Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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Its not about what a player is worth anymore, it whats the player is worth to the team. Southampton have played great football this season, don't need to pay off any major debts and would ideally like to build on what they have. Why would they sell a top player and a potentially world class prospect to United for a reasonable fee? They don't need to sell him so they would only take a crazy figure, a figure that would allow them to buy 3-5 extra good players with.

We desperately need a LB. Shaw is already a great player with a lot of potential, attacking and defending. He is young and English which means he would help us meet the quota if we got rid of Young/Cleverly etc and he could be our LB for the next 10-15 years.

Look at Rio... He cost us 30mil and it was a crazy figure back then. Would anybody here go back and not sign the Rio contract? I doubt it.

It's a lot of money but it's an investment.
 
After the Thiago and Fabregas saga's last summer I'm still a bit wary about this. It's encouraging that we've put in a very early bid but I reckon Southampton will want a bit more.

Still, I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if we end up having to pay upwards of £30 million for the lad, he's fantastic for his age and showed what he was capable of today by totally nullifying Januzaj, something many fullbacks more experienced than him have been unable to do at times this season. He's well on his way to becoming a great player and he could potentially be here for 10-12 years! :drool:

I hope we get this tied up as soon as possible, ideally before England head out to Brazil.
 
Shaw is worth that. We'd have him for years, and he has the potential to be the best left back in the world.
 
You have to be careful because as soon as you pay the money, his life changes. He'll be playing for a bigger team. What he's done for the saints is different to what it will be like here. He has to get even better as he'll be under more pressure from teams wanting to beat us and with the expectation to challenge for trophies - not to mention how he personally deals with the price tag. 27million? If it costs that and he has the right personality then great. We give Southampton some points this season - no need to give them any players :)
 
Shaw is arguably one of the best young left backs around.

Moura, Oscar, Hazard, Neymar, Gotze, etc - all potentially world class players went for 25M plus. I don't see why Shaw should be any less, albeit being a full back.
 
It's simple guys - you want quality you pay for it. Not prepared to pay - then accept mid table mediocrity and don't whinge about it.
 
Haven't read all this, so it may well be somewhere in here, but would this be a record fee, for a full back?

I'm not sure what Thuram went for, or how much the Cole deal was estimated at. I'm also probably forgetting someone...

Anyway, the boy seems very good. We need a left back. £27m doesn't seem overpriced, to me.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Haven't read all this, so it may well be somewhere in here, but would this be a record fee, for a full back?

I'm not sure what Thuram went for, or how much the Cole deal was estimated at. I'm also probably forgetting someone...

Anyway, the boy seems very good. We need a left back. £27m doesn't seem overpriced, to me.
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Dani Alves went for £29m I think?
 
for people who think hes to expensive think of it this way; if we buy say coentrao for 15 mill and he plays with us for, what, 5 years that makes up 3 million a year.
Shaw, however, would cost us 27million /10+years probably and therefore end up costing us 2,7 million a year at most.

so there, bargain. ;)
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Haven't read all this, so it may well be somewhere in here, but would this be a record fee, for a full back?

I'm not sure what Thuram went for, or how much the Cole deal was estimated at. I'm also probably forgetting someone...

Anyway, the boy seems very good. We need a left back. £27m doesn't seem overpriced, to me.
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Alves cost 29mil
 
im thrilled we have acted so quickly if this true.
think it great we havn't dilly daddled trying to save a million here or thier like we did last summer and just gone and tried to blow the opposition out of the water with such a big bid, yes we are over paying, but it worth it to get the player we want,

Got to say im thrilled if this true, was really worried that our summer activity would be delayed by our whole managment situation, but if this true it a good sign that woodward has learn't from last years dilly dallying and plans on been decisive this summer!
 
Don't forget when we're talking about the price that if we were to buy the "next Rooney" this summer, he'd probably be going for £40-50m easily.

Look how much Barcelona paid for Neymar as an example of how much more expensive players are these days.

Ozil for £40m to Arsenal last summer, a player who was essentially told "you're surpluss to requirements, feck off" goes for £40m?

I think anywhere between £25-30m would be seen these days as a good deal.
 
If this will be one of several signings then he will be a great addition. However if we are using up a large percentage of our budget to bring in Shaw then I'm disappointed. We need to look at bringing in other positions as priority in my opinion.
 
I think securing a top quality English left back, a position we are desperate, who has two seasons in the Premier League under his belt at the age of 19 is more important than the price.
 
