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Utterly shit reasoning.

England overhype EVERYONE. The way the media talk you would think Sturridge and Sterling were better then Coutiniho and Suarez. Dont rate luke shaw anything more then a solid player.
 
England overhype EVERYONE. The way the media talk you would think Sturridge and Sterling were better then Coutiniho and Suarez. Dont rate luke shaw anything more then a solid player.

Coutinho couldn't get in the Liverpool squad and Suarez is known as England's best player. Not getting into the England team at 18 is nothing to insult a player about.
 
Coutinho couldn't get in the Liverpool squad and Suarez is known as England's best player. Not getting into the England team at 18 is nothing to insult a player about.

But it is when that so called LB would be our starter
 
As I've mentioned in the Twitter thread, don't be shocked at the prices quoted for Shaw. These are package prices and not an upfront price.

Clearly Southampton will want future profits from an 18 year potential superstar. There are no doubt a lot of clauses that will increase the value potential to 27-34 million, whatever we end up paying.

I'd guess a figure of around 20 million would be upfront then club/international appearances, trophies etc would have values added to them.
 
As I've mentioned in the Twitter thread, don't be shocked at the prices quoted for Shaw. These are package prices and not an upfront price.

Clearly Southampton will want future profits from an 18 year potential superstar. There are no doubt a lot of clauses that will increase the value potential to 27-34 million, whatever we end up paying.

I'd guess a figure of around 20 million would be upfront then club/international appearances, trophies etc would have values added to them.

Fair point.
 
That's hard to gauge at this stage, if he gives us 10 years of service then it could be a bargain. If he ends up a crock then it would be a disaster, surely that's up in the air.

I know he's shown lots of potential, but this would make him our most expensive signing ever. A left back.
 
I know he's shown lots of potential, but this would make him our most expensive signing ever. A left back.

Mata was £37m. I have a feeling his reign as our most expensive signing will be short-lived.
 
£30m ---- £34m....what's the difference really?

I would of paid £40m for a peak Ashley Cole 8-10 years ago, just because he got stolen doesn't mean all fullbacks will be. Whether he ends on that level is another things, but he has the potential.
 
feckload of money to pay in a one horse race. Oh well. Price of doing business and all that.
 
As I've mentioned in the Twitter thread, don't be shocked at the prices quoted for Shaw. These are package prices and not an upfront price.

Clearly Southampton will want future profits from an 18 year potential superstar. There are no doubt a lot of clauses that will increase the value potential to 27-34 million, whatever we end up paying.

I'd guess a figure of around 20 million would be upfront then club/international appearances, trophies etc would have values added to them.

Agreed. If we end up paying the full amount, he will have demonstrated over the years he was worth it in performances/success.
 
Jesus £34m is a lot of cash for a left back. I think he will be a quality signing though he will be worth the cash in the long run.
 
Still a good price. If we can pay Soton like we did Everton, in installments over a period, It'd be fine.

Coentrao went to Madrid for £26-27m in 2011.
 
Funny how his move is suddenly back in the news now that he's gonna be on the pitch tomorrow.
 
Lunacy. We've £30 million to spend on a left back but not on our midfield? Stinks of desperation.
 
This is partly why the English national team is so shite. When 18 year old back up LBs for the national team are being quoted at 30 plus million. Most clubs would say feck off and buy a couple of continental or south american full backs for the same price
 
I'd pay £34m for Shaw if everything on that page is true and Suarez also leaves the PL.
 
Ridiculous price but I was expecting us to overpay a lot this transfer window. Hopefully we'll make up for it in other deals such as Depay and Blind who probably are more eager to play for us considering we have the RVP and Van Gaal factor. Having said that I think Shaw will be excellent for us, fair play to Southampton for milking out such as price though if the rumours are to be believed.
 
£34m is only a waste of money if it stops us investing elsewhere. If we spend £34m on a left back and then say that's all we can spend on transfers this year then yes, be outraged. If we spend the same again on a couple of midfielders then there's no problem.

It's an awfully large weight to rest on an 18 year old's shoulders though. Look at Fellaini and Andy Carroll - the pressure which comes with big money moves can harm your development.
 
Have never understood why people have an issue on how much money we spend on players. It's not my or your money, so why should it matter? If that's what it takes to sign Shaw I have no issue with it.
 
£34m is only a waste of money if it stops us investing elsewhere. If we spend £34m on a left back and then say that's all we can spend on transfers this year then yes, be outraged. If we spend the same again on a couple of midfielders then there's no problem.

It's an awfully large weight to rest on an 18 year old's shoulders though. Look at Fellaini and Andy Carroll - the pressure which comes with big money moves can harm your development.
It wasn't really the money that made them look crap.
 
Have never understood why people have an issue on how much money we spend on players. It's not my or your money, so why should it matter? If that's what it takes to sign Shaw I have no issue with it.

Agreed, kind of. Especially when you consider that any deal will be structured over perhaps a 3 or 4 year period. Having said that an expensive flop is fairly embarrassing for fans, see: Torres, Fellaini, Carroll
 
Luke Shaw more expensive than Eden Hazard. :lol:

£27m was already a ludicrous sum. £34m is ready made, world class type money for an attacking player not a bloody LB!
 
It wasn't really the money that made them look crap.

I dunno, Carroll did alright at Liverpool, just not £35m worth of alright.

If he had cost £8m he would have been given more time.

Fellaini at any price has not been value however.
 
Agreed, kind of. Especially when you consider that any deal will be structured over perhaps a 3 or 4 year period. Having said that an expensive flop is fairly embarrassing for fans, see: Torres, Fellaini, Carroll

I'd say people care partly because of opportunity cost, but when it comes to the specific fee (as in "If Southampton want £35 mil. they can do one, but I'd take him for £27 mil.") it's to do with not wanting to get laughed at by other fans if the player flops.
 
The main thing in all of this is LVG wants him. I'd be very uncomfortable with the idea that Woodward is following up on Moyes' targets.
 
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