think you lost a few good players because of a few dollars. Most would have stayed because Arsenal are a great club...blame your kin board.
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think you lost a few good players because of a few dollars. Most would have stayed because Arsenal are a great club...blame your kin board.
He has just started to follow Phil Neville on Twitter --- for all the muppets out there!
If we bought him for 20mil+ and had him for 5 or so seasons and he became world class, regardless of what team he supports, do you really think we'd sell him to Chelsea??
You big fecking tease
I disagree he got a whiff of something stale, he just got offered money. You're giving him far too much credit.
Game time?
Of course it hits a nerve, it was totally farking stupid by the club (and even worse I think it was part of the powerplay between Dein and Fiszman).Must have hit a nerve there.
Did we ever get anything apart from Cole's side of the story?
btw that story about him nearly crashing his range rover when he heard he was being offered £55K (or whatever) set a new low in hateful footballer greed stories, back in the day.
He's a horrible little scrote, I'll give you that, but I don't think he just went for the money. I can't imagine he'd have been the only one who saw a dry spell coming at Arsenal. Chelsea were an exciting option at the time and everyone thought they'd sweep the board, even established stars like Shevchenko and Ballack fancied it.
Makes our achievement in winning the title the next season even better IMO. Despite the fact some of them struggled, the best side in the country had just signed Cole, Shevchenko, Ballack and a few fancied youngsters and trimmed some of the deadwood. Every journo under the sun reckoned we were finished and we won the title playing cracking football. That title felt so good.
Fair enough. It's alright though, you got Gallas.
I think it's totally misrepresented and Cole is unfairly demonised (not a popular view among our supporters). He agreed at deal at £55K with Dein (who was a board member) knowing perfectly well he could earn £80K at Chelsea. Having made that pretty big concession (would you turn down down a 45% pay uplift?) he not unreasonably felt it was flung back in his face when they tried to chisel him for 5K. I think it was about Danny Fiszman cutting Dein down to size - you don't call the shots I do. No one in their right mind would have done what they did otherwise.
Totally agree regarding our title that year. The thing is with Cole is, even as far as footballers go, he's very much a broken bulb in a box of broken bulbs, hence why i'm reluctant to think he thought Arsenal (especially under Wenger) were about to go on a lengthy and (relatively speaking) shitty run.
I sometimes do that, especially if it's on my phone. My thumb glides over the screen and ends up hitting the favourite option.
You don't think he would be first choice for either Chelsea, Arsenal, City or Liverpool then? He would walk into all the Top 4 as first choice with CL to boot.
He's not better than Gibbs right now (and may never be).
He's not better than Azpilicueta yet either. At Liverpool he'd walk into the line-up but at City he'd probably be rotated with whoever's kept out of Clichy/Kolarov.
Some people are going way overboard with how good Shaw is NOW. Potential, future, in a few years...sure. Right now though he's just good.
Some people are going way overboard with how good Shaw is NOW. Potential, future, in a few years...sure. Right now though he's just good.
No, he wouldn't.
None of them have the obvious vacancy at LB that United have. There's every chance that Evra is off the summer so the only player he'll need to be better than to nail down a place in our first XI is Alex Buttner (currently a class below starting LBs at the other clubs you mention)
Re the chance of CL football, footballers will make decisions based on more than just the following season. You didn't see the best footballers in the world beating Spurs door down when they had that season of CL football. There's a pecking order amongst clubs that goes beyond the league table at the end of any given season.
Azpilicueta has probably been the best left-back this season, but he's actually a right-back. If Chelsea decide to move him to the right and Ivanovic to the centre, then Chelsea would have the same situation with Cole as we have with Evra.
Of course, but we're talking about whether Shaw would "walk into" the team of any top four club. I'm sure Shaw would get plenty of minutes next season if he were to move to Chelsea but I doubt he'd play anywhere near as often as he would at Man Utd - their current defence is doing fine so I don't think it'll be ripped up for Shaw immediately.
