Lukaku or Morata?

Who do you prefer?

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Morata was better than Benzema last season, he's more than ready to start for a top team. Maybe he won't score as much as Lukaku but he'll make those all around him better, he's very good at everything a striker needs to be good at. Finishing, hold up play, passing, dribbling, works hard off the ball, etc.. he's 24 and has already scored in Champions League semis and in a final against the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona.

I think a team like Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern would much rather have Morata than Lukaku but for Mourinho's United it's tough to say who would do better. Mourinho likes his counters and his teams to be physically dominant and Lukaku fits the mould, I think they'd both do well and they'll both work well with Griezmann just behind them if he ever goes to Manchester. Morata is the better player but for the same price United would probably be better off getting Lukaku as he's less likely to have problems adapting.
 
As far as strikers go they're weirdly binary, so it makes it a tough choice. Morata is a good all round player who shows up in big games but doesn't have an amazing goal scoring record, while Lukaku isn't great technically, often goes missing in the big games but scores lots of goals elsewhere. I chose Morata, purely because he's impressed me more when I've seen him play. Think he's a very classy player who would've helped our all round attacking game more.
 
Morata would have been better, if previous posts go by but Lukaku isnt a bad player. Holy hell what I'd give us to score those goals.

Come Romelu, you know you want to have the golden boot next season:devil:
 
They're both among the best options in a largely uninspiring pool of possible strikers for us to sign this summer, but none of them are probably at the level we should aspire to, as it stands. Both are in the right age bracket though, and have room for improvement.

If you'd asked me a month ago, I'd probably have said Morata, on account of my hunch that his potential gives him a higher ceiling. But Lukaku feels like much the safer bet, and barring injuries I'm absolutely certain he'll give us 20+ goals in the league. Morata feels like a higher risk, and I'm not sure we're in a position where we should be taking that risk. So, obviously coloured by how this one seems to be turning out for us, I think we've made the right choice.

He's a long way off fixing all our attacking problems though, that's for sure.
 
Dante said:
Morata would bring the best out of Martial, Rashford and Pogba.

But Lukaku better fits the system that Mourinho is familiar with.

To be honest, I'm disappointed that Jose has shown a lack of flexibility to try get the most out of the players already in the squad. He's opted for sticking to what he knows, even if that means overall team-cohesion will suffer.

I don't doubt that we'll be better next season than we were last. Lukaku's a very good player, and the rest of our first XI will perform to a reasonable enough level again. But a lack of ambition from the manager means that we won't get everyone playing to a level that's better than reasonable. That's what's required to win titles: making everybody in your squad play a little bit better than they'd ordinarily be capable of.

I don't believe that using Lukaku as a target man can achieve that. I hope I'm wrong.
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Yes, Lukaku keeps Mourinho in his rough comfort zone, while Morata would demand more of him as manager, in search of the tactical reinvention of himself he so hardly needs.
 
Eckers99 said:
As far as strikers go they're weirdly binary, so it makes it a tough choice. Morata is a good all round player who shows up in big games but doesn't have an amazing goal scoring record, while Lukaku isn't great technically, often goes missing in the big games but scores lots of goals elsewhere. I chose Morata, purely because he's impressed me more when I've seen him play. Think he's a very classy player who would've helped our all round attacking game more.
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He bagged plenty last season vs the top 6, and I'd never really associate him with bottling big games.
 
Difficult choice. It's like deciding between water and nothing.

Alright, I'll have a glass of water, whatever.
 
Lukaku for me. epl proven, deadly infront of goal. We need someone to convert the chances we create and for that reason I want someone clinical.
 
TsuWave said:
I also think Morata has the highest ceiling and I think most people would agree. Morata has the package to be the complete striker and given the opportunity I see him becoming a beast. He's technically great, versatile, can play wide, great in the air, can see and execute a pass and despite being tall he's not slow. Lukaku is hindered by his technical ability or lack thereof, also,players that rely on their physical prowess usually have shorter expiration dates as well. They are not far of each other age wise either, I think Morata is older by months

Morata is just all around better and would offer more than lukaku
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I think most would agree that Morata is the better player technically. But Morata was the striker for the best team in Italy and didn't score many, he has had a relatively good season with Madrid at 15 goals. But look at Lukaku he has scored goals for clubs such as WBA and Everton who can neither claim to be the best in the league. We need a goal scorer not potential (we aren't in the situation where we can wait for ANOTHER player to maybe step up)

The over hyping of Morata is ridiculous just because he plays for Real Madrid, who incidentally only brought him back from Juve because they had a buy back clause and was scared another club was going to buy him. There was talk at the beginning of last season that they had already lined up a buyer to make a hefty profit.

