Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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Sparky Rhiwabon said:
I kind of assumed it had been rejected given that the bid was a couple of weeks ago yet and there has been no more activity since.
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Yeah as far as I was concerned it had been rejected and we'd gone in with/were preparing a second bid.

Give them what they want, he's a must buy in my opinion.

Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Evra has signed on for another year now. Maybe that was after Southampton rejected our bid - remember that Evra was reported to be leaving.
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I really don't think Evra signing a deal for another year has any impact on the Shaw dealings either way.
 
Adnan said:
Any suggestions?
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If all else fails, we can probably grab Ashley Cole*and use him in rotation with Evra for a while. We absolutely should not be held to ransom by Southampton. 27 million is way over the odds for an 18-year-old fullback and if Southampton are rejecting it, then they're unreasonable.

We go again.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
I kind of assumed it had been rejected given that the bid was a couple of weeks ago yet and there has been no more activity since.
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I assumed that was related to Pochettino leaving. Their must have been uncertainty around him for some time behind the scenes. Wouldn't be surprising for them to want to hold onto him until a new manager has been chosen.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
If all else fails, we can probably grab Ashley Young and use him in rotation with Evra for a while. We absolutely should not be held to ransom byu Southampton. 27 million is way over the odds for an 18-year-old fullback and if Southampton are rejecting it, then they're unreasonable.

We go again.
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Is this sarcasm? I really hope this is sarcasm.
 
Ogden, Ducker and co are convinced it is pretty much done. Is that bloke just assuming it was rejected?
 
If we have to pay over the odds to get him then so be it, he's young, he's talented, English and plays in a position we need a signing.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
Ogden, Ducker and co are convinced it is pretty much done. Is that bloke just assuming it was rejected?
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Like I said in the twitter thread, I really don't think he was trying to break any news given the context of his previous tweet, he was just saying that Southampton are willing to play hard ball. Whether he's assuming or guessing, I have no idea.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
If all else fails, we can probably grab Ashley Cole*and use him in rotation with Evra for a while. We absolutely should not be held to ransom by Southampton. 27 million is way over the odds for an 18-year-old fullback and if Southampton are rejecting it, then they're unreasonable.

We go again.
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If they have rejected £27 million for Shaw then I hope we look for alternatives. I hope to god Ashley Young is not one of them, even if you do mean for the short-term.

Ricardo Rodriguez would be a very good alternative but not sure what Wolsfburg would want for him.
 
walsh said:
Like I said in the twitter thread, I really don't think he was trying to break any news given the context of his previous tweet, he was just saying that Southampton are willing to play hard ball. Whether he's assuming or guessing, I have no idea.
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That's what I thought too.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
I typed Young instead of Cole. No, I am not being sarcastic about taking Ashley Cole.
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Well you can understand my confusion at that typo. We aren't signing Cole either way, we already have a veteran left back. If the options are spend £30m+ on Shaw or have another year of Evra and Buttner, I'd give Southampton the cash every time.
 
Sied said:
I assumed that was related to Pochettino leaving. Their must have been uncertainty around him for some time behind the scenes. Wouldn't be surprising for them to want to hold onto him until a new manager has been chosen.
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And quite possibly for another season or two as well, given that he's on a long contract. Shaw may be sold this summer but I seriously doubt Soton will allow a lot of players with several years left on their current deal to leave. The cost to Soton of getting relegated is far too great to take huge risks with the playing staff, having lost their manager. United and Liverpool have already demonstrated that you can keep an unhappy player. Clubs don't have to given in just because players want to leave.
 
walsh said:
Well you can understand my confusion at that typo. We aren't signing Cole either way, we already have a veteran left back. If the options are spend £30m+ on Shaw or have another year of Evra and Buttner, I'd give Southampton the cash every time.
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I don't agree with spending 30 plus million for a player who doesn't strike me as being all that bothered about signing for United. He'll go to Chelsea and we shouldn't be in a bidding war for him when he's so chronically overrated and overpriced.
 
If he wants to come here he'll force a move. £27m is a very, very good offer, and if Southampton are trying to play hardball we should give them an ultimatum (assuming it's true they've rejected the bid).
 
This tweet was in relation to the bid we made a few weeks back, it's pretty clear from the wording "have already". If he was breaking news that they have rejected a second bid I think it would have read "just heard Southampton have rejected Uniteds second bid" rather than stating "we already know". Nothing to see here lads.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
I don't agree with spending 30 plus million for a player who doesn't strike me as being all that bothered about signing for United. He'll go to Chelsea and we shouldn't be in a bidding war for him when he's so chronically overrated and overpriced.
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He's not overrated and would be an inevitable success.
 
kundalini said:
And quite possibly for another season or two as well, given that he's on a long contract. Shaw may be sold this summer but I seriously doubt Soton will allow a lot of players with several years left on their current deal to leave. The cost to Soton of getting relegated is far too great to take huge risks with the playing staff, having lost their manager. United and Liverpool have already demonstrated that you can keep an unhappy player. Clubs don't have to given in just because players want to leave.
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I agree with where you're coming from, but I do think a left back is relatively easily replaceable with a club outside of the real top tier of clubs. No disrespect to the position, but surely they would fight harder to keep the manager, or Lallana for example, simply because players in that type of position can't be replaced easily or cheaply.

