Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances

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I'm starting to feel less convinced by this. If we don't hear from the club tomorrow I think we can say Juve are talking shit. Hopefully will still stay anyway, but if he's actually signed a contract why on earth would they not make it public?
 
I'm starting to feel less convinced by this. If we don't hear from the club tomorrow I think we can say Juve are talking shit. Hopefully will still stay anyway, but if he's actually signed a contract why on earth would they not make it public?
Didn't Jamie Jackson say it was happening last week though? I believe. Probably just still negotiating.
 
So I'm pretty sure that Marotta's quote that "He’s renewed his contract" is not accurate... if it's as done as that we would have anounced it by now. And also, there are very few news sources actually even runnng with that quote... could well be somthing of a mistranslation between "He has" and "He is giong to" or even "He might do". Or possibly it was made-up throw away comment form Marotta, or a line fed to Juve by Nani's representatives. God knows.

Things certainly look better than they did 24 hours ago when he was meant ot be pretty much a Juve player, but that also shows just how flimsy these definitive seaming statemetns can turn out to be and how fast things can change.

Fingers crossed, but don't get too excited just yet.
 
Isn't it weird that Juventus' CEO has come out and said that Nani has signed a new deal and not us? I find it strange that the club has not announced it themselves.
 
Because is hasn't happened. Probably on the verge of being penned down and Marcotti talks about it being done. The club doesn't make announcements until they are 100% done.
 
fecking hell, if you told me at the beginning of the summer that the only business we'd do is to hold on to Rooney and Nani, I would've taken it without at doubt. We won the league without either at top form for any significant amount of time, and they're both exceptional players. Bale can suck a dick, Nani with no injuries this season becomes Europe's best winger. Easily.
 
fecking hell, if you told me at the beginning of the summer that the only business we'd do is to hold on to Rooney and Nani, I would've taken it without at doubt. We won the league without either at top form for any significant amount of time, and they're both exceptional players. Bale can suck a dick, Nani with no injuries this season becomes Europe's best winger. Easily.

Bale doesn't have that title really, nor is he close to the player that does. Ronaldo and Ribery are both much better then Bale, it's not even debatable. I agree with what you mean though, Nani at his best can be better then Bale at his best, and up there along with Ribery as the best proper wingers in the world. That's a big if though, because Nani seems to have become injury prone these last few years, we can hope though.


Isn't it weird that Juventus' CEO has come out and said that Nani has signed a new deal and not us? I find it strange that the club has not announced it themselves.
Yeah, that's been bothering me a bit. Hopefully it's sorted soon.
 
It is probably more of a case of Nani's "people" telling Juventus that he is going to sign a new contract.
 
Bale can suck a dick, Nani with no injuries this season becomes Europe's best winger. Easily.
Yep of course Nani is better than Bale, that's why Bale is on the verge of a world record deal while Nani is a part time squad player that we are struggling to offload.
 
Yep of course Nani is better than Bale, that's why Bale is on the verge of a world record deal while Nani is a part time squad player that we are struggling to offload.

Not this again...
 
fecking hell, if you told me at the beginning of the summer that the only business we'd do is to hold on to Rooney and Nani, I would've taken it without at doubt. We won the league without either at top form for any significant amount of time, and they're both exceptional players. Bale can suck a dick, Nani with no injuries this season becomes Europe's best winger. Easily.

And the hysterical overrating of a genuinely good, talented player continues. Whilst Mungy does overreact, he has a point, if Nani is as good as Bale as you claim why is one POTY, and on the verge of a record breaking deal and the other being banded about for 13 million( which I feel is a bit too low personally, as an in form Nani is worth around 20 million). It seems that everyone in the world can see Nani at his actual level in world football except some on the cafe!
 
An in form Nani is worth a completely stupid amount of money, to be fair. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if United paid £40m for the Nani of 2010 in today's market.

I still don't get why his form that calender year went largely unnoticed by the footballing press. It was similar to the level Mata and Bale were at last season.
 
An in form Nani is worth a completely stupid amount of money, to be fair. I wouldn't bat an eyelid if United paid £40m for the Nani of 2010 in today's market.

I still don't get why his form that calender year went largely unnoticed by the footballing press. It was similar to the level Mata and Bale were at last season.


Similar to Mata, but I think Bale was better than both were in their top seasons. Still believe people are living off memories of a handful of games where he put in a world beating performances.

It did get noticed by the media, didnt he win a POTM award? But I re-iterate, I think the cafe has a tendency to either overstate or understate Nani, hes either average and inconsistent or the worlds best winger! Nobody seems to stop to consider he might just be a good, sometimes very good player.

Hes being branded at around 11-13 mil now mostly because of his inconsistency not so much his injuries but I think he is potentially worth more to United than 13 million.
 
Similar to Mata, but I think Bale was better than both were in their top seasons. Still believe people are living off memories of a handful of games where he put in a world beating performances.

It did get noticed by the media, didnt he win a POTM award? But I re-iterate, I think the cafe has a tendency to either overstate or understate Nani, hes either average and inconsistent or the worlds best winger! Nobody seems to stop to consider he might just be a good, sometimes very good player.

Hes being branded at around 11-13 mil now mostly because of his inconsistency not so much his injuries but I think he is potentially worth more to United than 13 million.