Tl/dr Morata may become a top class striker but he won't be world class. And Lukaku will get us goals in the PL - Morata may be the better player but Lukaku is the better striker
 
Both, they could be interesting together actually, mainly because Morata can bring a bit more speed and directness while Lukaku brings power and physical presence. Not to mention all the space this duo could actually create for the team as well.
 
Lord Megadrive said:
I think most would agree that Morata is the better player technically. But Morata was the striker for the best team in Italy and didn't score many
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Morata often played wide at Juve. Stating he's a better player than Lukaku, all things considered, its not "overrating him because he plays for real madrid", that's a dismissive argument and a childish accusation. Morata currently is a better option than anything we have and imo would be a very good player to lead the line, him having a high ceiling to me its just a bonus.

Personally, I prefer technically gifted players capable of creating for themselves and others rather than players heavily reliant on a system/the team to be set up in a strict way to get the best of them.

People are acting like Lukaku doesn't go on 13 games goaless droughts or something. The dude is wild inconsistent and his numbers are patched up by freak routs everton has had against poor opposition
 
TsuWave said:
Morata often played wide at Juve. Stating he's a better player than Lukaku, all things considered, its not "overrating him because he plays for real madrid", that's a dismissive argument and a childish accusation. Morata currently is a better option than anything we have and imo would be a very good player to lead the line, him having a high ceiling to me its just a bonus.

Personally, I prefer technically gifted players capable of creating for themselves and others rather than players heavily reliant on a system/the team to be set up in a strict way to get the best of them.

People are acting like Lukaku doesn't go on 13 games goaless droughts or something. The dude is wild inconsistent and his numbers are patched up by freak routs everton has had against poor opposition
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All strikers go through a drought. But do you honestly think that a striker who hasn't proved he can score is what we need right now?
 
@TsuWave. How can you claim Morata creates for himself and others when his stats are so low? Where is all of this creation hiding?
Its also laughable that you claim Lukaku needs others and a system to score in when it takes Morata joining the most dominant side in Europe to even post double figures?
Theres only one man riding the wave of his teammates and its not the striker who laughably outscores Morata while finishing 7th.
 
Lord Megadrive said:
All strikers go through a drought. But do you honestly think that a striker who hasn't proved he can score is what we need right now?
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Its not just a drought, lukaku can and has gone through periods like this often, even under martinez, he is inconsistent, his goals come in spurts, x many games without scoring then he's banging back to back hattricks against fodder, so for the emphasis you're putting on goalscoring lukaku might also not be the best solution seeing as we supposedly are not in a position to have "a striker who hasn't proved he can score" despite morata having a top three best minutes per goal ratio in la liga

anyway, I think i have stressed i'd prefer morata over lukaku enough, i don't wanna come off extra down on the imminent signing and at this point i can only hope lukaku does well
 
cyberman said:
@TsuWave. How can you claim Morata creates for himself and others when his stats are so low? Where is all of this creation hiding?
Its also laughable that you claim Lukaku needs others and a system to score in when it takes Morata joining the most dominant side in Europe to even post double figures?
Theres only one man riding the wave of his teammates and its not the striker who laughably outscores Morata while finishing 7th.
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I don't think stats are the be all end all, if you've watched them play its apparent imo, but here:

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left is morata at Juve and right is morata at Real. Metrics are per 90 seeing as Lukaku has like 2.5 times the amount of minutes played by Morata

edit - i apologise for the double post
 
Comparing them is pointless imo. Morata is yet to establish himself as a team's main striker and thus his stats are skewed.

I would be happy with either as I believe both have the ability to go up a level and become world class or at least close to it.
 
At this current stage, United need Lukaku more. I see Morata as 'one for the future', which would've been a better option if we have Chicarito or RvP as our main striker; or if Ibra would be available throughout the season; so Morata wouldn't be expected to produce from right away. But we don't have any.

Opting for Lukaku is a move any sensible manager would do. Even the current Champion think that Lukaku is ready to lead them. Then you see some fans of a team that finished 6th last season ...
 
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Womp said:
Comparing them is pointless imo. Morata is yet to establish himself as a team's main striker and thus his stats are skewed.

I would be happy with either as I believe both have the ability to go up a level and become world class or at least close to it.
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yeah, like i said, at this point i don't care for it anymore, i just want lukaku to do well and hopefully fire us towards the title
 
TsuWave said:
I don't think stats are the be all end all, if you've watched them play its apparent imo, but here:

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left is morata at Juve and right is morata at Real. Metrics are per 90 seeing as Lukaku has like 2.5 times the amount of minutes played by Morata

edit - i apologise for the double post
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You might also wish to factor in the (context) teams Morata is playing for! Everton are no where near Madrid/Juventus.

This seems to be left out continually when discussing this matter. Everton are real fecking ordinary side (although perhaps that might change soon).
 
