Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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On that favorite, there is also another tweet that he which he favorited:



Quite funny actually

For clarification he was celebrating when Ba scored that late winner against PSG.
 
Steven Seagull said:
Ivanovic has done a pretty impressive job at RB and Mourinho loves him. £30m is probably what Southampton are demanding, rather than Chelsea pushing the price up.

Whatever happens we're likely going to have to pay at least 20% over the odds this summer, so why not do it for the most promising English full back since Cole himself? Seems the most obvious choice to me. Unless there's loads of Evra's floating around for £8m.
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Good point on Ivanovic. You're right, it does seem that Mourinho loves him. Chelsea supporters seem to have a love/hate relationship with Ivanovic. He's a huge physical presence, is good defensively and is a goal threat from set pieces, but he's so obviously not a natural fullback. He can't cross a ball to save his life most of the time and gets beaten for pace and skinned by the good wide players sometimes.

If they did bring in Shaw he'd be moved back to CB where he probably belongs and could rotate with anyone along the back 4.
 
I think we'll sign him, we could be the best club for him at this stage in his career. I'm confident he will eventually join Chelsea though, so £30 million is steep if we're to only have him for five or six seasons rather than ten or eleven.
 
DWelbz19 said:
I don't see it on his actual twitter. Either fake, or he deleted it. Most likely fake.
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Took this myself so no Its not.
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We've got a serious muppet in here.
 
Did he unfavourite it after, then?
 
KiD MoYeS said:
I think we'll sign him, we could be the best club for him at this stage in his career. I'm confident he will eventually join Chelsea though, so £30 million is steep if we're to only have him for five or six seasons rather than ten or eleven.
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If he joined us, there's no way we'd be compliant in selling him to Chelsea.
 
Blasphemy said:
Our club has a finite amount of money no? If we spend £30m on Shaw we'll have less to spend in other areas.
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Yep, I've been pointing this out for years but the muppets go 'la la la'. If you spend £15M too much for Fellaini and £10M too much for Shaw that's the fee for a decent CM.
 
peterstorey said:
Yep, I've been pointing this out for years but the muppets go 'la la la'. If you spend £15M too much for Fellaini and £10M too much for Shaw that's the fee for a decent CM.
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But we didn't spend £15 million too much for Fellaini, thus, it becomes a moot point.

Or, you know, we could just spunk £42.5 million on an unnecessary vanity purchase instead of using that £42.5 million intelligently to buy a top-class centre-forward and defensive-midfielder...

That's football.
 
DWelbz19 said:
If he joined us, there's no way we'd be compliant in selling him to Chelsea.
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All he'd have to do is run his contract down. I suspect he feels United would be good for his development 'til he reaches his mid twenties, then he'll favour a move to his boyhood club.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
All he'd have to do is run his contract down. I suspect he feels United would be good for his development 'til he reaches his mid twenties, then he'll favour a move to his boyhood club.
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So presumably we're getting Ramsey on a free soon?
 
Nope, we don't sell to rival PL clubs. And it's not like Chelsea will be waiting 4 years for Shaw and won't sign a leftback in that period.
 
nahealai said:
But we didn't spend £15 million too much for Fellaini, thus, it becomes a moot point.

Or, you know, we could just spunk £42.5 million on an unnecessary vanity purchase instead of using that £42.5 million intelligently to buy top-class central midfielders...

That's football.
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I thought it was £37m for Mata.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
All he'd have to do is run his contract down. I suspect he feels United would be good for his development 'til he reaches his mid twenties, then he'll favour a move to his boyhood club.
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Far too simplistic thinking. A lot could happen in a four-to-five year time span, especially in football. The 'boyhood club' feeling is lost for a lot of players when they are truly accepted as fan favourites and become accustomed to success and the lifestyle. And as somebody mentioned, who is to say Chelsea won't sign an actual left back within this time period, and therefore have no need for Shaw?
 
DWelbz19 said:
Far too simplistic thinking. A lot could happen in a four-to-five year time span, especially in football. The 'boyhood club' feeling is lost for a lot of players when they are truly accepted as fan favourites and become accustomed to success and the lifestyle. And as somebody mentioned, who is to say Chelsea won't sign an actual left back within this time period, and therefore have no need for Shaw?
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Obviously a lot could happen, just a feeling I have. He is obviously a big Chelsea fan.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Obviously a lot could happen, just a feeling I have. He is obviously a big Chelsea fan.
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Chelsea would obviously be paying us for him so it's not like it's just 30mil lost. If Chelsea buy him from us I'm positive we would recoup most of what we pay for him now, especially if he develops as well as many are hoping he will.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Shaw is still a kid.
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Exactly, but he could - and most probably will - grow out of the wanting to play for the team he supports and play for the team that heightens his career.
 
