Pretty sure if you took a poll the majority of fans wouldn't want him anywhere near the club. This is one of those transfers that would have to be called off due to fan backlash.
Luis Suarez, £135M?
- Thread starter sunama
- Start date
Yup. in any case, he'd no doubt make a big deal of refusing United out of loyalty...to the club he left.
Suarez has already scored more goals in 2.25 years at Barca than he did in 4 at Liverpool.
It wouldn't happen because he's 29 and approaching that time in his career when he is exiting his prime production years. (Unlike Ibra, who somehow managed to just be entering them).
Don't think it would happen even if he was 5 years younger. Too much negative history with the club and fans. Not worth the hassle.
I don't think anyone at the club would care, especially given our 3 years of current mediocrity.
Suarez said 'negrito' which cannot be excused. But his form of racism (again which cannot be excused) comes from a cultural background. In latin america it is deemed perfectly alright to call someone by their racial profile. It does however reinforce stereotypes and ensure a system of racial disparity remain through a continuous reminder that there are differences etc etc. He didnt use the word in the same way the N-word is used in english, it was a cultural misunderstanding that is still rightly deemed racist. His biting is again inexcusable, but you could put that down to him being a numpty and having flashes of red which make him do idiotic things.
Giggs on the other hand was an absolute calculated cnut plain and simple. There is not even an iota of an excuse to what he did, no other exterior influences to blame. He did something so inexcusable that it really has tarnished his reputation. Great footballer, a legend, because of his service to the club. However, he's a cnut and there are no two ways about it.
For my money I think Giggs is the worse person
Well for a start he didn't say negrito.
Secondly Giggs is our biggest legend ever and Suarez racially abused our Player.
fecking hell.
Putting aside the reasons as to why Suarez should or shouldn't sign for us, we need to look at his age. I have read a couple of posts, perhaps a few more in this thread and it is clear that many are of the opinion that Suarez will be past it by the time he reaches the age of 30. What I would like to know is this, where is the actual evidence of this regards to age and capacity to score goals in matches?
Just for information purposes, Zlatans goal record since from when he turned 29 years of age reads:
Played:
270 games
Scored:
234 goals
Assists:
85 assists.
So, his goalscoring record per game for the last 5-6 years has been around the 0.87 goals per game mark, and if we add in his assists, that is 234 goals + 85 assists towards goals in 270 matches. Please note, the statistics do not include his matches with Manchester United.
Just for information purposes, Zlatans goal record since from when he turned 29 years of age reads:
Played:
270 games
Scored:
234 goals
Assists:
85 assists.
So, his goalscoring record per game for the last 5-6 years has been around the 0.87 goals per game mark, and if we add in his assists, that is 234 goals + 85 assists towards goals in 270 matches. Please note, the statistics do not include his matches with Manchester United.
So you're basically ignoring what Giggs did just because he was a legend for us. Great logic.
Giggs is far worse than Suarez, anyone who isn't biased towards United would agree.
As for this thread, if he was 4 or 5 years younger I would definitely pay that much for him to come here. But not at 29.
Zlatan is clearly an outlier, who also benefited from having a world class cast of characters around him at PSG, not to mention play in an arguably lesser league in terms of defending. Furthermore, its obvious that players slow down with age - otherwise they would play forever.
It's not that players over 29 can't perform, it's that there is a big risk as a lot do tend to lose it once they hit 30-32 and there is a sudden or slow decline that isn't worth taking a risk on for so much money.
As a human being, Giggs may well be worse.
As a signing for Manchester United though Suarez is much worse as he racially abused a Manchester United captain while playing for Liverpool. That should be enough to instantly disqualify him from ever being a United player.
I agree entirely Raoul, however, he was also a player that had a record season for Paris Saint Germain at the age of 34. There are not that many players at that age who could ever have a season like his. With regards to Suarez however, to pay such an obscene amount for a player of his age is of course wrong, and it isn't always a given that he would do well if he was given a chance.
I think it could be a good idea if it is for a nice 4-5 year contract, but the price tag would have to be reduced greatly. Yes, Suarez is a great player, but paying all that money out is high risk.
Given that he left us to be with his wife in Barcelona, why would he leave there?
