After last summer you can kind of sort of maybe see a trend emerging here.
Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...
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Good. Was hoping it's BS.
Annoying that we are forever struggling with transfers while Chelsea just rock up with a brand new striker. No hitches, no opening bids. Just done and dusted.
Hardly our fault if Southampton have rejected our bid is it.
Yep, but there were rumours we bid in January.
All I'm saying is this, if we were to "weigh it up", what is the most likely truth?
Deal done: Mirror, Daily Mail. (2 points).
Bid Made: Nearly every single news outlet. (how many is that? 10+?).
Bid rejected: Guardian. (1 point).
Unless I see an official Southampton statement, or the rest of the media above saying "bid rejected" all at once (like when the bid was made), then I'm saying the Guardian are talking crap.
Jesus christ. This summer is going to be unbearable with caf reaction. It's been one day ffs, and there's nothing wrong with how this has been handled. We've not been 'struggling' with this
So many players leaving and no replacements secured ? Sounds risky. I hope Wooden Ed learned something from last summer.
27 millions is absolutely serious amount, though. Sky have started this and hopefully they'll offer further, substantial news, this week.
27 millions is absolutely serious amount, though. Sky have started this and hopefully they'll offer further, substantial news, this week.
Relax! I was taking the piss. It's two days after the season has finished..
I really want us to sign Shaw and i understand that extra money "must" be paid cause he's one of the best talents in the country but it's simply absurd to pay more than 30m for a 18 year old LB from Southampton.
I know what it means for the club to have young English players in the first team but 27m is more than a good offer. This shouldn't be turned into a serial. For all i know we could get both Coentrao and Luis for about 35-40m.
I know what it means for the club to have young English players in the first team but 27m is more than a good offer. This shouldn't be turned into a serial. For all i know we could get both Coentrao and Luis for about 35-40m.
Ah, sorry. Nothing surprises me on here anymore.
Coentrao has been playing a fair bit for Real Madrid lately, and neither Coentrao or Luis would want to come here to be a sub.
With Luke Shaw, he wouldn't count towards the 25 man squad for another season or so and with Rio leaving, having another home grown player brought in is important who'd stay for many seasons to come. Those two players are at the peak/near their peak. Shaw isn't and has many years ahead.
The difference between a player having a release clause or not, perhaps?
Southampton were never going to say yes to a first bid, even if it had been 40m.
It's not the first time with Chelsea and signing a player quickly though. We've always seemed to dither in completing transfers, even before Dithering Dave came in whereas Chelsea complete it within a few days.
That's more like it.
Maybe. I'm not sure this is relavant though. We went in with a huge bid on the day the league ended. No dithering at all.
Either way, it got to the stage where I would surprised if the deal doesn't go through.
Rafael is a good fullback but I think he gets vastly overrated on this forum. Not to the levels of Liverpool fans claiming Finnan was the best in England for a couple years.
I fully agree with you and perhaps you misunderstood me. I wasn't suggesting that we should buy both Coentrao and Filipe, i was trying to point out how good and respectful towards Southampton and the player himself our offer is.
But if Southampton or anyone else believe that they can rip us off because of the money we paid for Fellaini, we should show them that we are not going to play their games. If an offer of 30m isn't good enough for them we should tell them to go feck themselves and try to get more than 30m from Abramovic. Coentrao or Filipe are excellent choices for the LB position.
Or the new manager could just sign some no name Portuguese player for 7.4m.
Yeah, it's frustrating watching Chelsea swoop in for a player and sign them almost effortlessly while we seem to drag it out for as long as we possibly can, most of the time 'letting it slip' and letting others in. Let's just hope this season is different.
If that is our opening bid the Saints will probably take us for 30.... Screw it, pay the dough, get the deal done
£27mil for an 18 year old left back on the day the season ends is dithering about with below value bids?
Christ.
And Chelsea paid Costa's release clause. Shaw doesn't have one.
The Guardian article is written by Jamie Jackson who is absolutely clueless.
It's madness, is what it is, Damien.
Last summer has broken everyone. Overreactions aplenty.
This.
I thought he was meant to be reliable? Or is that James Ducker?
Rejected may not mean rejected. If someone offers you something and you go back and suggest something else that's not a 'rejection' as such. Were it an outright rejection it would have been picked up by more outlets. It's possible we're just negotiating back and forth over major or minor detail. Who knows.
I don't trust that Jackson article. No other papers have reported that the bid was rejected.
Exactly it would have received a wider audience had that been the case amongst the Manchester and south-coast reporters.
Can someone shed some light on why Mark Ogden is reliable? Not necessarily doubting, it's just that in a few threads I keep seeing his name come up as someone who should be trusted and I don't know why
Jackson is the newest in the United game, I think. Taylor used to cover United before he became the Guardian's chief football writer. Jackson seems a little slower and less informative than the rest, it must be said.
I am surprised at the level of muppetry over Luke Shaw.
He was the one target that was a sure thing. His signing was expected.
I am saving my muppetry for a winger.
He was the one target that was a sure thing. His signing was expected.
I am saving my muppetry for a winger.
I found it odd, it was tucked away in a report about Rio. If the bid got rejected then it would be bigger news. Like I said before, Jackson can be hit and miss.
Broke the Moyes sacking news. Since got other things wrong but that doesn't seem to matter on here.
A journalist is only as good as his source, of course he's going to get things wrong. That's part of the job.
He's like every other journalist then really. I don't trust any of them to be honest.
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