peterstorey
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He'll be a good addition if he comes - Arteta has done well but his lack of pace is now becoming critical.
Gustavo has a lot more to his game than just doing a man marking job on a brilliant midfielder. I think a top team should play his best formation against the very best in europe, not change the formation and play someone out of position to somehow have a chance to go through. If Manchester United needs someone like Jones to do a job in the biggest games, it surely makes sense to play a quality holding midfielder regularly, so that the team is used to him in the team and the manager finds a formation with a great balance between defense and attack, that works against anyone. I'm sure then the team would be even stronger in these games and increase the chance to win against City/Chelsea in the league or against the big teams in Europe. I don't know if Gustavo is the kind of player Moyes wants to have, but if the reason he doesn't want him is because against the strongest teams Jones can do a job, I'd be worried as a United supporter. That surely can't be the best way to build a team good enough to win the CL. Against 80% of the teams in the league, United should win anyway, with or without a defensive midfielder next to Carrick. Maybe there will be less 3-2 comeback wins and more 1-0 wins, but I don't think that's such a bad thing either.
If we can get a player like him who doesn't have any illusions about his place in the squad - then I'd take him in an instant. We can, in theory, get on stunningly with what we have: If Cleverley takes a further step or two, becomes a more rounded midfielder and Carrick plays another blinder of season - then, yes, it's not too shabby at all. But we lack depth - immensely so compared to other areas. Even if we lose Rooney and don't replace him at all, we still have a wealth of attacking options. We could get rid of a couple of defenders and still be well stocked compared to most sides. The story is dramatically different in the middle.
My impression is that Gustavo would probably want plenty of minutes wherever he decides to go (World Cup season and all). He might get that for us, but I don't see him as a sure starter, so to speak.
Pretty sure that would be a stupid decision by him, if he wants to start in midfield at the world cup.He can play at CB too, hmmm
So, given some of the dismissive comments in this thread about his ability, he would appear to have an impressive group of clubs chasing him.
Bayern asked for 17m pounds, Wenger was only willing to pay 14m pounds according to Kicker.
I'm find it hard to believe that Wolfsburg can outbid Arsenal for a player, tbh.
Looking like he's going to Wolfsburg then.
Everyone ok?
He'd be a guaranteed starter at Arsenal too, you need a defensively minded midfielder.Apparently the driver was a guaranteed starting spot so he can hang on to his Brazil slot for the world cup.
If the part about his wages is true then the world has gone mental.Apparently the fee is €22m and Gustavo will earn £131k a week
He'd be a guaranteed starter at Arsenal too, you need a defensively minded midfielder.
Apparently the fee is €22m and Gustavo will earn £131k a week
Apparently the driver was a guaranteed starting spot so he can hang on to his Brazil slot for the world cup.
True. But can you honestly see Wenger dropping Arteta for him? Other than Arteta there's no other player he'd replace in the starting lineup.
It's the £130k that'd be a stumbling block in any negotiations if the figure is true, no way Wenger would be making him the top earner. It goes to show that not every player out there dreams about the magnificent Premier League though.My initial reaction is to laugh at Arsenal but then I think it might be depressingly representative that a player would rather go to a club like Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga over Arsenal in the PL. Then again, maybe they are just paying him a shit load of cash. I don't believe that Arsene drew the line at 14m when they wanted £17m, not even he is that fecking tight with cash. £17m is a cracking price for someone like Gustavo and regardless of the reasons, Arsenal fans will go nuts if this is true.
My initial reaction is to laugh at Arsenal but then I think it might be depressingly representative that a player would rather go to a club like Wolfsburg in the Bundesliga over Arsenal in the PL. Then again, maybe they are just paying him a shit load of cash. I don't believe that Arsene drew the line at 14m when they wanted £17m, not even he is that fecking tight with cash. £17m is a cracking price for someone like Gustavo and regardless of the reasons, Arsenal fans will go nuts if this is true.
It's the £130k that'd be a stumbling block in any negotiations if the figure is true, no way Wenger would be making him the top earner. It goes to show that not every player out there dreams about the magnificent Premier League though.