We play Southampton on the last game of the season. Steve Bruce is there too and his team plays Villa in a couple of weeks.
Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...
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Or maybe because we still have to play Southampton this season and they are doing a bit of scouting.
Or Yoshida
A bit of both I would say.
If we need to send three people to watch Southampton to prepare for our match with them, we're in trouble. Meanwhile they dont personally watch us and will still be confident of winning
or lovren ir scniederlin....the saints have a number of interesting players
If United opt for Shaw this summer then i can't see Southampton selling him for less than £20 million (low estimate!) which for a LB with very little International or European experience is a bit of a joke really.
They must be smarter options available!
They must be smarter options available!
He'd be the perfect signing IMO. Young, English, with brilliant potential. Even though he's very young, he'd still be good enough to be a regular starter for us, which is why we should get him. He'd improve our first team and surely he'd get even better in the next few years. We'd be getting our left back for the next decade if everything goes right.
scouting his next managerial job? (villa)
"Young, English, Potential"...screams danger to me! add another £10 million to my first estimate!
To be fair, 'potential' in this case is just a part of it. This isn't like when we bought Jones, hoping to eventually see him succeed Ferdinand/Vidic. Shaw has already been better than Evra this season. If we buy him, it will be with the intent to make him first choice based on what he can do now. The potential to improve is on top of that.
All valid points, but i'd question how he would handle the pressure of playing for United (especially after this season) and playing with a huge price tag over his head. Far more experienced player have all struggled, and for me, those question marks make it worth considering other options.
Also similar to Barkley, they are both kids and their valuations will not raise that massively after another season. It is not like United are grabbing a bargain, the hype already has them at obscene amounts of money, so high in fact that they can't really go any higher, a few million yes! but watching them for another season would remove a lot of the risk involved in any transfer.
But tbh i'd hate another summer to go by without the CM position being sorted, so i'd take most of the LB fund and chuck it into the midfield.
Also similar to Barkley, they are both kids and their valuations will not raise that massively after another season. It is not like United are grabbing a bargain, the hype already has them at obscene amounts of money, so high in fact that they can't really go any higher, a few million yes! but watching them for another season would remove a lot of the risk involved in any transfer.
But tbh i'd hate another summer to go by without the CM position being sorted, so i'd take most of the LB fund and chuck it into the midfield.
Sounds like we'll probably have enough to spend big on both, tbh. But I agree that if it had to be one or the other, I'd go cheap on a LB to get the CMs we wanted. Hell, I'd happily have Buttner as our only proper LB if it meant sorting our CM problems out once and for all.
we will spend big...I have no doubt. My only concern is Moyes needs to use these players to win in style.
That is how he always looks.
Round always looks confused. Always.
Another option would be to keep Evra and not play him for every second in every match! how about spreading the game time with Buttner, then the LB position can be looked at after another season. But this is a Shaw thread so i'll say no more.
And Neville just doesn't show it on his face. I bet he is out of his depth too.
Anyways, I hope they are watching at Schneiderlin too. He is probably more value for money than Shaw IMO.
Probably there for Rickie Lambert.
There are, but our transfer strategy seems to be spend as much money on big named talents, almost as if Moyes is saying "look, I can attract big named players/out-compete other teams".
I think this is over emphasised with regards to signings. The idea when signing young players is that we are buying their futures, not their past.
A 19 year old left back is hardly going to have an extensive CV, with Alaba being an exception I suppose. Shaw has shown to be more than good enough to play at this level and is amongst the best in the league in his position already. The idea would be for him to write his story in a United shirt, not a Saints one.
I've relatively confident about getting Shaw for some reason. Earlier in the season when they were doing well you almost wouldn't blame Shaw for sticking around to see if they could have a crack at the Europa League spots and grow from there (quite a few in the press were talking up their chances too).
Now though they've dropped off a little and are 6 points off us having played two more games which seems to have putten a dampener on those ambitions. Unless Shaw's a Le Tissier type you'd think he'd be very receptive to coming to a huge club who can offer him a starting left-back spot straight away because he's definitely too good to be scrapping with Newcastle for 8th.
Now though they've dropped off a little and are 6 points off us having played two more games which seems to have putten a dampener on those ambitions. Unless Shaw's a Le Tissier type you'd think he'd be very receptive to coming to a huge club who can offer him a starting left-back spot straight away because he's definitely too good to be scrapping with Newcastle for 8th.
I think the agreed fee will be around the £20m mark, rising to £25m after appearances/trophies etc.
I don't really care what the fee is at the end of the day. £30m would be steep, but someone will pay it if that's the price. Kid's a star.
I don't really care what the fee is at the end of the day. £30m would be steep, but someone will pay it if that's the price. Kid's a star.
Watching MOTD I'd say that's looking very likely
Closer to £30m I think
£30m for a fullback? Jesus.
#MoyesIn
Genuinely can't believe we're going to pay £30 million for a full back when last season we refused to spend £30 million on Ander Herrera.
Beat Chelsea to the signature? Pure Woodward spin. Has Roman ever spent anything like £30 million on a defender? Fantasy land. He probably laughed as soon as he heard the figure quoted.
He's a good player, overrated because he's English, but a good player nonetheless. He'll make us stronger but will it prove to be value for money when money is so clearly needed to be spent elsewhere?
Beat Chelsea to the signature? Pure Woodward spin. Has Roman ever spent anything like £30 million on a defender? Fantasy land. He probably laughed as soon as he heard the figure quoted.
He's a good player, overrated because he's English, but a good player nonetheless. He'll make us stronger but will it prove to be value for money when money is so clearly needed to be spent elsewhere?
A tad overpriced but not my money so I could care less. If we've got the money, let's spend it.
I've got a nagging feeling we're slowly becoming Real Madrid.
I've got a nagging feeling we're slowly becoming Real Madrid.
it's a fortune but if the club can afford it then who cares? We're well run financially so I'm sure they know what they're doing.
Totally worth it IMO. The lad is already very good and his potential is great. Our LB could be sorted for the next decade if it works out - and he's English as well.
It is an outrageous amount, but then again I think it's outrageous you can't buy a Twix for 26p any more.
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