He's too good for us.
Luis Suarez, £135M?
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is this a rawk troll?
He's a vile, cheating, spitting, racist cnut of a footballer.
I'd definitely take him though. But not for £135m.
I'd definitely take him though. But not for £135m.
I agree, that's why I qualified the original post ("arguing against myself" I wasn't). As sportsmen there's no contest or discussion to be had, what I disagreed with was calling someone a negro is worse than shagging your brother's wife continuously for years and years. There's no comparison whatever high horse you want to jump on.
Again, you are making it about the sportmen when I stated from the outset there's no relevant comparison there (one is on pitch and the other off pitch, private and none of our business as fans). Strictly speaking what Giggs did was worse, all the other dimensions are your addition, I doubt either of them gave any consideration to how their actions could affect kids.
That whole role model thing is a classic media angle: footballers don't care, 90% of them are spoilt brats.
of course. But it's not hunting someone down dressed like Casper and burning them alive, which seems to be what some judge Suarez for sometimes.
As far as I'm concerned the act was as bad as Rio calling Cole "choc ice". The significant difference is how it was handled thereafter, it's the circus that blew it out of proportion and that's all Liverpool and their victim complex.
Negro de mierda is common talk in Uruguay and Argentina. Its even weirder because Uruguay has umbanda and African influence, they should embrace that more instead of embracing being a boring country with no vibe to it..
Nope Saurez seems to think it's ok to refer to skin colour as a insult, it's all about the context.
What giggs did was not worse, at all, if you were to rank priorities what would solve more issues in our societ or what is responsible for more problems, racism or affairs?
Now can you see how a football using racism on a football pitch broadcasted to millions upon millions around the world might be a little more damaging in the bigger picture?
Edit: as I think you said or maybe another correct me if I'm wrong but in south America there is an issue with racism, then they see one of the biggest south American players being racist on a football pitch, the influence that has is massive
This would surely be the most shocking transfer ever if materialised.
I'd personally allow it for two reasons - 1 because of the meltdown it would create for Liverpool FC and it's fans and 2 because he is the best striker in the world, premier league proven and like all expensive signings, have no effect on my financial life.
I'd personally allow it for two reasons - 1 because of the meltdown it would create for Liverpool FC and it's fans and 2 because he is the best striker in the world, premier league proven and like all expensive signings, have no effect on my financial life.
When you look at it this way, it almost sounds like a good idea.
Are we really having this conversation. He fecked off the north west of England for sunnier climes and the chance too play with the best players on earth...why would he join united.
Also 135mil???
This is one of the silliest threads ever. He will play out his days at barca and if for any reason (god knows why) he fancied a run around in the prem then there's only one club he'd play for.
Also 135mil???
This is one of the silliest threads ever. He will play out his days at barca and if for any reason (god knows why) he fancied a run around in the prem then there's only one club he'd play for.
Not sure about this one - a great player, to say the least, but his odious history is hard to ignore.
If we look at this from the perspective of balanced, unbiased people then what Giggs did was obviously worse.
I mean if the choice is either A) having someone say something racist to wind you up during a football game or B) having your brother feck your wife behind your back, then it's not really a choice is it? One does a lot more damage to your life than the other.
However, if you forget about being balanced and unbiased and instead look at this from the perspective of Manchester United fans, then what Suarez did is the bigger problem as he did it to our captain, against our team whilst playing for Liverpool. The tribalism of football is such that (for totally biased Manchester United fans) the on-field misdemeanors are a way bigger issue than what other players did outside the football bubble.
I mean if the choice is either A) having someone say something racist to wind you up during a football game or B) having your brother feck your wife behind your back, then it's not really a choice is it? One does a lot more damage to your life than the other.
However, if you forget about being balanced and unbiased and instead look at this from the perspective of Manchester United fans, then what Suarez did is the bigger problem as he did it to our captain, against our team whilst playing for Liverpool. The tribalism of football is such that (for totally biased Manchester United fans) the on-field misdemeanors are a way bigger issue than what other players did outside the football bubble.
This rumour was started weeks ago by Don Feckin Balon in Spain which is the Spanish equivalent of The Express and yet it gets 5 pages of posts on redcafe. Tells you a lot about the gullibility and delusional ways of many on here
If you took the time to actually read the thread rather than thinking you know everything you'll see most of the discussion is around the hypothetical whilst acknowledging that it Will obviously never happen.
How many "good years" does he still have left at the very top of the game? He's 29 now. So probably about 2-3 years, max? Not sure if that investment will be worth it.
I'm so used to threads like this where The Express come out saying we are going to sign either Lewandowski or Bale and then you have 5 pages of people discussing it on here. Not that we can't get those players but if they are already happy at huge clubs that don't sell their best players then it's obviously BS. My bad anyways on this one as didn't feel thread or any posts in it was worth reading so didn't a word in it
Bored. You keep choosing to refer to affairs rather than the importance of family so no point discussing this.
