Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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He'd be a great signing, but if Moyes is to go with Smalling and Jones as our centre back partnership with Rafael playing right back, we'd have a very inexperienced back line.
 
So let's not read too much into him tweeting about Chelsea? Or the fact he tweeted 3x about the. United match and only once about Chelsea, he is 3 times more likely to sign for us? That's some Benitez Logic right there!
 
I hope he squashes all the straws caftards are clutching on by signing for Chelsea... we do not need him and this obsession with him, even for 27 million or whatever, is a pest.
 
Ah but he was at United once. Remember when the club website announced that we'd signed him from Cardiff? Somebody must have a screenshot of that.

They announced we had agreed a fee with Cardiff, not that he was signed.
 
I hope he squashes all the straws caftards are clutching on by signing for Chelsea... we do not need him and this obsession with him, even for 27 million or whatever, is a pest.

Who do we need at left-back? Do we need somebody in your opinion at all?
 
Got him £27m 85k a week in the papers tomorrow. Been a huge admirer of this kid and have been watching Southampton just to scout him. He'll eventually be the best left back in the world.

Do you have inside info or just a really annoying and smug turn of phrase?
 
He'd be a great signing, but if Moyes is to go with Smalling and Jones as our centre back partnership with Rafael playing right back, we'd have a very inexperienced back line.
I'd be comfortable with Evans in for Jones because the former is not only more experienced but is better in the build up from the back . Smalling-Evans-Rafael are hugely experienced .
 
Rooney was pretty much the only high profile player I could remember and even at that, if Fergie had stayed on for a few more years, Rooney wanted to leave and might have done so last summer. There's probably more evidence to show Shaw will probably not be at LB at United for the next 15yrs, than there is that he would.
Not a reason not to splurge on him btw, just wanted to point out that the xxx position sorted for the next 15 years doesn't usually work that way, either by the player leaving or someone better coming along. Of course, fingers crossed on players like De Gea and Januzaj

I wasn't really replying to your actual point, just answering your question about expensive teenagers who stayed with the buying club for a long time. I think Ramos is just as good an example as Rooney, incidentally, since it seems highly likely he'll stay with Madrid for the rest of his career, which could put him there for 15, 16 years in total.
 
I'd be comfortable with Evans in for Jones because the former is not only more experienced but is better in the build up from the back . Smalling-Evans-Rafael are hugely experienced .

True, but I personally wouldn't leave out Jones. I think he should be the defender we build our back line around.
 
Manchester United boss David Moyes plans Saints swoop for Lallana and Shaw
DAVID MOYES is planning a double raid for Southampton duo Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw as he begins to rebuild Manchester United.

Under-fire Moyes is ready to spend a large chunk of an estimated £150million transfer kitty he has been promised over the next 18 months to take the young England stars to Old Trafford.

Southampton will fight to keep the highly-rated pair – and will demand top money if anybody wants to prise them away.

Moyes is already close to winning the race for £20m-rated Shaw after Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho started to have second thoughts about bidding for the player.

Shaw had set his heart on a move to his boyhood heroes but it appears that Mourinho – who appeared to be keen – is cooling.

Lallana has a price tag of £15m-plus but is one player who has really caught the eye this season.

He is set to be part of England’s World Cup campaign in Brazil and United would like to push through a deal before the tournament kicks off in June.

The fear within Old Trafford is that the price for Lallana could rocket if he has a good tournament and other clubs become interested.

Mourinho had been linked with Shaw but he would prefer to spend his money on strengthening his strike force.

That has opened the door for United, who are keen to make sure the mistakes of last summer – when they signed only Marouane Fellaini from Moyes’ former club Everton for £27.5m – are not repeated.

They missed out on Gareth Bale, despite matching Real Madrid’s world record offer, but consider Shaw to be an ideal replacement for out-of-contract star Patrice Evra. Moyes also wants to strengthen his midfield.

United are in danger of missing out on the Champions League for the first time in 19 seasons but are ready to suffer the financial implications for one season as long as they see progress.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...Moyes-plans-Saints-swoop-for-Lallana-and-Shaw

Also, Luke Shaw has started following Phil Neville on Twitter. Pretty much a done deal then.
 
Lallana? We don't need him ffs! What is Moyes going to do? Sell Kagawa and buy Lallana or what? I am really not looking forward to the transfer window! We'll chase top players all summer and then in the end again sign someone who is not better than what we already have!
 
Lallana? We don't need him ffs! What is Moyes going to do? Sell Kagawa and buy Lallana or what? I am really not looking forward to the transfer window! We'll chase top players all summer and then in the end again sign someone who is not better than what we already have!

He's a winger isn't he ? Not a fan of his or so, but if he is, then I can see three possible candidates he could replace.
In before Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj. Just no.
 
Yeah, but he would play instead of Kagawa if Mata plays as a 10, right? Seriously, we should only replace our wingers with the likes of Reus or Moura, if we can't get them then there's no need to waste money on players who are hardly going to improve us.
 
He's not a slouch, but he isn't quick. I'd rather us go in for a top class winger with pace to retain some balance in our attack, and never, ever have Lallana replace Kagawa. Also, he's very much a Kagawa type of 'winger'- he constantly looks to come inside and dictate play.
 
