Should move to PSG. Negritos in Paris.
Luis Suarez, £135M?
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Should move to PSG. Negritos in Paris.
Never going to happen. ever.
Why is this a threadI wouldn't take him for a tenner. Scumbag.
Would you rather have Rooney or Suarez?
Pointless discussion never going to happen...
He is arguably the best player in the world. But he is almost 30, and he is Luis Suarez, so obviously not.
If it wasn't for the Evra incident, and he was 5 years younger, then I would have loved him at United.
If it wasn't for the Evra incident, and he was 5 years younger, then I would have loved him at United.
Negro/negrito the reports dictate on or the other.
Secondly, I'm not saying I want Suarez here nor negating the place giggs has in my heart as a Manchester United player, as a player I'd argue he is still my favourite as a player and I only really engaged with the second half of his career so missed arguably his most electric years.
BUT there is no denying having an affair with your brothers wife for as long as he did is lower than low. It's absolutely inexcusable. As a person he is scum. Forget about football for a second and honestly tell me that giggs can in anyway be seen as a good person. My hatred of Suarez has slightly waned as I no longer see his cnuty behaviour week in week out. But I would still posit that in my eyes giggs is the worse person for what he did.
if he was the only player that could solve are issues then yes i'd agree but there is a ton of different options that could be explored.
I'd feel dirty if we won the league due to his goals, happy yes, happier than i am now? 100% yes, but it wouldnt have the same feel personally.
difficult topic, is racism worse than an affair? not sure how you could deny it is.
But I think highly of Evra, we all love him, I don't even know what Giggsys brother is called so couldnt care less
I honestly wouldn't want him here on a free transfer unless we'd get him just to freeze him out and piss off Liverpool fans.
Love it how lots of people are talking about whether we should bid or not, as if it's our choice to tempt him with the stumbling block being his history. Barca will never ever sell such a key player to us. The guy himself (who's settled and very happy in Spain at probably his dream club) is not going to come to Liverpool's biggest enemies, where our fans have abused him many times.
£135m is a colossal amount of money, but Barca easily rebuffed our attempts for Neymar, likewise Bayern with Muller. The pressure to cash in is far lower when you're among the best 2-3 teams in the world.
£135m is a colossal amount of money, but Barca easily rebuffed our attempts for Neymar, likewise Bayern with Muller. The pressure to cash in is far lower when you're among the best 2-3 teams in the world.
I think more importantly than us not wanting Suarez, Suarez himself would never come here. He seems to still have a bond with Liverpool, similar to Ronaldo with us. Possibly more so with the Evra incident and the tension between the two clubs at that point.
My original point is Suarez's racism stems from a cultural background. It is more born of ignorance than an actual hatred of another race. The incident was more symptomatic of a global issue. As I said in South America it is deemed perfectly alright to call someone by their race, thereby emphasising a separation of the races, a sense of the "other". I got called 'gringo' (white guy) all the time and a black friend of mine told me he got called negro a lot. In the literature they have given me before I start my work in Colombia it warns its readers that they will be classed as such.
And so I believe his act of racism (whilst still terrible) was not born from his mind, but from the racial interactions that surrounded him growing up, a wider issue that can't just be focused on Suarez.
Giggs actively did what he did through no social conditioning, no exterior influences. He chose to have and continue having an affair with his brothers wife.
he used the term in a derogatory manner, has nothing to do with up bringing, if he just called him a prat thats one thing but if he called him a black prat thats racist. Its all down to the context in how the word is said.
He is also a grown man, where I grew up in the UK in Newcastle people still call a chinese takeaway a "chinkys" which is offensive, everyone said it when I was growing up, a lot still do...I do not because i understand its racist
Why is this nonsense even printed.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
I'd rather see Rooney here until the end of his contract than have Suarez here.
Putting aside the history, I don't want to see us breaking transfer records again in the near future, unless it's for a world class player who is still in their peak years or has yet to hit their peak. Given a £200m budget, it would be madness to spend most of it on one player when our entire squad needs an overhaul.