I also think that Shaw hasn't been at a level for the past season or two where the team would significantly drop in quality if he left. Don't get me wrong, I rate the lad. But I do think the main reason his price is so high is because of his perceived potential. Shaw's potential hasn't been earning Southampton the results over the past season or two. It's been the performances week in week out, which I don't think have been such an outstanding level yet, that the team would massively suffer if he were replaced with a more run of the mill, mid table full back.
 
According to a article that was written afew days ago by Mark Ogden, Bernat is the back up plan to Shaw.
 
I think Evras contract extension sums it up to be honest.
Chelsea will bid for Shaw and will most probably succeed.
It will be shocking to see Evra start most of our games next season, he's well and truly past it and a liability
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
I don't agree with spending 30 plus million for a player who doesn't strike me as being all that bothered about signing for United. He'll go to Chelsea and we shouldn't be in a bidding war for him when he's so chronically overrated and overpriced.
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How do you know if he is bothered or not.
 
I'm a huge fan of Shaw and all but if Southampton have really rejected a £27m bid for him they can go **** themselves.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
How do you know if he is bothered or not.
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He's a Chelsea fan and hasn't made any of the right noises about United. Don't want a player who'd rather be at Chelsea. Also, the fact you lot think it's acceptable for a club to reject 27 million for an 18-year-old full back and would have us throw more money at the problem is frightening to me.
 
I'd go for Rodríguez although he'd probably be pricey and I'm not sure if he would play for a team without European football.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
He's a Chelsea fan and hasn't made any of the right noises about United. Don't want a player who'd rather be at Chelsea. Also, the fact you lot think it's acceptable for a club to reject 27 million for an 18-year-old full back and would have us throw more money at the problem is frightening to me.
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He hasn't made any noises about United, Chelsea or staying at Southampton. Does that mean he doesn't want to play for any of them? You're reading far too much into media speculation.

Browniee said:
I think Evras contract extension sums it up to be honest.
Chelsea will bid for Shaw and will most probably succeed.
It will be shocking to see Evra start most of our games next season, he's well and truly past it and a liability
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Well apparently Chelsea are after Filipe Luis as well so do you have any reason to think that or are you just being pessimistic?
 
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Some right drama queens in this thread. We know nothing more about this deal than we did this morning.
 
Browniee said:
I think Evras contract extension sums it up to be honest.
Chelsea will bid for Shaw and will most probably succeed.
It will be shocking to see Evra start most of our games next season, he's well and truly past it and a liability
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Evra just took up the option in his contract, we did not offer him a new contract.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
He's a Chelsea fan and hasn't made any of the right noises about United. Don't want a player who'd rather be at Chelsea. Also, the fact you lot think it's acceptable for a club to reject 27 million for an 18-year-old full back and would have us throw more money at the problem is frightening to me.
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You're forgetting about the tweets he's been favouriting and united players that he's been following recently. If they're not the right noises, then I don't know what is.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
Some right drama queens in this thread. We know nothing more about this deal than we did this morning.
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I didn't know that they had rejected our bid for Shaw this morning. I assumed that might be the case but now the BBC has confirmed it.
 
Genius Me! said:
You're forgetting about the tweets he's been favouriting and united players that he's been following recently. If they're not the right noises, then I don't know what is.
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I thought he deleted those accidental favoured tweets or am I mistaken? Who did he start following?
 
AltiUn said:
I'm a huge fan of Shaw and all but if Southampton have really rejected a £27m bid for him they can go **** themselves.
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It was expected. I think they would even reject 35 million from us.

I would go up to 30 mil before telling them to go feck themselves.
 
El-Manos said:
I thought he deleted those accidental favoured tweets or am I mistaken? Who did he start following?
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He wanted noises, I was providing him with some. But his last 3 follows have been Rooney, Jones and Ferdinand.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
He's a Chelsea fan and hasn't made any of the right noises about United. Don't want a player who'd rather be at Chelsea. Also, the fact you lot think it's acceptable for a club to reject 27 million for an 18-year-old full back and would have us throw more money at the problem is frightening to me.
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So let me get this right, you're an anti-muppet (no thanks Shaw, feck off Fabregas etc) but you make exceptions for unproven, deeply mediocre Dutch youngsters?
 
Brightonian said:
So let me get this right, you're an anti-muppet (no thanks Shaw, feck off Fabregas etc) but you make exceptions for unproven, deeply mediocre Dutch youngsters?
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Make exception for? I haven't done so anywhere. As much as I am loathe to do your work for you, I may as well make it clear for others reading the comments. I've expressed an interest in one Dutch player (Daley Blind) and said that we should monitor his performances at the world cup to make a decision on him. The other Dutch players I've mentioned have been those LVG is said to be interested in (Strootman and Clasie).
 
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