City are so interested that they ran away the moment they learned about the potential price. We're the only one really interested it seems and the fact we want him badly inflates the price. Same should apply in Inter-Lukaku's case. They're willing to pay £70m. Let's see if they can go up a notch. We seem to be excited everytime somebody wants on of our players and just accept anything.
He's definitely not worth 100m in the market at all especially after last season.
He is, strikers are worth more, he had 2 different managers with different opinions last season, still young and Belgium's scorer, this is the market we are in, he is an excellent striker if you play to his strengths but that is not what we want to do with Ole.
Which big club would pay 100 mil for a player who can't control a ball?
Who cares what club, he has attributes if you play to his strengths to score a lot of goals, his record is not in question, but the market is what it is, he is prime age a valuable attacking asset and we are being quoted inflated fees for everything we sniff around.
Because Lukaku has made it reasonably clear he’d like to go, so our bargaining position is reduced. Meanwhile, many of our targets haven’t publicly stated they want to come here, Maguire for example.Who cares what club, he has attributes if you play to his strengths to score a lot of goals, his record is not in question, but the market is what it is, he is prime age a valuable attacking asset and we are being quoted inflated fees for everything we sniff around.
Who cares what club, he has attributes if you play to his strengths to score a lot of goals, his record is not in question, but the market is what it is, he is prime age a valuable attacking asset and we are being quoted inflated fees for everything we sniff around.
No club that can afford £80m would contemplate playing to his strengths.
We need to start repeating this mantra as a fan base.
We massively overpaid for Lukaku. Just because we were insane enough to pay that amount for him, does not mean that another club will do the same. We certainly aren’t going to make a profit, and probably not even break even. Something close would be satisfactory.
The price we paid for him was madness from the beginning.
I can see him going & then Ole announcing he is happy with Rashford & Greenwood as our strikers for the season.
I know some are giddy to see him go, the same with Pogba, but I just do not think we have credible (or any) replacements lined up.
Of course they would. They're not us, where we try and place square pegs in round holes.
No he's not. His form of last 2 seasons at United aren't of a 100m striker. He hasn't exceeded 16 goals in the league his last 2 seasons and had pretty long periods without scoring in both. He was even reduced to the bench by the end of last season for Rashford, and will remain as a bench option most probably if he stayed. Nothing to make any team pay that much for him.
70-80m at best. If we get what we paid for him as an offer I'll take it and run, no one will be mad enough to offer any more.
No club that can afford £80m would contemplate playing to his strengths.
What is his real value?
If we get £70-80m with the majority up front I would take that to cover a replacement that suits the way we want to play, yes we are in a negative position because his form was not great, the team was a mess with Mourinho, and then Ole came in and did'nt want to play to the way he offers, but he is still a highly valuable goalscoring attacking asset, inter are being scabby cnuts trying to take advantage of his form during managerial changes and the fact they know we do not want to play with this type of striker, is he actually worth £100m, who gives a feck, that is the market
Difference is that Lukuku has already been relegated to a squad player. Pogba (no matter his issues), is a first team player and only outfield player that can be considered World Class. It might ultimately be better for the team if Pogba goes (for the greater good), but there’s no doubting his talent.
Quite frankly replacing Lukuku who scored 1 goal in 23 games against the top 6 internally is more than achievable.
The only sort of teams that would play to Likuku’s “Strengths” are of the quality of Everton at best - he works at a lower PL league club because they play on the back foot without possession a lot of the time, and also he can go on his long barren runs and it’s not noticed.
Those types of clubs don’t have £80m to spend.
Realistically these are the clubs that could spend £80m on a striker...
Man Utd
City
Liverpool
Spurs
Chelsea (if not for ban)
Bayern
Athletico Madrid
Real Madrid
Barcelona
PSG
Juventus
Napoli
Inter
Inter are the only club who would actually want him, I might even concede Napoli, but I doubt they could afford him.
Can you really see anyone else actually wanting Lukuku as their striker? I can’t.
I would say around 50-60 million. Both him and Morata were stupidly overpriced.
Juventus paid £90m for higuain a season or 2 ago, aging striker, total flop, who gives a feck.
