Talks between the clubs resuming today after our innitial bid of 27 million was rejected (all according to BBC) points to the exact opposite. Besides, Guardian and a couple more decent sources have already reported that Shaw is keen to move to United. Absolutely nothing to suggest that Shaw isn't keen.
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Talks between the clubs resuming today after our innitial bid of 27 million was rejected (all according to BBC) points to the exact opposite. Besides, Guardian and a couple more decent sources have already reported that Shaw is keen to move to United. Absolutely nothing to suggest that Shaw isn't keen.
As has been already pointed out there is an issue with the price according to some sources. The Shaw and Lallana deals seem almost identical in that the bids went in around the same time and there has been little reported since in terms of whether the offers were rejected or accepted. What makes you think Liverpool's offer for Lallana was rejected when there have been no such reports? You are simply making things up to back up your opinion.
Sound like a fecking 10 year old.
Meltdown time!
I don't see how so many people are having hissy fits about the shaw transfer "saga" when the transfer window isn't even open yet, let alone the fact he's been tied up with the world cup goings on!!
The Lambert deal was agreed after a day because 1. It occurred AFTER the managerial change 2. It's peanuts money 3. Only media reports that it was "a day" 4. He's a 30+ striker who'll be third choice at Liverpool 5. Dreamed of playing there as a child
As compared with Shaw, who is basically Southampton's jewel and most prized asset. You think if someone came in for your most prized belonging, you just fling it at the first one that offers? Also, from Shaw's end, this next step in his career will probably make the most impact long term in terms of both his development and marketing potential. He gets it right, and he'll be on his way to potential superstardom, get it wrong, and he could fall into an ever growing category of promising young players that made the wrong team choice.
The Lallana deal hasn't gone anywhere either I noticed.
I can't believe we're not in June yet, and some posters are already in meltdown!
Can't blame them really. The press made it sound like Ed was just waiting for the clock to turn 12 to start swiping his credit card. This is what happens when you read too much into the press and have FM installed in your PC.
Yep. Damn those MUTV drones. If only they were all as clued up as you. They're always fecking cheerful and positive too, the non-mindnumbingly negative bastards.
Who has done business? Who?
It's pretty obvious to me, if Chelsea/Mou wanted him, they would have already approached Southampton, they are aware we are bidding for him. I reckon Mourinho would like him at the club but is not willing to spend the money necessary to acquire him, while we are, considering we are in dire need of reinforcements, Chelsea aren't. I also think we offer better terms to Shaw in regards to playing time and wages. If he leaves I reckon it will be to us, just have to convince the Saints to sell.
Who else is going to pay close to 30 million for a left back? He's played well all season and it's just us and possibly Chelsea that are interested.
Bar an injury to Baines he won't play anyway.
Anyone else feels these prices are ridiculous, even 27m was rejected and that too me was overpriced as well.
Can't imagine the figures we're seeing in the media are upfront figures.
Most likely it's the overall package including add ons. When broken down I'm sure the deal will look a lot more attractive to the money conscious fan.
Let's not forget he's an 18 year old Englishman on his way to his first World Cup. He'll be a key figure in the England and United first team for 10-15 years. It's a bargain IMO.
I wouldn't be sure it was rejected.
This has nothing to do with Shaw. Its Southampton holding it up.
Ours is being held up by the price too. If you read in between the lines from that BBC article, we stopped negotiating when they rejected our 27m bid but now we're back.
If we keep not making signings we need because of money, we will just keep losing the best talent around. Nasri and Hazard just to name a couple of recent ones didn't come because we weren't ready to pay agent fees going into the millions.
Can't disagree on the last part, if we have gotten as close as getting the player to agree with us it won't do us any good to haggle over five or six million just as it didn't benefit us to pass up on Hazard because of a few millions . We need a massive upgrade of our starting eleven and we have to pay what it takes for that . Years of consistent underinvestment have caught up with us in a big way .
We're going to get relegated... noooooooooo
You've just made all of this up
That's an insult to 10 year olds!