It depends what you want in a player. People's perceptions of Bale's performances are heavily skewed by game changing moments, of which there have obviously been many. I would take Nani and Mata for their performances as well as their productivity - they're both players who do the business in terms of stats as well as being ideally suited to teams wanting to play great football.

It was never a 'handful' of world class games with Nani, though. He was like that in his first season here, with the Arsenal and Liverpool games being such examples (with other performances being good, decent and poor). In 2010 on the other hand he went for an entire year of being unquestionably our best attacking player, putting in top class performances against all sorts of teams. It felt very similar to Ronaldo 06/07 until his injury.

Nevertheless, you've just said he was at a similar level to Mata. ;) Mentalist Chelsea managers aside, that says a lot about his top level. £20m for a player like that would be an absurd fee; an absolute steal.
 
Yeah, I dont underrate Nani, I saw what he was capable of in that season, but its all well and good saying 3 or 4 seasons later ' an in form' Nani, or a '2010 Nani', perhaps the 2010 Nani was more of an anomaly, we have a tendency to take the good form as the standard and inconsistent form as the anomaly even when the poorer form lasts longer. Compared to say Rooney who was world class for many seasons, so that one poorer season can be written off as a rarity.

That being said even at his best Nani still was a level below Ronaldo,07-09 Ronaldo was unstoppable.
 
He was a fair bit better then than Ronaldo in 2009. I wouldn't really disagree with what you're saying there aside from that, though; just responding to your original point about his value if he was in form.

The circumstances haven't exactly been ideal for Nani since that year. Poor luck with injury and a bizarre situation regarding Alex Ferguson's preference of other wingers even when he was fit have at least partially hindered his return to form. I still think Fergie's reluctance must've been off the back of some sort of grudge to be honest, because Valencia and Young were honestly so shit at times last year that it couldn't possibly have been for footballing reasons.
 
He was a fair bit better then than Ronaldo in 2009. I wouldn't really disagree with what you're saying there aside from that, though; just responding to your original point about his value if he was in form.

The circumstances haven't exactly been ideal for Nani since that year. Poor luck with injury and a bizarre situation regarding Alex Ferguson's preference of other wingers even when he was fit have at least partially hindered his return to form. I still think Fergie's reluctance must've been off the back of some sort of grudge to be honest, because Valencia and Young were honestly so shit at times last year that it couldn't possibly have been for footballing reasons.


Yeah but that was ' Slave Ronaldo' remember :p Something certainly was wrong between SAF and Nani thats for sure.
 
True. :) Given what he started doing the second he arrived in Madrid that year, I think it's clear he was basically completely unarsed for the majority of his last season at United. It looked like it at least, and it felt like he turned it on at the business end of the season just to remind Madrid he was still amazing.
 
I might have been drunk when I posted the bit about Bale, but honestly, if Nani's given a run in the team and avoids injuries he'll be the best winger in the league(which he was, the last time those two circumstances coincided). As KE7 points out, it's all good an well saying he's not done it for 3 seasons, but the reasons for that have been done to death in here.
 
It's been asked before but why does no fecking journalist ask a bloody question about Nani's contract situation in the press conferences? The Juventus CEO claims he's signed a new contract but none of the hacks think about asking for confirmation from the effing club. Instead they go home and make up shite transfer rumours about how Chelsea offered Luiz's hair to tempt Rooney or something. Frustrating.
 
Yeah, I dont underrate Nani, I saw what he was capable of in that season, but its all well and good saying 3 or 4 seasons later ' an in form' Nani, or a '2010 Nani', perhaps the 2010 Nani was more of an anomaly, we have a tendency to take the good form as the standard and inconsistent form as the anomaly even when the poorer form lasts longer. Compared to say Rooney who was world class for many seasons, so that one poorer season can be written off as a rarity.

That being said even at his best Nani still was a level below Ronaldo,07-09 Ronaldo was unstoppable.

It's not like he was good just in 2010, e wasn't one season wonder. He was excellent in season before after January untill end of the season(half of the season), he was easily one of our best player during that period, and in the season after 2010 he never reached his highest level, but he still had good season, I think stastically he was still one of the best wingers in the league, if not the best. And he showed his class for his National team so many times.
 
On the bench today anyway.

Glad to see this. If we can get Nani back to his best a lot of our creativity issues going forward will vanish. Before that card against Madrid Nani was having a wonderful night if we can get him playing like that again it'll be a huge help for our forwards.
 
It's not like he was good just in 2010, e wasn't one season wonder. He was excellent in season before after January untill end of the season(half of the season), he was easily one of our best player during that period, and in the season after 2010 he never reached his highest level, but he still had good season, I think stastically he was still one of the best wingers in the league, if not the best. And he showed his class for his National team so many times.


I remember a big debate in the 09/10 season on here about who was the better winger over that season Malouda or Nani and it was 50/50 on here.

Obviously Nani has been much better than Malouda overall though, I dont disagree hes been one of the best wingers in the league between 08-11 either.
 
I remember a big debate in the 09/10 season on here about who was the better winger over that season Malouda or Nani and it was 50/50 on here.

Obviously Nani has been much better than Malouda overall though, I dont disagree hes been one of the best wingers in the league between 08-11 either.


08/09 is too early, since he wasn't even our top2 winger at that time, but since January 2010, until end of season before last(2011/12) I think he was easily one of the best wingers in the league.
 
If he's got the sharpness he showed before he got injured then could be a very good impact sub today.
 
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