have next season, a third fullback will definitely get around 20 games next season, and that's assuming their first choice full-backs now don't get injured. With us, he may get 30 games next season. And that is all the advantage we have to offer him - 10-15 extra games of first team football.
- Fee and wages? No way we're winning a bidding war against Chelsea, unless we go full retard and decide to pay the Saints 30m, and offer Shaw 120k/week.
- Stature of club? We might be Manchester United, but he's a Chelsea fan for a reason. This won't be a factor.
- Manager? No-brainer?
- Long term future? Chelsea can guarantee him CL football for as long as Mourinho is in charge. We don't have that pull.
The argument looks completely lop-sided to me. If Mourinho wants him, Chelsea'll get him.
Chelsea don't automatically beat us on wages tho. If they want to then they can, but that doesn't mean they always will.
He's making a decision to move to a team a be their left back for 10-15 years. If David Moyes cant improve massively then it's very likely we have a new manager by the end of next season.
Admittedly - is a young player going to think like that? Probably not and in the short term Mourinho is a big pull.
I find it weird you use the Mourinho factor under the 'long term future' heading.
Plus, there's a good chance Pocohontasinho is our next manager so maybe he comes for him.
He's making a decision to move to a team a be their left back for 10-15 years. If David Moyes cant improve massively then it's very likely we have a new manager by the end of next season.
Admittedly - is a young player going to think like that? Probably not and in the short term Mourinho is a big pull.
I find it weird you use the Mourinho factor under the 'long term future' heading.
Plus, there's a good chance Pocohontasinho is our next manager so maybe he comes for him.
When did this happen?
And that's why I said, if Mourinho wants him, he'll get him.
Ideally, he should have stayed with Southampton for one more year of experience. But both United and Chelsea need to make a move this summer itself, so the decision will be prematurely forced upon him. He will be making the decision before Moyes is gone, by the looks of it.
I said CL is guaranteed under Mourinho already. We'll probably be back up there by at max 5 years, and things will get evened out after that. But unless there are clear signs to support the contrary, it is quite evident that Chelsea will play more CL games and win more trophies than us in the next three-four years.
I guess gaz fetishness with crosses was the main reason why Ramsey chose Arsenal
Just our luck Evra and Cole both seem on the way out at the same time. We would have had this in the bag if Cole was still first choice at Chelsea.
So we're competing with Chelsea for a LB and City for a CM. Good times.
So we're competing with Chelsea for a LB and City for a CM. Good times.
Or we could go for coentrao, who will be cheaper, and has much more experience in big games. Shaw is a bit overrated for me. Probably to do with nationality though. That Rodriguez fella at Wolfsburg isn't too shabby either.
Shaw's only 18 years old; that's mental, especially for a defender. Most full backs his age are playing reserve team football. He's as close as you're going to get to a guaranteed future star.
The more of I see of him, the more I think he may well be our greatest LB for some years (England), if he fulfills his potential.
He's strong, quick, composed, can cross, it's just the positioning I've seen him lacking in a few times, but at his age, that will come.
He's strong, quick, composed, can cross, it's just the positioning I've seen him lacking in a few times, but at his age, that will come.
They have to be an option first. And their fullbacks say they dont need Luke Shaw
The fact that he's been called into the England squad can only be good for us, he is more or less guaranteed starter if he joined us, not so much so if he goes to Chelsea.
He has international ambitions and the best club he could go to would be us.
He has international ambitions and the best club he could go to would be us.
It hasn't. He's just completely invented that by the looks of it.
The Summer tells a different story. Their only fullbacks will be Ivanovic (30) and Azpilicueta with Cole and probably Bertrand moving on.
There's quite an obvious need for a LB at the club, despite Azpilicueta's performances this season.
Wages isn't an 'extra'. FFS, football is his job, the financial package on offer will be vital in any career move.
30 is absolutely fine. Why would Bertrand have to move on only to sign Shaw? He can compete with Azpilicueta just like Shaw would
Thuram and Cafu played some of their best football after the age of 30.
Aye, 30 is OK for now but you're also entering the age where things can go downhill. Not everyone is a Thuram or Cafu!
As for Bertrand, he's not good enough.
I'm not saying Shaw has more chance of playing at Chelsea than United, because he doesn't. He'd walk into United's team. But by the same token I don't think he'd find it particularly difficult to break into the Chelsea first team within 12 months. If not during his first season then most definitely during his 2nd.
Indeed. he may prefer a move to Chelsea - but ultimately he'll consider any deal which is good for him I'm sure.
Looks a great prospect - so assured for a player his age. Thats the sign of a top player in the making.
Bertrand will be sold in the summer, there's no question about it. He was sent on loan to generate a good fee.
With Cole likely gone, Shaw will find plenty of playing time at Chelsea. Even if Cole signs another one year extension, he'll be a backup.
Huge prediction that, especially when we've had Cole, a left back who was brilliant and has been consistently good for club and country.
You won't find many other's from me, I'm not one to stick my head out usually, but I just have a feeling..
I agree. But if he doesn't quite reach that high, he can still be great for many years.
Would be a great addiction. Looked very at home for England, showing excellent confidence and strength of character
its a "yes please" from me
its a "yes please" from me
I like Lallana as well. Think he could fit into a top side as well.
I'd not seen much of Lallana before that, but he gave a good account of himself IMO.. perhaps a bit raw for a top club yet
So long as Moyes is your manager, I don't see the likes of Shaw choosing you over other top teams.
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