If people are worried about this signing and Southampton not being bothered just ask yourself this question. How many of their players are worth 25m+ I'd say two that are unsold in Shaw and Lallana. It could be another 10 years before they have players worth that again.
In a business sense it would be silly not to cash in as those prices are probably those players maximum value.
In a business sense it would be silly not to cash in as those prices are probably those players maximum value.
This post sums up the entire transfer forum. Whether it's articles/tweets from clueless journalists making shit up or caftards pretending they watch some obscure league every week and know everything there is to know about a player.You've just made all of this up
loads of them over here
No I haven't you eelYou've just made all of this up
Why do we take so long do make a second bid? Haha even when bidding for Fabregas after the first was rejected it was almost two weeks before the next was submitted.
If Southampton want more, we'd be better of chasing Ricardo Rodriguez.
If Southampton want more, we'd be better of chasing Ricardo Rodriguez.
According to AS, Filipe Luis declined an improved Atletico contract and decided to accept Chelsea offer. Atletico still resist selling him, though. Anyway, it looks more and more that Jose is trying after the Brazilian, which should put a stop to all the 'Shaw to CFC' rumors.
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2014/05/31/primera/1401504967_117420.html
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2014/05/31/primera/1401504967_117420.html
Im surprised Mou is not after Coentrao who is younger.
If Chelsea get Felipe Luiz, I'm very confident we'll get Shaw.
Theirs no value in the market remember. Saints probably want another £500k-£1m and money saving expert Woodward isn't budging.
I've never been so excited at the prospect of Chelsea making a signing.
They are not on the best of terms, apparently.
Is it possible that Woodward is trying hard not to look desperate and doing things steady way ? Over 30 million offer for a teenager is an investment even for sugar daddy clubs.
While preparing a bid, perhaps we're checking other options like you said. Being cautious is not a bad thing, especially when you got full month to official window.
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Luke Shaw .... blah blah blah ......
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-United-move-as-Southampton-chase-replacement
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...-United-move-as-Southampton-chase-replacement
I'll be a very relieved man when this is done.
This is starting to feel like the van gaal appointment, probably done but won't believe it til its confirmed
Incidentally, I reckon Taylor would be a great replacement for them. I haven't really seen much of him recently, mostly because he's had limited game time since that ankle injury, and Ben Davies has provided hot competition for his spot. But he was excellent in 2011-12 and really stood out in the Olympic team, and his battle with Davies has made RB one of Swansea's strongest positions. Ok, he's not got a ceiling as high as Shaw, but he's one of those players who is so solid in his basics that he could probably play at any level of PL club and not look out of place.
LB. I think Davies would be a better signing than Taylor but he would probably cost around double the price. Although Southampton should have a lot of money coming in so might be willing to pay it.
I've read Liverpool will give Southampton 48 hours to decide on whether or not they'll accept their bid for Lallana, and if not, they'll turn to other targets. We should be doing the same if there's any hint of Southampton playing us. What I don't want to see is United getting stringed along and getting taken for a ride when there's no desperate need for a left back at the moment and there's other options outside Shaw to look at. If they're refusing £27m bid, then they can get to feck.
The problem is, we want to sign Shaw more than they want they would want to sell, and by the same token we need to sign him more than they need to sell him, especially if they're getting that price for Lallana. At the end of the day, Southampton hold all the cards right now.
Yeah LB sorry. They're both good, I'd say pretty much equal. Davies only seem like the better player because he's the one who's been getting the game time recently since Taylor's leg break. Davies hasn't put in any performances this season better than Taylor was in his two seasons as first choice. So Taylor would definitely be the better buy because he'd come cheaper, be more willing to move (for game time) and you'd be getting just as good a player, albeit an older one.
TBH I haven't seen much of Taylor since his injury, has he got back to his previous level? If he has then he would be a very good buy for someone like Southampton. Even the fact that he's older isn't a bad thing for them as they have a really young squad as it is so could be with some older players.
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