Honestly is £30mil that crazy nowadays? The idea of having him and Rafael flanking is orgasmic.
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Except we obviously wouldn't sell him at a loss. If he becomes world class he'd obviously go for much more than that.
Why do some fans get so worked up about fees? If the club sanction it and feel they can afford it then why does it matter? I'd be gutted if we sold a top left back to Madrid, regardless of whether or not we made money on our original investment.
Imagine him + Januzaj/new winger down the left.
It would be awesome.
It would be awesome.
Yeah, I'm not doubting there's a big difference in £15m & £30m, I'm saying neither of them would cost that up front. No idea what you're on about in regard to the players they buy considering they spent around €20m each on Gustavo & De Bruyne this season, the former being on over 100k a week, they can and will spend money. They can afford to pay wages if they want to, they have strong financial backing, if they want to keep him and he doesn't want to move then he'll stay.
I have the same sentiments.
Let's see, based on current ability I'd say he's worth £15 million.
Factor in:
His age +£5million
His potential +£5million
English premium tax + £5million
Yeah I'd say £30million is about right.
Factor in:
His age +£5million
His potential +£5million
English premium tax + £5million
Yeah I'd say £30million is about right.
...do you believe a properly run business will pay over for any service or good?
none of us here knows the ins and out of how the club is actually run. Sometimes mistakes are made..Fellani?
whatever figure you come out with as being 'reasonable' would merely be your own opinion.
Didn't watch the game today, but glad to hear he impressed.
Welcome to Old Trafford Luke!
There's something about this kid that makes me think he will be a top top player (I have the same feeling about Januzaj, but not about Zaha for example). I said it before, I'm not concerned about the fee/wages, I want him badly.
I'am just saying if we pay £30m for him now, we'll likely never see a decent return on the guy in case he wants a move. He could sign a 5 year deal, be with us until he is21- 22, having seen him devlop as a player, with up and downs in the first 2 years and when he really starts to look like the real deal in his 3th- 4th year decide to feck us over and chose for a move to Real Madrid or even worse Chelsea or City (especially if we'll have some troubled times). We'll likley never see a decent return, best case maybay £35m or £40m if he really is the best around by then and most likley it will be less than that ( clubs just never pay silly amounts of money for defensive backs). That is one of the best case scenario's were he actually lives up to his hype (because bascially he has to live up to his hype before he becomes a £30m worth player, he isn't there yet). There are many scenarios thinkable were it could go alot worse, like Shaw just fialing to live up to his hype and becoming the next one in the series of failed overhyped english players that will be flushed out in good time for a big loss.
Not that it will hurt this club too much, but it is simply not wise, not if you can buy equally good players for half the price and use the money to invest in areas were it is more required. We don't need a £30m injection for the leftback, £15m could just suit us fine to replace Evra and use the other £15m to spend further on the midfield. It is not like we got so much money and such a great team we wouldn't know how to spend it all.
I just don't see why 30m is that big of a deal.
Yes it is a lot of money, but 10 or so years ago, we paid 30m for Rio Ferdinand, and looking back, that was great business. 30m today is like 15m back then.
He's probably not a 30m player, but at 18, an established premier league, future star, who is also English, thats the price you have to pay
Yes it is a lot of money, but 10 or so years ago, we paid 30m for Rio Ferdinand, and looking back, that was great business. 30m today is like 15m back then.
He's probably not a 30m player, but at 18, an established premier league, future star, who is also English, thats the price you have to pay
If we can get him, we should absolutely do it, in my opinion. As many have pointed out, he could fill our left back position for the next 10-12 years. I'd rather pay £30 million for Shaw, who we have a good idea will turn into a success than spend £15 million on a foreign gamble in their mid twenties, who may or may not adapt to the Premier League, and who we may end up replacing in a shorter time frame anyway.
Quite frankly, we're not in a position where we can mess about now anyway. We need quality and other Clubs know it, so we're probably going to end up paying more for players than we normally would this summer.
But I wouldn't be happy if Shaw went to Chelsea or Liverpool, fulfilled his potential, and nailed down their left back position for years on end because we were haggling over a couple of million quid. This summer is not the time for regrets. We can't afford anything near a repeat of this season. For me, we should get the deal done as soon as possible and then move on to the other targets.
Quite frankly, we're not in a position where we can mess about now anyway. We need quality and other Clubs know it, so we're probably going to end up paying more for players than we normally would this summer.
But I wouldn't be happy if Shaw went to Chelsea or Liverpool, fulfilled his potential, and nailed down their left back position for years on end because we were haggling over a couple of million quid. This summer is not the time for regrets. We can't afford anything near a repeat of this season. For me, we should get the deal done as soon as possible and then move on to the other targets.
You have no idea what our budget is, what other players we have lined up and for how much. Spending an extra £10m on Shaw compared to another left-back with potential isn't going to make or break our summer. He's the player we've identified, we're confident of his ability and we have the money. He's not going to behave like a 12 year old with Graeme Le Saux posters on his wall when his contract runs down in his mid twenties.
Brilliant fullback - he's ridiculously fast also. I didn't think he was this fast, but he made Smalling look stationary at times. However, if we had a better ref, he would have caused quite a few free kicks and penalty. He uses his arms far too much for my liking, but that should be easy to iron out. He should definitely be a target in the summer - exactly the kind of player United need.
You forgot the United tax. Chelsea would get him for £5m less.
Britsh, probably greatest talent in his position, 10-15 years of service. Just get it done.
Sky saying we have made a bid...
£27 million.
£27 million.
sky sports news
Err, wow!
Less than we paid for Fellaini ?
Absolutely. If he's available, we have to do everything we can to get him. It's a position we need to fill anyway so if we don't get Shaw then we're gonna have to spend on someone so really not worried about the apparent 30m fee. English and young with huge potential but could already slot straight into the first team. There are no drawbacks here.
Not cheap is it...
G'wan Woody son
Let the games begin.
Did not take long for the muppetry to start.
I love how this comes out now, as if United used the fact they were down in Southampton to put a bid in.
£27 million, eh? He's certainly worth the punt. Potentially filling the no.3 shirt for 12 years or more.
And so it begins
Are all our bids going to go public again just like last summer? I preferred it when we didn't have a clue what was going on.
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They'll reject it.
Saves the possibility of somebody not picking up the fax.
Not wasting any time!
Hope the talks have been done and this is wrapped up quickly.
I hate transfers that drag on
I hate transfers that drag on
The muppetry has began early haha
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