Shaw? Yes please. Lallana? Can't say he excites me, i don't think Moyes would be daft enough to risk what is essentially his future by buying players like him. He needs quality, and i think he knows it.
 
We would end up signing a lot of players if we signed everyone who is better than Ashley Young. And I am not sure if Lallana's Southampton's form is better than the form Young showed for Aston Villa.

He's shown to be a better quality player than the Villa Young IMO. Much better player.

If Lallana doesn't start at the world cup I'd be shocked. Put him in a team that creates better runs and movement and he'll make it look easy. He oozes quality. Young played in an O'neil team and put deliveries in whilst on the break. Lallana can do that and the build up play. His link up with Rodriguez and Lambert is one of the best in the league.

Liverpool should go after him. Easily worth £20 Million.
 
He's shown to be a better quality player than the Villa Young IMO. Much better player.

If Lallana doesn't start at the world cup I'd be shocked. Put him in a team that creates better runs and movement and he'll make it look easy. He oozes quality. Young played in an O'neil team and put deliveries in whilst on the break. Lallana can do that and the build up play. His link up with Rodriguez and Lambert is one of the best in the league.

Liverpool should go after him. Easily worth £20 Million.
I agree, but I don't think we should.
 
I quite like the idea of signing Lallana. It seems likely we will sell Young and Nani (and Giggs to retire), so we need another option or two to come in. If we are to play with two attacking midfielders, then it would make sense to have 3 in the squad - and Lallana is more suited to starting from wide than Mata or Kagawa. He's also versatile and would give us loads of options. He looks good in a 3 man midfield too. I imagine he could be used in CM at least when we're chasing a game in the final minutes, and potentially even from the start in a Giggs-like role. Plus we could very easily play Kagawa-Mata-Lallana in a 3 behind Rooney on occasion. That would be capable of some sublime passing football.
 
He's shown to be a better quality player than the Villa Young IMO. Much better player.

If Lallana doesn't start at the world cup I'd be shocked. Put him in a team that creates better runs and movement and he'll make it look easy. He oozes quality. Young played in an O'neil team and put deliveries in whilst on the break. Lallana can do that and the build up play. His link up with Rodriguez and Lambert is one of the best in the league.

Liverpool should go after him. Easily worth £20 Million.

Young was also a must to start for England in their last tournament to be fair, was also England's best player around that time.
 
What makes you say that? Have I missed something? Don't get me exited!

Because Moyes has made it clear there are going to be substantial changes this summer with new players coming in and others leaving. Young, aside from Anderson, is our shittest outfield player, so it seems fairly obvious he will leave.
 
Young was also a must to start for England in their last tournament to be fair, was also England's best player around that time.

At one point, so was Townsend. Townsend is a bit shit bar the fact he can run quickly. Lallana is different because he has more to his game than just pace. Fair enough, Young has shown he has good delivery but Lallana has shown that plus much more.

I don't like Young, even when he was getting assists in his first season with us I would still find ways to criticise him tbf :lol:. To me, he was average (for us) but popped up with a good ball or a goal to redeem himself a bit. Now, he does feck all and his lack of quality shows.
 
How much would a double swoop be? We're realistically looking at 45-50m aren't we?
 
Because Moyes has made it clear there are going to be substantial changes this summer with new players coming in and others leaving. Young, aside from Anderson, is our shittest outfield player, so it seems fairly obvious he will leave.
Fair enough. I still have some doubts considering how often he is used by Moyes but hopefully it’s true.
 
Because Moyes has made it clear there are going to be substantial changes this summer with new players coming in and others leaving. Young, aside from Anderson, is our shittest outfield player, so it seems fairly obvious he will leave.

It will be difficult to sell Young with his wages.
 
It will be difficult to sell Young with his wages.

Supposed wages.

If he's not in the first team plans he will earn less (appearances fees) and if we sell him he will get some of his loyalty bonus. So financially it's not such a big deal for him to leave.
 
At one point, so was Townsend. Townsend is a bit shit bar the fact he can run quickly. Lallana is different because he has more to his game than just pace. Fair enough, Young has shown he has good delivery but Lallana has shown that plus much more.

I don't like Young, even when he was getting assists in his first season with us I would still find ways to criticise him tbf :lol:. To me, he was average (for us) but popped up with a good ball or a goal to redeem himself a bit. Now, he does feck all and his lack of quality shows.

Townsend is a bit rubbish. That said, I see a lot of Robben in him, I think if he had the self-belief he could go on to become a similar player. I can appreciate he is miles off it now and never likely to achieve it - but his game is similarly simplistic. He can run with the ball, cut in and shoot. Right now he doesn't do it all very well, but who knows.
 
Does anyone think his signing and losing Evra would be asking for trouble, or is he capable of coming in and straight into the team as first choice? I aint seen enough of him to make a judgment, but in my eyes an 18 yr old at LB is asking for trouble, and keeping Evra on for another season as competition would be a good idea?
 
Does anyone think his signing and losing Evra would be asking for trouble, or is he capable of coming in and straight into the team as first choice? I aint seen enough of him to make a judgment, but in my eyes an 18 yr old at LB is asking for trouble, and keeping Evra on for another season as competition would be a good idea?

I'm desperate for Evra to stay on and help the new LB ease into his role.
 
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