Andy_Cole said:
If this will be one of several signings then he will be a great addition. However if we are using up a large percentage of our budget to bring in Shaw then I'm disappointed. We need to look at bringing in other positions as priority in my opinion.
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I think it's one of the two main priorities. The bare minimum we need is one left back and one central midfielder (if Rio's off then add one centre back to that).
 
Andy_Cole said:
If this will be one of several signings then he will be a great addition. However if we are using up a large percentage of our budget to bring in Shaw then I'm disappointed. We need to look at bringing in other positions as priority in my opinion.
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The real weak areas in our squad are central midfield and left back. Even if Evra does stay, he's no longer good enough to be first choice for us, and Buttner is a back-up at best.

We'll also spend big in midfield this summer. We have to really...and while I think the reports of a £200m war chest are well off the mark, I don't think this fee is going to affect the rest of our plans for bringing players in.
 
I'm extremely curious as to who it is that is making this decision. We technically don't even have a manager yet so who's making the decision to sign Shaw and others?

Van Gaal is apparently set to become United manager, but I just cannot imagine him giving the go ahead to sign Shaw. I can't imagine Van Gaal having watched Southampton that much this season to make an assessment on Shaw. So who exactly is making these signings?
 
Zeki Zico said:
I'm extremely curious as to who it is that is making this decision. We technically don't even have a manager yet so who's making the decision to sign Shaw and others?

Van Gaal is apparently set to become United manager, but I just cannot imagine him giving the go ahead to sign Shaw. I can't imagine Van Gaal having watched Southampton that much this season to make an assessment on Shaw. So who exactly is making these signings?
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well don't know for sure we have bid,
but if it is true it will be woodward, probably with the advice of giggs, the scouts fergie and if Gaal is the man then him.

personly im delighted if we are moving ahead like this, what choice do we have, weight till august when Gaal will finally have the squad together, and let him asses the squad for a few weeks and the be scrambling round in the last few weeks of the window to try and sign what we need?

no it much better this way.
 
Even if van Gaal hasn't had a say over this transfer, he's hardly going to kick up a fuss if he has one of the most promising young LBs in the world at his disposal next season. This is as obvious and as safe as a signing we're going to make.

Its the midfielders and wingers that van Gaal should have complete autonomy over signing.
 
Zeki Zico said:
I'm extremely curious as to who it is that is making this decision. We technically don't even have a manager yet so who's making the decision to sign Shaw and others?

Van Gaal is apparently set to become United manager, but I just cannot imagine him giving the go ahead to sign Shaw. I can't imagine Van Gaal having watched Southampton that much this season to make an assessment on Shaw. So who exactly is making these signings?
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Who gives a feck!?!
 
johnmufc said:
If we sign him, it's a magical moment for this football club. Extraordinary young talent, quite amusing to see hordes of fans jump on the bandwagon after watching him today. Looking forward to hearing the cries of those who have been infected by Moyes' mediocre safety first approach, scared of spending what it takes to secure exceptional young talents, preferring an older, above-average option.
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Shaw and Kroos agreed with Moyes to join United. You couldn't be more wrong.
 
Why are people so shocked at Woody going in so quickly to Shaw? Did you not see him on the sidelines shouting at Shaw for contract negotiations?
 
pocco said:
Shaw and Kroos agreed with Moyes to join United. You couldn't be more wrong.
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You're just making shit up now to fit your agenda in the same way the most anti-Moyes lot have. Where the hell have you got it from that Kroos had agreed to join United? It does seem as though the Shaw deal has been worked on for quite a while though and hopefully they've done things properly unlike the deals last summer.
 
RORY65 said:
You're just making shit up now to fit your agenda in the same way the most anti-Moyes lot have. Where the hell have you got it from that Kroos had agreed to join United?
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Straight from the horses mouth. Since he got sacked the papers have said that United won't pursue Kroos, but Moyes did the groundwork for both. To say Moyes didn't want to sign players like Shaw, when he put the deal in place, is wrong. It's not really groundbreaking news though, it's been pretty obvious for a while anyway.
 
pocco said:
Straight from the horses mouth. Since he got sacked the papers have said that United won't pursue Kroos, but Moyes did the groundwork for both. To say Moyes didn't want to sign players like Shaw, when he put the deal in place, is wrong. It's not really groundbreaking news though, it's been pretty obvious for a while anyway.
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Sorry I edited my post because I forgot to add that it does appear that the Shaw work has been going on for a while, you'd imagine so given we've put in such a large bid just a couple of weeks after Moyes has left. By straight from the horses mouth do you mean Moyes? I wasn't aware he'd said anything and I seriously doubt a player as good as Kroos at a club as strong and as big as Bayern would move to a United side not in Europe under David Moyes (or pretty much any manager for that matter).
 
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