Luke Shaw | Deal done! Almost...

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LonelyFire said:
Santon? Really? Poor player. Balotelli? Nut case. Robben and cech were signed while ranieri was in charge and I doubt if Mourinho was in charge he would have signed them. Top players though.

Fair enough on varane.
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I'll have you know that Santon was considered the next the Italian defender like Bergomi or Maldini under Jose's tutelage at Inter. It's not Mourinho's fault that he later suffered horrible injuries and failed to live up to his initial promise.

What does Balotelli's being a nutcase have to do with Jose and encouraging young players ?

So what if they were signed when Ranieri was incharge ? Jose gave them the chance. If he was so opposed to promoting youth as some claim, they'd been fixtures on the Chelsea bench rather than playing substantial roles right away.

Not making a case for Jose but in fairness never really had the chance to promote young players because he's been club-hopping so often. Almost every manager wants to play senior experienced players in the initial years because it's less risky and there's less chance of being fired. Young players are inherently inconsistent and the see-saw performances won't be condoned by the boards of Real or Inter.

I'd 100 % Shaw chooses United but at the same time I can't imagine why a player like Shaw would be deterred by Mourinho when he's almost nailed on to be a starter if he signs for Chelsea. Azpilicueta will shift to his natural role at RB and Ivanovic/ Zouma caan deputize at CB. Simples. Not to mention Shaw has affinity for Chelsea and even though he's a professional they have a good future with the Mourinho at the helm, CL football, Luiz money, London, likes of Hazard, Oscar when he returns to form and maybe even Courtouis. They have a good core for the near term.
 
Raoul said:
I doubt this would be a factor in Shaw's logic. If he joined Chelsea, the only factors would be having previously been a Chelsea fan, his position being vacated by his "idol" Cashley Cole, Chelsea being in the CL and having one of the best manager's in the world.
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not to mention not having to make a 250mile move up north.
 
LonelyFire said:
I completely disagree. The ability of a manger to improve a player will be high on their priority list - that said, the factors you mention are also key.

That said, he won't sign for Chelsea. I'm pretty sure of that.
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If the manager is a factor, there are few to no managers who can squeeze more out of players than Mourinho. Shaw is already an established player, who will probably be sold for £27m, and doesn't need the youth player treatment from his next manager.
 
Raoul said:
If the manager is a factor, there are few to no managers who can squeeze more out of players than Mourinho. Shaw is already an established player, who will probably be sold for £27m, and doesn't need the youth player treatment from his next manager.
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where has this figure come from then?
 
So.its anything between 27 and 30m depending on what day it is and who is reporting.
Like the Luiz bid....they are all different figures
 
It's a ridiculous fee for an 18-year-old fullback whose defensive skills are still in development.
 
peterstorey said:
It's a ridiculous fee for an 18-year-old fullback whose defensive skills are still in development.
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His defensive skills are really good even if you compare them to much more experienced fullbacks. His defensive skills are his best asset.
 
Kill 'em all said:
His defensive skills are really good even if you compare them to much more experienced fullbacks. His defensive skills are his best asset.
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I don't think so, he's still pretty raw. His best assets right now are his attacking pace and Beckham-like ability to get in a telling cross without needing to beat a player.
 
Ekeke said:
Correct. He's much better
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That's just an ill-formed or biased opinion much like the guy who was trying to say Sagna has been largely crap for the last 6 years. Gibbs only issue is his injury record.
 
peterstorey said:
That's just an ill-formed or biased opinion much like the guy who was trying to say Sagna has been largely crap for the last 6 years. Gibbs only issue is his injury record.
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And not being as good as Luke Shaw defensively. Its not an issue, its just reality
 
Looks like Van Gaal gave Woodward a completely different list of players. More proof the media doesn't know shite.

We can now cross Shaw off the list.
 
How long have Skybet been claiming a deal has already been agreed out of interest?

Because it's not like these winds of uncertainty have been blowing for very long, and they're all off the back of that cnut Jackson's article.
 
LR7 said:
You don't either.
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But cantonagiggs1 isn't being paid a very good salary to report what is going on unlike the useless buckets of congealed hippo jizz that make up the sports media, none of who could refrain from printing the first load of bullshit that comes into their head even if I held a gun to their sainted mothers crying face
 
Well, this transfer business is just as, if not more, disappointing than last years so far.
 
Raoul said:
Which is a bit difficult since it hasn't yet begun.
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I know. But even so, the Kroos thing seemed likely to happen and now it is basically 100% not happening. Now the Shaw deal, which appeared 90% likely is in doubt. It's disappointing.
 
peterstorey said:
That's just an ill-formed or biased opinion much like the guy who was trying to say Sagna has been largely crap for the last 6 years. Gibbs only issue is his injury record.
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I don't think Gibbs is better in term of defending than Shaw or Shaw is nowhere near. Shaw is very good and also intelligence in defense. The way how he stop Januzaj without having any hard time show something. Januzaj is a skillful player which can bullied any full back easily unless if they are really a top class full back.

Even in term of attacking threat they are similar, may be Gibbs is slightly better in attack due of more pace. But Shaw can improved significantly in the future. He's still 18 years old.
 
Well, any chance it will happen today? Seems like there is no further news from the Media I guess we might have to wait another week.
 
ZDwyr said:
I know. But even so, the Kroos thing seemed likely to happen and now it is basically 100% not happening. Now the Shaw deal, which appeared 90% likely is in doubt. It's disappointing.
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You believe too much in the media, this is gonna be a long summer for you.How about waiting official statements before getting really frustrated or excited ?
 
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