Crazy how Irwin just revealed all of our transfer dealings a little while back. Expect Pat to go to Monaco any time now.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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I'd also look at the options we have out wide whether we're playing wingers or not. Young, Zaha, Welbeck, Rooney, Kagawa are all players who either can be or have been used wide in different circumstances. Given that I think it becomes even more difficult to rationalise a big new contract for Nani.
Related to the change of manager point, and what you said, but given we have quite a few options in the wide areas, and a new manager who may or may not want to completely change the shape of the way we play.... again, it all seems set for a "wait and see" approach.
Do you know how Everton played? I'm not that familiar if it was with two 'traditional' wide men or some other means.
Imagine trying to explain to someone that you bought Ashley Young for £20m then sold Nani for less than half that, without making them think you're a complete moron.
I have to say I didnt watch Everton much so I dont really know but no, I dont get the impression they had the same emphasis on width that we usually do.
Would anyone have to do that though? There's been a change of regime at every level between the two events. Would anyone have been intimately involved in both deals? Assuming a Nani deal happens, that is.
Calm it.
I read somewhere else that we would recieve £14.5million for him. Didn't realise this article had it down as £8.5million.
The manager has changed. Nani supposedly isn't happy because he didn't get enough playing time last season, before the manager changed.
Playing time that was given to other players, including Young, despite Nani being the only winger last season who at any point put in an above adequate performance.
Basically we'd be selling our best winger for less that what we value our worst, which is quite silly, regardless of what's gone on inbetween.
Even sugardaddy clubs seem to take the piss with us when it comes to bids. Its hilarious. Monaco should be paying atleast 15 million. It would be spare change for them.
The manager - and CEO.
Your point stands, it would be very silly. I just think in the circumstances there would be no one person we could force to wear the Dunce's Cap and make stand in the corner.
What's happening then, is he staying or going?
beat it
The only possibility of Nani's departure would be that Moyes already got a solid replacement for him.
Is it someone on the transfer market ? ...because Zaha's talent and potential will probably require one, maybe two seasons to completely develop and adjust to United standards and this Nani talk may be caused by a quite strong linking Bale to United by media.
Logic says, Nani will stay as there is no good offer but Moyes still have time to surprise everyone as he may be focused on bringing not only Cesc to Old Trafford, but also someone, currently off the media's radar.
Is it someone on the transfer market ? ...because Zaha's talent and potential will probably require one, maybe two seasons to completely develop and adjust to United standards and this Nani talk may be caused by a quite strong linking Bale to United by media.
Logic says, Nani will stay as there is no good offer but Moyes still have time to surprise everyone as he may be focused on bringing not only Cesc to Old Trafford, but also someone, currently off the media's radar.
Well, I'd start with the person who decided to agree to sell him at that price...if anyone has, which I doubt, or at least hope isn't the case.
PErsonally think it was quite daft leaving him out as often as we did in the first place last season. I'd presumed he'd already decided to leave, had a falling out or some mysterious injury...then it just turned out to be because he wasn't playing well enough, which could be applied even more so to pretty much all of the players keeping him out of the team.
Id be fairly certain he was being left out due to issues with him and Fergie. So thats fine. Many players felt his wrath in that exact same way.
Really thought Moyes would give him a fresh start.
His 1st month in the job has been a bit shit in fairness. Not much is going right
Really thought Moyes would give him a fresh start.
His 1st month in the job has been a bit shit in fairness. Not much is going right
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Nani leaving is just mental, it's not as if we're well stocked with wingers. If he does go, that adds another player to the two central midfielders we're supposed to want.
Nani leaving for Monaco is even more mental if it materialises.
Maybe he genuinely was seeking too much money?
Hope it's not true so I don't develop a rational dislike for him. Always wanted him to be 'the man' here.
Maybe he genuinely was seeking too much money?
Hope it's not true so I don't develop a rational dislike for him. Always wanted him to be 'the man' here.
14.5m is not a bad price for a player in the last year of his contract, unwilling to sign a new one as he wants big wages, had a bad previous season and is not wanted by a lot of clubs (no chance of an auction 
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Hopefully, it would mean a marquee signing in the area, as we would be short.
)Hopefully, it would mean a marquee signing in the area, as we would be short.
I'm happy to see him go...
...as long as we sign Ronaldo or Bale.