We don't have an issue with racism. It's there, but we largely don't care about it TBH. Bigger issues to deal with like, for example, starving under populist leaders who claim to receive instructions from Chavez reincarnated as a bird. Or the entire political class and the state being corrupt to the core. Discrimination is largely the result of cronyism/tribalism from different nations (not racist in itself, more what comes from tight knit immigrant communities).
"Someone called me negro" is the least of our concerns. And before you start calling us backwards, we abolished slavery and had universal voting way before most "developed" countries.
Well you do know Pogba was a similar rumor once?
Wouldn't want United to sign him if we could get him for £135k never mind £135m.
He's a wanker.
He's a wanker.
The transfer most likely is possible only in Football Manager 
And you keep referring to what Suarez said as if it's just a small incident, you may have other issues as well but it doesn't excuse racism.
Youre grasping at straws here so I'll move on, I'm not calling anyone backwards so please don't put those words in my mouth
No, you didn't. I just keep skipping ahead to preempt the various shades of bollocks typically spouted on this topic.
It's simple: he used racist language to wind up an opponent. It's not on, there may be mitigating factors to explain but not excuse his behaviour. He should have apologised straight away, didn't, kept bad counsel and it turned into a circus. We agree on all of that.
I just picked this up because I think family loyalties trump race relations as instrumental to values in society, but there's far too many moving parts in the whole incident for this to be remotely constructive.
united wants to have the cnut 3 attacking trio
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biggest cnuts in soccer huehueuhe
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biggest cnuts in soccer huehueuhe
Only an idiot would offer a penny over £40 million to be honest.
He's a nasty piece of work with many, many issues but as a footballer he is too good for us and our name is being dangled to get his contract renewed. I'll start getting worked up when I see a TV crew outside the training ground where he's arrived for a medical. Until then it's nonsense.
Hell NO
To be honest we have enough dressing room problems without hiring a racist.
135 Mill. for a 30 year old? No thanks.
As a reference to someone's skin colour it's very much the same, isn't it? It even questions character in a way the other doesn't.
No. Horrible idea
With the same amount of money one can invest in:
-Reus
-Saul
-(Defender)
-(talented forward with potential)
Atleast 4 player with 135m. Strengthning on all fronts.
-Reus
-Saul
-(Defender)
-(talented forward with potential)
Atleast 4 player with 135m. Strengthning on all fronts.
What a stupid rumour. Wouldn't happen in a million years.
"I'm not racist, I just sometimes say racist things"
Omg, what am I reading.
Is this the general view of things in Uruguay or are you just standing up for a fellow countryman.
Not sure which part you take issue with. The first line is a summary of the incident (you would then have to add all the insanity that followed on top, obviously). The second line is what some people on here were saying earlier in the thread: that he kicked Evra for being black. He kicked him because he was his marker and would have roughed him up all the same whatever his colour. He is a nasty little shit, that's part of his game.
Sadly, there were other occasions of it happening in the Premier league with regards to Stan Collymore who was subjected to racial abuse, then there was the incident between Peter Schmeichel and Ian Wright too, which cannot be swept under the carpet. John Terry and Anton Ferdinand too. There was even an instance where an Asian footballer verbally threatened a "white referee", so unfortunately, racism does exist with regards to all races, but it seems to be something that the Anglo-Saxons have become accustomed to (though it sounded like a generalisation, it really isn't.)
Anyone who wouldn't take him is mad in the head. Best striker in the world.
Plus, it would wind up Liverpool fans.
Also, this whole thread is a bit ridiculous. "Horrible human being"... really? We don't know the guy. From all accounts, he seems like a nice enough fella. Even Ivanovic and Chiellini stood up for him. What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch.
The Evra thing is in the past, but I don't believe he's a racist. No matter how you twist it, Racists don't like black people under any circumstances. Suarez has been very friendly with the likes of Neymar, Dani Alves, Sturridge and Sterling. Now I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that none of those gentleman are caucasion.
Plus, it would wind up Liverpool fans.
Also, this whole thread is a bit ridiculous. "Horrible human being"... really? We don't know the guy. From all accounts, he seems like a nice enough fella. Even Ivanovic and Chiellini stood up for him. What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch.
The Evra thing is in the past, but I don't believe he's a racist. No matter how you twist it, Racists don't like black people under any circumstances. Suarez has been very friendly with the likes of Neymar, Dani Alves, Sturridge and Sterling. Now I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that none of those gentleman are caucasion.
Reminds me of Rocky Marciano. An absolute beast, an animal inside of the ring who would tear you limb from limb if he could have got away it, yet at the same time, one of boxings nicest blokes outside of it. He does bring with him some heavy duty baggage, enough for him to pay the surcharge because of excess luggage. However, what cannot be denied is his prowess in front of the goal, that is not in question. Just for information purposes, the number of goals he has scored since his last season, the assists too, up to present day Barcelona reads:
Played 167 games:
Scored in 136 games
Direct assist in 64 other goals.
Since he has joined Barcelona he has:
Played 120 games
Scored in 99 games
Direct assist in 49 other goals.
If he had been the main penalty taker, he would easily be on a goal a game ratio.