Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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Even if everything was already sorted, we'd probably agree with him not to announce until after, so as to not create a distraction for the England squad. I doubt he wants to piss Hodgson off by publicly making a big money move just before the tournament when Hodgson specifically asked his players to avoid that sort of thing.

I thought he wanted it all done before the tournament, so there was no messing about during it?
 
I thought he wanted it all done before the tournament, so there was no messing about during it?

No, he didn't want any messing about at all once the team got together and started training. We're well past that threshold. He admitted that he couldn't actually stop players from taking phone calls etc, but he's banned agents from hotels and training camps and he made it clear that ideally he'd like the players to completely refrain from that stuff until after the tournament.
 
No, he didn't want any messing about at all once the team got together and started training. We're well past that threshold. He admitted that he couldn't actually stop players from taking phone calls etc, but he's banned agents from hotels and training camps and he made it clear that ideally he'd like the players to completely refrain from that stuff until after the tournament.

If he thinks Lallana and Shaw will have their minds fully on the job with such big moves pending, he's seriously out of touch.
 
If he thinks Lallana and Shaw will have their minds fully on the job with such big moves pending, he's seriously out of touch.

That's what I'm thinking, well it's not quite what I'm thinking. But surely if he did agree a move with us then it will be best to have it out in the open as there won't be a cloud hanging around him with all the uncertainty etc and he can just focus on his job for England.
 
I just want him signed up ASAP!!

I think we just need that first signing to get the ball rolling, once we get the first one in the rest will follow in quick succession. At least I hope so anyway.
 
That's what I'm thinking, well it's not quite what I'm thinking. But surely if he did agree a move with us then it will be best to have it out in the open as there won't be a cloud hanging around him with all the uncertainty etc and he can just focus on his job for England.

Yep, we seemed to have done a good job getting this on the table so early weeks back, and it's just really stalled from there.

Everyone can breathe easily once it's done. And Southampton will have an enormous pot for their new manager.

Although they're going to have a similar, albeit it much lesser scale, problem to us shortly. Everyone will know they have a stack of money, so prices will all rise.

£50m + for Shaw and Lallana, another 20m + potentially between Lovren and Lambert...
 
I have no problem with us paying for potential but I just don't see that world class potential with Shaw. Hope I am wrong of course but imo there are better young full backs available who wouldn't cost as much as Shaw,

Who comes to mind?
 
Who comes to mind?

Bernat has looked better the few times I've seen him and he's only 21. Rodriguez is also supposed to be brilliant (not seen much of him) and he's quite young. Then there's Kolasinac who's a bit like Shaw in that he's better defensively. I don't think Shaw is better than any of them and none of them will cost 30m.
 
No, you pretty much exclusively just turn up in any transfer thread which isn't about Fellaini or Gareth Barry and write 'do not want' to WUM. Often again and again in the same thread. I'd echo Genius Me's threadban question @Damien. At the very least.
Incorrect. I really wanted Fabregas, Coentrao, Mata and Thiago and have posted as such several times in those threads.

Shocking behaviour from some of you after I simply replied to a question posted in here. Committed a crime for not being a transfer muppet...
 
Bernat has looked better the few times I've seen him and he's only 21. Rodriguez is also supposed to be brilliant (not seen much of him) and he's quite young. Then there's Kolasinac who's a bit like Shaw in that he's better defensively. I don't think Shaw is better than any of them and none of them will cost 30m.
Even Alberto Moreno who can play all along the left wing but is primarily a left back. He was in the preliminary 30 man Spanish NT squad for the world cup but failed to make the final cut.
 
We're an English club built on young lads from our academy and top young. British talent from across the country - this sort of signing is made for us. I'd be more than happy to spend a little more on securing Shaw rather than fill up with foreigners in our time of need. Don't want to end up like City.
 
We always end up with these long sagas whenever we're linked with a good player. Why are we so bad at just sealing deals up quickly? Media saying we're the only interested party, we're offering 30m and 100k a week and yet this looks like it's going to stretch until after the world cup. If we can't wrap up this type of signing quickly then what about other players who are wanted by every other top club out there?
 
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It's not you. It's f ucking incredibly tough to sign anybody good in a wired-in/real time arena.
 
It's not you. It's f ucking incredibly tough to sign anybody good in a wired-in/real time arena.

This.

In fairness, it's not just United, no club has really done business yet. The top players are generally focused on the World Cup.

Virtually all the (transfer) action will happen in July /August.
 