Putting aside the history, I don't want to see us breaking transfer records again in the near future, unless it's for a world class player who is still in their peak years or has yet to hit their peak. Given a £200m budget, it would be madness to spend most of it on one player when our entire squad needs an overhaul.
NO
He'd never come here anyway. Completely daft transfer rumor.
Literally
...for flesh?
Hell no.
That? You mean during the incident, when he was clearly trying to wind him up?
I'm sure you typically won't believe anything he says, so why take what he says in such a situation as fact?
independent are on a WUM I see.
Amazing striker whom I will never want him anywhere near this club
I'm sorry but if you'd choose quick guaranteed goals over club pride or even our Uncle Pat's feelings then you can feck off
I'm sorry but if you'd choose quick guaranteed goals over club pride or even our Uncle Pat's feelings then you can feck off
Calling someone a negro during a game of football to wind him up
Vs.
Shagging your brother's wife for the best part of a decade
How can you turn that into "racism is worse than having an affair"? Not that footballer's private lives are any of our business, mind.
As far as I know, most footballers are complete cnuts. All I care about is them performing on the pitch and giving 100%. If they do that, the rest is irrelevant. If they don't, the rest is relevant insofar as it may indicate where the problem is.
Nope.
If buying back Pogba didn't do it, buying Suarez will make us the most sick club in existence.
It would be fun to see the scousers crying, but I love Evra and wouldn't want to annoy him.
because racism is more detrimental to society
edit sorry i read what you said again, are you taking the absolute p***? using the colour of someones skin in a manner to cause offence is racism lad it is never ever ok. Now think of liverpool parading that wanker on their shirts before kick off, now think how many liverpool fans which are kids and how heavy influenced they could of been by that action now thinking its ok to call people that.
Its incredibly small minded to say "oh its just a word how is it racist" and you argued against yourself in your own post, what a player does with his personal life meh who gives a feck
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He admitted what he said, why wouldnt we?
feck right off. So far off that you're not in the same universe.
I'd argue families, as the building blocks of society, are far more important. It's not any random affair.
Where do I say it is?
Suarez isn't a racist, the report itself makes it clear they don't believe he is but that he used racist language. He did, and it's wrong, but the crux of the matter really wasn't the isolated act but the whole circus around it, the denials, the t-shirts, the cultural interpretations...
All that was needed was an apology, "big game, heat of the moment, was trying to wind him up, didn't realise it was such a sensitive issue,...", slap on the back, slap on the wrist from the FA and everyone moves on.
The shocking thing isn't Suarez using racist terms, or not realising how big a deal it was (it is 100% not as big a deal in South America, everyday stuff, both with and without racist intent and nobody gives a feck really).
The shocking thing was how Liverpool as a whole handled the entire saga. They should know better, much better.
I'm not arguing against myself there (or anyone for that matter), I'm just conceding that their personal lives shouldn't matter to us as football fans. On pitch, Giggs was an outstanding professional. Off the pitch, I don't care.
It has no bearing on which is worse behaviour though.
I'd want him hear in a heart beat. I want to see us win trophies again. I want to see us dominate!
On the pitch Suárez roughs up Evra. Evra asks why he kicks him and Suárez replies "because you are black" to wind him up.
Now people here are saying Suarez kicks black people just because they are black, which is a completely mental interpretation of it all.
how about no.
I'd pay that, so long as he agrees to wear a poppy. That's the dealbreaker.
On the pitch giggs is a hero off the pitch he does what he wants
On the pitch Suarez despite being a top player has been found guilty of racism towards a man utd player
I dont want his goofy face anywhere near our squad.
The two issues which one is more likely to effect kids and see them using the same behaviour?
Clearly Suarez, racism is far more detrimental not even up for debate
If you use the colour of someone's skin to wind them up that's racist!