Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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The Guardian are saying the bid has been rejected now? What is it with all this transparency, bring back the subterfuge, smoke and mirrors
 
I think Southampton are trying to get more money for him, maybe around the £30m mark, it's now down to Eddy and his negotiating skills to clinch the deal.

Don't hold your breath on this.
 
If £27m for Shaw is rejected, I think we should move on to other targets. That's probably the upper limit of what I'd pay for him so anything higher and Southampton can feck off!
 


Clearly there is certainty around Old Trafford.. it's common knowledge Louis Van Gaal will be the next manager, I don't understand all these Southampton fans who keep saying "how can they sign him without a manager" blah blah blah..

Just admit it Matt, the move is best for Luke.
 
I think Southampton are trying to get more money for him, maybe around the £30m mark, it's now down to Eddy and his negotiating skills to clinch the deal.

Don't hold your breath on this.
They should feck off. £27m is already a ridiculous price, if they want more they may as well try to find another buyer who will pay that. I guarantee they won't.
 
That's why appointing van Gaal was a matter of some urgency I would have thought. United certainly needed to eliminate that uncertainty before trying to nail down some of these much needed big deals.
 
Southampton are going to milk this.

I said the same yesterday. I can't blame them. United should have asked them their price and haggled down. Instead we are looking down the barrel of more derision if this goes pear-shaped because somebody can't keep a lid on things.
 
There's much more uncertainty within Southampton.

I know, it's a stupid comment for him to make. United and Southampton aren't in any way comparable as clubs. Just goes to show how fickle football people are, one poor season and you're fecked.
 
I said the same yesterday. I can't blame them. United should have asked them their price and haggled down. Instead we are looking down the barrel of more derision if this goes pear-shaped because somebody can't keep a lid on things.
A lid was kept on things.
 
If you're going to take career transfer advice from why not pick a man who wallowed in his own filth his entire career at a club for whom avoiding relegation was cause for celebration?
 
Le Tissier doesn't have much love for United anyway. Not really bothered what latest rent-a-quote is.
 
If you're going to take career transfer advice from why not pick a man who wallowed in his own filth his entire career at a club for whom avoiding relegation was cause for celebration?
:lol: Very graphic.

I find this stance towards Le Tissier a bit weird tbh. Players are labelled as greedy mercenaries, lambasted for not staying loyal to their home club etc. - but then are called unambitious if they do reject to move upward.
 
I think once you bid, it's a bit out of your hands really. You can keep the insiders at United shut up but not those at Southampton. So, it's not too hard speaking from a journalist's point of view.

It's puzzling because Chelsea seem to get the deal done more efficiently rather than Carry On Red Devils.
 
Because the time was right, the bid wasn't made on Sunday, the league was over with and enabled the club / the press to release the information

I don't see the point in making a bid public. Especially as United haven't confirmed it.
 
I said the same yesterday. I can't blame them. United should have asked them their price and haggled down. Instead we are looking down the barrel of more derision if this goes pear-shaped because somebody can't keep a lid on things.
If only we had RedCafe's crack team of international transfer negotiators on hand for advice. You lot are fecking crackers.
 
Yes Luke - listen to Matt. Ignore a lucrative deal, guaranteed starting spot for the foreseeable future at arguably the best supported team in the world because we haven't signed a new manager yet.

Who knows, maybe a spot on Gillette Soccer Saturday when you retire will compensate for lack of achievments and medals. Imagine the banter you'll be having with Jermaine Pennant, Andy Carroll and the Mers!
 
It's puzzling because Chelsea seem to get the deal done more efficiently rather than Carry On Red Devils.

Well depends what you mean by efficiency. I think it's incredibly hard to sign a talented future England LB without anyone knowing about it. It's near impossible. Apart from that, we don't really know what's going.

Also keep in mind, we're going after big names. Established players often have a truck-load of insiders and when we're dealing with them, that's what happens.
 
:lol: Very graphic.

I find this stance towards Le Tissier a bit weird tbh. Players are labelled as greedy mercenaries, lambasted for not staying loyal to their home club etc. - but then are called unambitious if they do reject to move upward.

I only see it as greed when someone like Falcao moves from A.Madrid to Monaco. That is not a step up. Le Tissier could have and probably should have moved to a bigger club to showcase his talents.
 
I don't see the point in making a bid public. Especially as United haven't confirmed it.
Did we confirm the Mata bid straight away? Nope. The fee was already agreed, that's why it finally became public knowledge on Sunday. We can't just come out and say "It's done" - that would completely irk the Southampton fans - it will play out for a few days as if negotiations are happening, then it will be confirmed. Keep the faith.
 
Well depends what you mean by efficiency. I think it's incredibly hard to sign a talented future England LB without anyone knowing about it. It's near impossible. Apart from that, we don't really know what's going.

Also keep in mind, we're going after big names. Established players often have a truck-load of insiders and when we're dealing with them, that's what happens.

Fair points all. Just hope we aren't gazzumped.
 
:lol: You've got to admit it never seems to go as smoothly as elsewhere, does it?

That's only because you follow the transfers closely, where's with other clubs you only hear about once it's close to being done or when it's done.
 
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