Well isn't that what the £20m is supposed to be for?!
Well we aren't going to get a cheap deal with other clubs sniffing round, Southampton knowing we have money to spend and we will be desperate for a LB when Evra leaves in the summer. Paying over the odds isn't ideal but it needs to be done.
I'd use him as a 'smoke screen' to get a better value target who is ready for the first team. We're not really at the stage where we want a LB that will bed in and be great in 3/4 years time. We can't afford that luxury with Evra playing so poorly, and Buttner.
We should be after a 25/26 year old who is in their prime, and ready to be a first team regular. Also need someone durable, who plays > 30 games a season regularly. I'd be scouring Serie A personally, seems to be off everyone's radar.
We should be after a 25/26 year old who is in their prime, and ready to be a first team regular. Also need someone durable, who plays > 30 games a season regularly. I'd be scouring Serie A personally, seems to be off everyone's radar.
So this Shaw stuff was bullshit then? That Kruger person saying they wont sell best players
And which Serie A left back are you going to find there? They are all pretty poor, really. Most teams play with wing backs too, in the sort of Valencia mould; quick, powerful, not the greatest footballing brains.
£30m would be silly. We need to remember that apart from Evra we'll have to replace Vidic, Carrick and it won't hurt if we get a new winger, another midfielder and a forward to replace some of the other departures (Nani, Kagawa, Hernandez all likely to leave, wouldn't be necessary if we kept just two of them). If we spend £30m on Shaw to replace Evra and £30m on Carvalho to succeed Carrick I can't imagine there will be much more left in the budget to pursue other targets.
This Summer we need to be very careful with our money.
This Summer we need to be very careful with our money.
The headline didn't match the content in the original interview though it is along similar lines.
As far as I can tell, Shaw/his agent has told United he would be willing to join should United agree a fee with Soton. There is interest from Chelsea and possibly City too but some doubt as to whether they would be prepared to match the sort of figure United have indicated they are prepared to pay. Both this deal and the Carvalho deal still have plenty to go before being finalised.
Agree with this. Shaw is not such an amazing player that we should be rushing to pay £30m when we might be able to get an early 20s leftback (say Alex Sandro) for £18m - £20m.
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Do fans have the memory of gold fish?
Chairman denies a transfer story "oh that's that then".
Really? This is why I don't find it hard to believe people vote Tory or read the Daily Mail
Chairman denies a transfer story "oh that's that then".
Really? This is why I don't find it hard to believe people vote Tory or read the Daily Mail
I thought the consensus a few pages ago was get him at any cost, very good player, bla bla bla. Now it's he isn't worth it, not better than Gibbs and that Chelsea player whose name I'm too lazy to attempt spelling.
By that time Roman has left and Chelsea have gone sour not being able to afford the wages. I think Luke Shaw would pull out of the plan when he has to play in league 2.
I know you're kidding but just for the record, Chelsea could get by without Roman's money now I think. Their worldwide profile has risen enough to warrant revenue that is sufficient to sustain their current model, give or take a few million. They are no longer running on massive losses.
Yeah just a joke as we have no clue what will happen in 5 years time. They could be positive things for Chelsea, or negative things
Abramovic hasn't given them the money. He (or his heir) walks away, calls in the loan and they go bust overnight.
Indeed, it's just a loan and they couldn't pay it off in a million years but I doubt he'll ask them to return it. City are in the same position basically.
I agree with that, however without the fall back option of Abramovic's money I'd imagine they would be a lot more cautious about spending. A club like United can cope without UCL for a few years, I'm not sure Chelsea could.
Please, we can only think of hypotheticals which are worst for United.
Not anymore they don't.
Some would probably consider him too old but Felipe off A Madrid is the left back id love to sign. I think hes excellent.
That's another transfer forum wet dream shot down.
Startling approach. I quite expected him to say they'd be well up for selling everyone
When's this been shot down?
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