1. My main point was that top teams are top teams because they play in ways that optimize the qualities of their players.
2. I don't see why he couldn't be courted by Chelsea, Juventus, Napoli, Inter or Atletico. He's had history or has been linked with 3 of these clubs currently or in the past.
Juventus - I’m really trying not to laugh!
Chelsea - have a transfer ban, and yes he would be a potential there as their options are so poor, I stated this earlier.
Napoli - I cant see that they can afford him, their record transfer is still probably Higuaín.
Athletico - a club who have just bought one striking flop in Morata for £50m and spent £100m on Felix don’t have the money or need for Lukuku.
Di Marzio reported that Juventus were interested in Lukaku just a few weeks ago.
Given that your repeated "we'd be lucky to dupe Everton into buying him back for 40m" claims are currently in the process of being proven utterly wrong, you might want to consider the idea that Lukaku (a player you have found the need to repeatedly insult) is someone you underrate.
Di Marzio reported that Juventus were interested in Lukaku just a few weeks ago.
Given that your repeated "we'd be lucky to dupe Everton into buying him back for 40m" claims are currently in the process of being proven utterly wrong, you might want to consider the idea that Lukaku (a player you have found the need to repeatedly insult) is someone you underrate.
I can agree with that but no way were Everton going to sell him for that price to a top PL club.
We're bad at selling players so I think this amount is closer to the amount we'll eventually realize.
Your perception of his fee has been blinded by what we paid - which was outrageously excessive. If we had paid £50m for Lukuku 2 years ago, and given his poor record over the past 2 years you would be happy to recoup that initial outlay of £50m.
Juventus paid £90m for higuain a season or 2 ago, aging striker, total flop, who gives a feck, the market is much more inflated now, look we are not going to get £100m for him given the fact everyone knows he is not in our plans, thats the way it works but he is still worth way more than what is being offered, not directed at yourself, but in genaral, I don't understand the negativity about trying to get what is an adequate fee for a valuable attacking asset when so many on here are giving it shit that we don't get adequate fees for what players we are selling are acutally worth.
Of course they would. They're not us, where we try and place square pegs in round holes.
He's worth what clubs are willing to pay and no club that could afford £80m would contemplate spending that for Lukaku.
Using one of the worst transfers of all time as a transfer barometer for all transfers is cynical.
I didn't mean they wouldn't play to his strengths once purchasing him. I meant no club that could afford an £80m striker would want to employ a system that suits Lukaku.
There's a obvious reason City, Liverpool, Barcelona, Madrid, PSG & Bayern aren't interested.
Because Lukaku has made it reasonably clear he’d like to go, so our bargaining position is reduced. Meanwhile, many of our targets haven’t publicly stated they want to come here, Maguire for example.
We are really playing catch-up this window and we have to back Ole having given him the job. It’s going to cost us a premium to get competitive again, no matter who our manager is.
Who else would even entertain buying Lukuku for £70m+? I can’t think of a single club*.
* noting @BrianMcClair'sBarnet point that Chelsea might have been a rival of it wasn’t for the ban.
The general mood in Italy seems to be Inter are now very pessimistic about this. They will need to fly back to China to ask the owner if he'd be willing to go that high and by the time he makes a decision it will be 2020 anyways
The general mood in Italy seems to be Inter are now very pessimistic about this. They will need to fly back to China to ask the owner if he'd be willing to go that high and by the time he makes a decision it will be 2020 anyways
As much as he struggled here last year, the fact that we've bought an out and out winger and will arguably try Dalot out right ie two crossing wide men. Surely a decent header like him is worth another season if were getting player plus cash nonsense offers.
Has he really got a poor attitude though? His failings are, as you say, technical. Otherwise they stem from lack of confidence due to self-knowledge of those technical failings and a general clumsy haplessness.If Inter came up with an offer of £70m without any load deal we would snap off their hands.
As stated above Leicester want to keep Maguire, he’s one of their best players and integral to their side. On the other hand we are at best indifferent to keeping Lukuku, but most likely want him gone because of his technical failings and poor attitude. The comparison between the two situations are like night and day.