Otherwise they can feck off with their £14m, Nani's a great player.
...as long as we sign Ronaldo or Bale.
Otherwise they can feck off with their £14m, Nani's a great player.
Bad news if true, replacing Nani would cost far much more than what we'll get from the fee.
Could we negotiate and somehow trick them into taking Ashley Young instead?
We already have 4 wingers. Even if Nani leaves I can't see us buying another one
I'm a little meh about him leaving. He's not hit the heights of 10/11 when we won the 19th title.
I find Young more annoying than Nani, but circumstances with the last year of his contract mean we either sell or commit ourselves to a long and probably expensive contract with Nani. I'm not sure he's done enough to earn this sort of a commitment.
I find Young more annoying than Nani, but circumstances with the last year of his contract mean we either sell or commit ourselves to a long and probably expensive contract with Nani. I'm not sure he's done enough to earn this sort of a commitment.
Perhaps?
This is not good news. We need to be consolidating what we have not shipping out. It is important that we keep hold of both Nani and Rooney NOT sell them
Seriously, if we sell Nani (which I hope we don't), we definitely, categorically, 100% need a new winger. We can't rely on the injury prone Young, an out of form Valencia and a completely unproven Zaha as our only natural wingers.
Valencia wont be out of form in the coming season. And we may not actually play with traditional wingers as much under Moyes. I agree that selling Nani is not the way to go at all but if it happens I wouldnt necessarily demand a like for like replacement - though we would need quality attacking reinforcements, no doubt.
Maybe the whole Nani saga would make sense if we knew that United and Spurs are in advanced stages of concluding a deal for Bale.
This Nani exit has been on the cards for so long that I don't think it'll end well for us (similar to the Tevez, Pogba, Morrison sagas that resulted in the players leaving).
He of course didn't contribute much last season owing to his injury, but if he does go then as things stand we're looking at last season's squad minus Scholes, Nani, and probably Rooney, with so far Zaha added and Fabio back...
He of course didn't contribute much last season owing to his injury, but if he does go then as things stand we're looking at last season's squad minus Scholes, Nani, and probably Rooney, with so far Zaha added and Fabio back...
Disappointing as the whispers were that Moyes had sanctioned a new contract for him. I'd rather he stay another year and prove he's our best winger than sell him for peanuts this summer.
Presumably Rooney is similarly crap then - double the time on his contract and only worth £20m. In fact we probably have a pretty worthless squad using your criterion.
We won the title last season without him - he's not as big of a loss as some of you are making him out to be. Zaha is a good replacement for him, and he has the potential to be a better player than Nani - IN MY OPINION.
Nani is too much of an off-on player. I'll honestly be very happy with a transfer fee in the £14million region.
Nani is too much of an off-on player. I'll honestly be very happy with a transfer fee in the £14million region.
So is there anything more solid than L'Equipe reporting it? I've not read all of the papers, obviously, but I've not seen anything confirmed in relation to him being in Monaco.
We also won the title without a recognizable midfield and yet here we are stuck in endless pursuits of world class reinforcements in that position.
I am just astounded that you are already passing subjective judgement on Zaha, a player who has never played in the top flight and even worse attempting to pass him off as being better than someone who has won the CL, Premier League and is a full international. Most flair players tend to be quite inconsistent and prone to off days or moments when dribbles don't work out for them. From what we have seen of Zaha he is very much of the same mould and coupled with his relative inexperience and youth, it seems plausible that he will probably have those same off moments.
For what it is worth, the idea of jettisoning a proven operator without a proven replacement with demonstrable ability to offer an improvement just does not seem to be the most rational one in any instance.
The size of the transfer fee notwithstanding, it was obvious from the vast majority of our performances and any thorough objective analysis of our team that adequate reinforcements are necessary. Further it is also important that the club hangs on to its proven players which means that we should be looking at keeping hold of both Nani and Rooney, the two proven operators who have been linked with moves away from the club.
I suspect Moyes is going to largely play 4-3-3 anyway, with two inside forwards. In that scenario I think both Rooney and Welbeck can be added to the 'winger category'. Young is only effective cutting in on his right, so such a system should help him. Zaha, seems versatile enough to play as one. And Valencia provides a change of dimension when required.
Just a theory.
Just a theory.
If we went 433 than Nani is easily our best and most natural player suited to that front 3 imo aside from RVP as the main striker.
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