EPL doesnt really have outstanding outright wingers at present, not compared to the Bundesliga and La Liga anyway.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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EPL doesnt really have outstanding outright wingers at present, not compared to the Bundesliga and La Liga anyway.
Good player and not as inconsistent as some people think, that's become a cliche with Nani at this stage. That said, he's 26 now so if he's going to become a really top player we need to see him at his best again soon and for a longer period than we've seen before.
You can tell Nani really loves the club. What other player would stay here, who is as good as Nani on his day but was in and out of the side, undeservedly so like he was. It's ridiculous the way we've treated Nani these past few years, but I'm glad he's staying to fight for a spot in the first team. Didn't think there was any chance of him staying this summer to be honest.
Given the new 5 year deal, very likely he will hit 10 years service and get 'testimonial' status.
I doubt he "loves" the club. But Moyes must have done some serious sweet talking for Nani to stay.
Or we've just decided to match his demands.
I very much doubt Nani would be at the club today had Fergie still been here.
Good news. I think Nani still has something to give to our team..
Ok but even then are we comparing to Robben, Ribery and Ronaldo? Because right not they're the best in their positions and in fairness the accusations of consistency can be put at Robben and to a lesser extent Riberey. But I don't think anyone says Nani is quite there yet, I think he can get to their level though, but when I look at Di Maria, Sanchez etc I don't see why they're any better than Nani.
This is how I feel 100%.
Get him fit. Get him first choice and playing regularly and back into form. With Fellaini and Carrick we have a chance to have a fluid and attacking front 4 that can take on anyone.
If Nani had kicked on from his 09/10 form I would have said yes but he has spent more seasons as a good player rather than a great one now, and I wonder, or rather hope that 09-11 remains a fluke rather than a possibility. I do however empathise with the sentiment that playing a midfield of Giggs and Young is hilarious compared to Nani and Kagawa.
10/11 was his best season the one he won our POTY and the season after that was very good as well for first half/2/3 before he got injured. About 45 goals and assists in those two seasons in the league so don't think you can call it a one season wonder. personally I would say with the exception of last season he's been making the progress you would expect. In and out for his first few seasons as he was adapting and we had big competion, then 2 to 3 seasons of steady improvement, albeit a peak in 10-11 and then last season he had a poor season with injuries though as well. I can't see if given a proper run why he won't get back on track.
Amos (23)
Jones (21) Smalling(24) Evans(26) Fabio(23)
Cleverley(24) Anderson(25) Januzaj(18)
Zaha(20) Hernandez(25) Welbeck(23)
Not bad for a side with an average age <23 (and 5 with full England caps)
New management, fresh start, give him a chance to prove his potential (arse away 2010 was sublime). If it doesn't work out at least he is on a contract now so we can demand a reasonable fee.
Great news. Fresh start for Nani, and I hope Moyes gives him games as he could be one of our most important players.
Not losing Nani is great. Either he discovered his best offer was at United, or the club decided he was worth what he was demanding.
Now if Rooney can realize his best wages and playing opportunities are at United, then this summer won't have been wasted.
Now if Rooney can realize his best wages and playing opportunities are at United, then this summer won't have been wasted.
Great news that we've tied him down to a new contract, him and Valencia on form would any team in the world nightmares about going against us.
excellent news, I'm glad he signed.
Great news. Offers so much more than our other wide options in terms of threat. Even when off form he still carries that feeling that he could do something special that results in a goal. Can't really say the same for young and valencia.
Our best bit of business under Moyes thus far.
Moyes has done well to hang on to Rooney and Nani
Agreed, I'd also put Rafael in the list of players better than Nani, but still I love Nani, he is an amazing player and more consistent than he's given credit for.
What is it about favouring attackers when mentioning a teams best players.
Let me list you your players better than Nani.
Rooney, RVP, Vidic, Rio, DDG, Carrick.
I'm absolutely delighted he has signed. He is a great professional, trains hard, looks after himself physically, never uses the press to question managers, or talk about leaving, and seems like a good all round guy that the rest of the team like.
hopefully he gets a regular run in the side. he is by far the most talented winger in the premier league
hopefully he gets a regular run in the side. he is by far the most talented winger in the premier league
Very happy about this.
Fantastic news. Hope to see more of Nani and Zaha this year.
Di Maria may have case but then again they're really close players for me, I honestly consider Nani better than Sanchez.
Not sure about this at all to be honest. Very talented player on his day but his form, for whatever reason, simply hasnt been up to scratch. How that equates to getting a new five year deal I dont know.
Hopefully now this is resolved he can get back to near to the form he's clearly capable of.
Very very pleased with this. Nani is, in my opinion, our best winger when on form. Hopefully he'll be a regular starter from now on - then I'm certain that we'll see consistency from him.
That's my point really, no one has said nani is in the top band of wide players in the world but he's certainly in the band just below it. That's what I don't get when people label this accusation of a lack of consistency, I don't know who they're comparing too within that level. He certainly hasn't been at his best in the last 18 months or so but he's had a lot of injuries in that time as well and for I think had he been given the same leeway Valencia was getting last season and to a lesser extent young then we would have seen more from him.
When Nani came on against Liverpool he seemed hell bent on trying to change the game, which was a relief from what we were getting before, even though he was clearly a bit rusty.
Maybe we should get Moyes more involved in transfer negotiations. Always keeps his players longer than you'd expect (at Everton) and has been described as a 'very convincing person' by players he was signing in the past. I think that is evident by the big new deal that Nani has just signed on the same terms as he already had.
Call me cynical, but I think he's been given this contract to drive his asking price up. Reckon he'll be sold at the end of the season.
Why would we give him a 5 year contract? Why would he rather not have waited a year and then leave? Why would the same clubs who were not willing to offer more than 10 million for him this time would offer double that next year? He won't be sold.
I'm not saying he wants to leave, I'm saying the club may want to sell him.
5 seems a lot for a player you hope to sell in the next summer window no ? It's a genuine question, if you're right about the club's intent then I think maybe it would have been a 2-3 years at max contract renewal.
If we wanted to sell him why would we give him a 5 year contract, something like 4 years would have made more sense? It's difficult to shift players who are already on huge deals, take for example Young, who by the way will be sold next year. If we wanted to sell Nani, we would have done so this year. What's the point of giving him a new contract (which would have included some signing-on bonus)? Clubs aren't just going to come in with 20 million+ offers because he signed a new deal with us. They'll come with such offers if he performs well, and if he does, I don't see why we would want to sell him.
That makes even less sense. He had 5 teams make an approach for him that we rebuffed. How are the club going to then make it clear we want to sell him and for more money?
"Oh yes, Nani is for sale by the way."
"Great, here's that £12m we offered last year"
"£12m? Are you crazy? He's one of our best players and just signed a new contract"
"Right... So why are you selling him?"
"Because we don't really want him"
"Ok, so here is a £10m offer.... It should just about cover the massive loyalty bonus you owe him on top"
Stop ruining my moment you cnuts.
Good news, even from the point of view that if we decide to get rid in the next couple of years he can't run his contract down, and we'll get a few sheks for him.
That makes no sense at all.
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