I would.
Plus, the guy is a rat no doubt about it, but I don't deem him a racist.
Plus, the guy is a rat no doubt about it, but I don't deem him a racist.
The first 2 are over the hill and Rashford is still a kid, I don't think Martial is considered a striker by most managers, so we do need a striker, obviously Suarez is a non starter for numerous reasons. We also have a midfield and defense, we need an addition to each area but to say we don't have any is hyperbole.
Yeah, for a lot less he'd be a good purchase. It is hard to forget his behaviour towards us though so I think even at a much lower price it would be a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people.
How come?
I'd get him to declare his lifetime ambition to play for Utd, to wind up the scousers, then tell him to feck off.
I agree entirely. We shouldn't not consider Suarez because of the Evra affair. That's ancient history now. But we shouldn't be considering him because his best days are behind him. We need the next Luis Suarez or the next Ruud Van Nistelrooy - ideally an early 20s striker who is ready to burst onto the scene.
Is that why he wanted to leave for Arsenal just a year before that too?
I think it was a heat of the moment thing. Sure he shouldn't have said it, and he was rightly banned for it.
Maybe I'm being too leniant but I don't believe he goes around still actually being racist. We've all said things we shouldn't have said.
Sometimes sleeping dogs should be left to lie. There really is no point in any supporter bringing it up, since it does no-one any good. I am sure that since time has passed, Evra will have forgiven Suarez, but not forgotten for what happened and for me, it was a shame that Evra tried to be amicable when Suarez didn't want to shake his hand. As you say, that is ancient history now, and I have to disagree with you with regards to "not considering him because his best days are behind him." He has a great deal to offer, not in Zlatan mould, but in the Ruud mould. I have never seen a striker who has such a brilliant memory for scoring goals wherever he finds himself in the box.
I can only compare him to Ruud and his ability in the box. That is where the comparison stops, but if we can have a player like that for perhaps 3-4 years, it could provide us with a player with the nous to be in the right place at the right time. We need a player whom the young players can actually learn their trade, because with the likes of Zlatan and Rooney, I am guessing that scoring in and around the box is not one of our fortés at the moment.
I agree with regards to his behaviour, but people need to let sleeping dogs lie.
Some people just deserve to be lied to by the tabloids.
That would be Willy Wonka type of madness. I'm saying No to that.
Seeing as we've no chance of signing Neymar (despite much effort), are United just going to try to sign any big-name star? Doesn't speak of any sensible, far-sighted planning...
Even if there was the possibility of us signing him for £135m, I'd rather we spent that money on several players to replace the dross we have in the squad. Had enough of spending fortunes on players now, it's not getting us anywhere. We need to decide on a style of play and buy players to suit it, like what Klopp and Guardiola have done.
Utd could sign Jesus and still be mediocre
The idea of signing Suarez indeed!
Thank goodness this one won't happen.
Thank goodness this one won't happen.
Given what he does, I'm sure he was hoping to get under a person's skin, racist or not. Suarez has control issues, more than racism or just plain anger issues. It's like his want to win just makes him take leave of his senses, and quite often too. It's cost us two lengthy bans.
Well, at least we get entertaining threads like these?
I really don't think it's true, more like transfer gossip calculated to bring in views from United fans right when you all need a lift.
If all your other 3,500+ posts are like this one it's no surprise you're still on "new member" status
Or at least one of those that would have to be called off for sheer absurdity alone
Intriguing. Do wonder what it's like to be an ABU.
Do it!
And what, consensual sex is 1000x worse than kicking someone because they are black?
Do it!
And what, consensual sex is 1000x worse than kicking someone because they are black?
never going to happen.
Barca kite flying. They are in big trouble financially and need money ASAP.
Obviously never going to happen, but in the hypothetical scenario that it did I'd have nothing to do with the club while he was around.
So, to be clear, you consider having a lower opinion of and abusing someone because they are of a different skin colour worse than two adults choosing to have sex.
I don't want racists at my club. Ever. Whilst I'd prefer my team's players weren't adulterers that is really not my business.
Ditto
Did he actually kick Evra because he was black? Or because he was an opposition player (like Chiellini and Ivanovic) who was frustrating him?