Minimalist said:
You might also wish to factor in the (context) teams Morata is playing for! Everton are no where near Madrid/Juventus.

This seems to be left out continually when discussing this matter. Everton are real fecking ordinary side (although perhaps that might change soon).
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This is what I was getting at. Im not denying that @TsuWave has a point either, he is right that potential wise Morata does have a higher ceiling, it's just that at this moment in time we can't afford to wait for that potential, with both Rashford and Martial we have plenty of that. Lukaku is the right age and if we get 2-3 seasons of him scoring and (those two progressing the way we all hope) and then sell him because he no longer fits or is needed then that can be good for our club. I think with Mata and Mhiki in the mix as well we could be in line for a decent season. Also I think that Real would probably want a stupid buy back clause like they had with Juve and if Morata had a good season with us then they would activate it and we will be back to where we are now.
 
Morata. He has everything you could want out of a modern striker.

Lukaku's inconsistency and poor holdup play don't suit a top club. I don't think he'll be the striker we need to unlock tight, compressed defences, which has been our primary issue under both LVG and Mourinho. He'll be a wierd one and be far more useful against the big teams and infuriating against the minnows.
 
Minimalist said:
You might also wish to factor in the (context) teams Morata is playing for! Everton are no where near Madrid/Juventus.

This seems to be left out continually when discussing this matter. Everton are real fecking ordinary side (although perhaps that might change soon).
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I don't wish to factor that :lol: (i'm joking, but its not something i overlooked) because then we'd also have to acknowledge and factor that though Morata has played with higher quality players, he has also faced higher quality competition for spots hence not always being a starter and having two and half times less minutes played than Lukaku. His numbers could very well be even better if he was the starter for a team as good as everton, a team which we only managed to get 2 points out of a potential 6 last year, and that is setup to get the best of him. And that would make this whole thing just endless. Womp as rightly pointed out that Morata's stats could be skewed, I didn't/wasn't basing my opinion on stats, just on what I've seen from both players, and Morata to me is clearly more talented plus I have a preference for more technically gifted players

I answered the question, I'd prefer Morata, let's just leave it at that
 
Perhaps it's both! Lukaku to replace Zlatan, and Morata to play the role that Jose had picked for Griezmann.

Morata scores goals and is a no.9 - but is very technically gifted and can surely slot in well into the behind the striker role. RM doesn't play with a player in that position and therefore he may not have played there much!

At least that's what makes sense given Morata link seemed like it was very serious. Also - it gained more momentum after the AG deal fell through.
 
I kind of like both, but at the same time I feel like we could have used the money differently. Matter of taste I guess.
 
Would love to get both of them in, and it's still looking like it might still happen.

As for lukaku he's a proven premier league goalscorer although he looks awkward and clumsy on the ball, you can't deny he knows how to find the net. If we get another creative player to accompany this signing then it will be good business. But I still feel we need another forward as having just lukaku isn't going to be enough. Especially as ibra is gone and now Rooney looks like leaving. Although Rooney is past his best, he still provided a certain amount of goal threat.
 
Looking at Lukaku's stats, he has shown a steady increase in his scoring over the past few years. Hopefully the increase will continue. Difficult to say the same about Morata because he simply doesn't feature as much and is not a regular starter
 
I'm not really impressed by either if I'm honest, but they are the best strikers available atm. There's an argument for and against both.

Lukaku tips it for me, especially factoring the 'feck you' element to RM and Chelsea.
 
Morata is the better dribbler, the better passer, the better at holding up the ball and has the better first touch. However, we have attacking players with these skills in abundance. What we do not have is a player who is strong and deadly in front of goal, guaranteed to get 25+ goals a season. Morata isn't this player, Lukaku most definitely is.
 
It will be interesting who scores more next season, Lukaku at United or Morata at Chelsea.
 
Has Lukaku ever had a game comparable to Morata @ bayern?

Think Morata has a higher ceiling, but he's also more of a gamble

I can see the logic in going for the surer thing here. Another season like last and Mourinho's out. The club itself would take a pretty big hit
 
Morata excites me more. Lukaku is a physical beast but, for me, not as easy on the eye in terms of playing style
 
Both have their qualities. I see Lukaku as an excellent "hammer of the weak" kind of player. God knows we had a hard time scoring against the Premiership's unfancied sides and we need to put those games away first, before dreaming of winning wednesday nights at the Allianz Arena.
 
The change in tune in these posts is hilarious compared to when we were signing " The Donkey" :lol:
 
Hard hard choice. I went with Morata as in general I think he is a better footballer than Lukaku. Lukaku however scores goals in our league and that is like gold dust. Lukaku probably fits the way I imagine Jose is going to play a lot better and his runningbstats or lack of aren't really going to matter.
 
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