Bernat has looked better the few times I've seen him and he's only 21. Rodriguez is also supposed to be brilliant (not seen much of him) and he's quite young. Then there's Kolasinac who's a bit like Shaw in that he's better defensively. I don't think Shaw is better than any of them and none of them will cost 30m.

How many of those help us with the English quota, though?
 
How many of those help us with the English quota, though?
We won't have a problem with that anyway, we have a few upcoming english player who could potentially have a role in the team in the future.
 
People have to stop comparing Lambert's transfer process to Shaw's. Lambert, at his age, got his chance to play for a his dream club will of course grab this opportunity as soon as there is an interest. He can't afford to wait after World Cup which Liverpool might already go for alternative targets. While Shaw, he is young and have much more options than Lambert. I am not saying Shaw is hanging up himself in the market but just that he knows he got more time to think than Lambert.

So to say, Lambert needs Liverpool more than Liverpool needs him while Shaw is the other way round.
 
Can't believe MEN still refer to Thiago as a major transfer target.
 
We won't have a problem with that anyway, we have a few upcoming english player who could potentially have a role in the team in the future.
We'll have loads of English squad players anyway due to a big academy.
 
I'm hoping we agree personal terms with him and a fee with the club, he can have his medical after the world cup.
This is what I'm hoping too. I'm not panicking though. Clubs we might be competing with for him seem to have other targets and I reckon the fee we have offered will be too much for Southampton to turn down.
 
We have always traditionally paid big money for the top English/British talent going, and I see no problem with that. If Shaw becomes our first choice LB for the next 10 years then £30m will look like a bargain.

We could effectively have 3 of our back four as the first choice England defenders - plus the likes of Evans and Rafael. It's meant to be a new era for the club and all that, so we want to be signing players for the long term.
 
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/arti...ckie-lambert-1592309.aspx#1Gqc9LIMhBsivguG.99

This is the part that may interest MU fans.

"We are staying true to our plan and vision and, as a result, we have no need to accept any offers. We are deep in the process of appointing a new manager who will continue to move our club forward. It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the new manager is in place."
 
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/arti...ckie-lambert-1592309.aspx#1Gqc9LIMhBsivguG.99

This is the part that may interest MU fans.

"We are staying true to our plan and vision and, as a result, we have no need to accept any offers. We are deep in the process of appointing a new manager who will continue to move our club forward. It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the new manager is in place."
With the exception of Lambert to Liverfool. :lol:
 
They just know we are desperate now. Not only do we need players but Woody needs a big signing, and also wants to look like he can wrap up deals quickly after last summers balls-up. I don't blame them for making life difficult with our Shaw bid.
 
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/arti...ckie-lambert-1592309.aspx#1Gqc9LIMhBsivguG.99

This is the part that may interest MU fans.

"We are staying true to our plan and vision and, as a result, we have no need to accept any offers. We are deep in the process of appointing a new manager who will continue to move our club forward. It remains our preference not to partake in any transfers until the new manager is in place."

Yet they sold Rickie because "he really wanted this move".. so if Luke "really really wants this move" to us then they'll have no option right?
 
Yet they sold Rickie because "he really wanted this move".. so if Luke "really really wants this move" to us then they'll have no option right?

or could be that they don't rate Lambert as highly as Lallana and Shaw?
 
To be fair, going off the wording of that quote, it could just as easily mean they'll only be announcing the Shaw sale once the new manager is announced. I'm pretty confident this one will go through after the WC.
 
or could be that they don't rate Lambert as highly as Lallana and Shaw?

Obviously.. but end of the day player power in the end will tell.. if both Lallana and Shaw want a move away they'll force it (not that I agree with that sort of thing).
 
Obviously.. but end of the day player power in the end will tell.. if both Lallana and Shaw want a move away they'll force it (not that I agree with that sort of thing).

But why would they need to force the move when the statement doesn't even suggest that they won't be sold?

They're just saying that it'll be held up until a new manager is appointed.
 
But why would they need to force the move when the statement doesn't even suggest that they won't be sold?

They're just saying that it'll be held up until a new manager is appointed.

I know that.. I'm just suggesting like in the statement they say, they are in no need to accept any offers etc, if they did (which nothing suggests they are) playing hard ball then the players could force moves if it come to it.
 
I can see Moyes being appointed as their manager and then persuades to Shaw to stay.
 
So they don't want to 'partake' in any transfers before a manager is appointed.....but they managed to sell Lambert to liverpool!
 
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