I will be extremely surprised if we do sign Shaw, but I will be delighted. I said earlier that currently a transfer to Moyes' Manchester United would be a step sideways for Shaw, so if he does sign it will only serve to confirm that the only thing we can now offer players is money. Less success on the pitch equals less money but now we spend more money. This seems dangerous, and it worries me that many of our fans think it is something to be proud about that the club will attempt to buy its way out of trouble by standing by an incompetent manager who got us into trouble in the first place.

Shaw would be the correct signing, though. It annoys me to see fans who would rather go with the 'safer' older player. This is the Moyes mentality setting in, safety first. Ferguson made one of the best signings in the club's history by having the courage to sign an exquisite young talent in David de Gea, when many of our fans and the media were clamouring for a safe, above-average goalkeeper like Stekelenburg or Begović. Imagine where the club would be with one of those pretenders instead of de Gea.

If our fans must be arrogant and pretend there is a special 'United Way' to conduct things, then let us say it is buying and developing young talents. Standing by a young talent like de Gea or Shaw, seeing them progress and develop into sublime footballers, this is something that will fill me with more pride than standing by a manager who's only progression is to look increasingly out of his depth.
 
No to Shaw. Coentrao please. Hope we miss out on shaw bigtime.
 
When most footballers become professionals they don't seem to bother about who they support, and rightly so for the good of their careers.

You certainly can't rule out young players moving on after a while though. Ashley Cole was slated across the country for his move across town to Chelsea, but the decision was absolutely vindicated. He was a lifelong Arsenal fan and was used to success there, but he got a whiff of something stale at the club and moved on to a club where he's won much more than he would have at Arsenal. Part of the reason we need to emerge from this slump ASAP is to stop this situation happening with some of our lads.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
All he'd have to do is run his contract down. I suspect he feels United would be good for his development 'til he reaches his mid twenties, then he'll favour a move to his boyhood club.
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:lol:

You can find a negative in everything. It's an awesome quality really.
 
KM said:
:lol:

You can find a negative in everything. It's an awesome quality really.
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How? I've an inkling he may harvest some hope of playing for his boyhood club eventually? It's a fairly logical view to have, hardly negative for feck sake.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
How? I've an inkling he may harvest some hope of playing for his boyhood club eventually? It's a fairly logical view to have, hardly negative for feck sake.
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Yes and you said that if he signs for us, then he can develop for five years and then run out his contract to join Chelsea. Not negative at all.
 
Ubik said:
He's literally not, and certainly won't be in his mid-twenties when his devious plan is scheduled for fruition.
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He's a devious kid isn't he?

Joining United for 30m and then going to his beloved club Chelsea for free after developing here for five years. True Chelsea fan.
 
There's loads of examples of players who supported one PL club as a kid, only to end up signing for another. How many of them up sticks and move to their boyhood club as soon as they hit their mid-twenties?

At least, if they do, we're flipping sorted. We'll have Aaron Ramsey here in another couple of years. Plenty more like him too.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
There's loads of examples of players who supported one PL club as a kid, only to end up signing for another. How many of them up sticks and move to their boyhood club as soon as they hit their mid-twenties?

At least, if they do, we're flipping sorted. We'll have Aaron Ramsey here in another couple of years. Plenty more like him too.
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I'm waiting for EBJT to up sticks and come play for his boyhood club - us. I imagine I'll be waiting a while.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
He was a lifelong Arsenal fan and was used to success there, but he got a whiff of something stale at the club and moved on to a club where he's won much more than he would have at Arsenal.
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He didn't sniff anything let alone your bullshit. We chiselled him for £5K/week on an agreed deal and he not unreasonably got pissed off and left.
 
peterstorey said:
He didn't sniff anything let alone your bullshit. We chiselled him for £5K/week on an agreed deal and he not unreasonably got pissed off and left.
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:lol: Must have hit a nerve there. You were doing said chiseling after a trophyless season at a time the rich boys across the city had just won consecutive titles and were after a left back. I think we can safely say 8 seasons on the milk has turned. It was a great move for his career.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
I think we'll sign him, we could be the best club for him at this stage in his career. I'm confident he will eventually join Chelsea though, so £30 million is steep if we're to only have him for five or six seasons rather than ten or eleven.
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I'm curious to know what you're basing this on?
 
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