Nani needs to go simple as that. Hes had his chance to find consistency but due to several factors he couldnt. For his sake I think its best if he moves on I think Seria A would be a good fit for him.
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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You may consider him but he isn´t. Portugal´s second best player is Moutinho. Pepe and Coentrão are also more influencial at the moment. He was never captain either. I agree with your last sentence though, that´s why he plays better in our National team rather than United.
Don't be crazy Pepe and Moutinho are much better right now.
It's not unlikely. Nani would probably be useful when we take out a defender and play a 4-3-3. We've clearly had some trouble breaking down sides in Europe when they're parking the bus, but have had nothing other than Giovinco to throw in for some trickery.
It would be a cheap and experienced option to have on the bench. Don't expect more than €7-8 m.
Meh, don't expect Nani then. We can squeeze a bit more for him, especially that he just signed new contract.
Contracts don't mean much if you're trying to offload a player. We clearly don't want nani sitting in the reserves picking up 100k a week, other teams know this. No way we'll get anything near what we paid for him. He's been going downhill last 2 seasons.
Jeez man what the feck are you doing, can't you see that I'm trying to negotiate here with Nedved ?
On whose side are you, ours or Juves?Jeez man what the feck are you doing, can't you see that I'm trying to negotiate here with Nedved ?
He's unwanted and expensive for you? We'll take him for free and minimise your losses.
He'll move on, get on it, and we will ask...why didn't we give him run of 7-8 starts in a row like we afforded Valencia?
So Tuttosport are saying that he's going to Juve for €5m, not sure how reliable they are.
One thing that's sad to see is that whenever he plays and no matter how shit others are you know and he knows that he is the one who is going to be subbed off first. For his own good I hope he will leave at the end of season, he ruined two years of his career being injured for half of that and being treated like a junk for other half.
He was their captain in one game.
He was their captain in one game.
Woeful yesterday. People always bang on that he needs a run of games but you need to take the chances you're given and he just doesn't do that.
Wasn't surprised he got the hook but was surprised he was taken off ahead of Young (who was absolute fecking toilet).
Needs to be moved on.
Wasn't surprised he got the hook but was surprised he was taken off ahead of Young (who was absolute fecking toilet).
Needs to be moved on.
Well I for one was astonished he was took off over Young yesterday. He was far more dangerous without even playing well, if one of them was going to make something happen it was him - shot just over in first half, back heel to Evra in second half. Considering he's barely played in months he put some of our regulars to shame.
Don't make him up to be something he wasn't. Yes he was better than Young but he was still poor.
No surprises with yesterday's performance. It's a catch 22 that there is no way out of, we know full well he takes several games to get into form, and he'll never get several games, so his United career is basically over, unless LVG happens to have Nani in mind as a key player.
The "several games to get into form" thing doesn't absolve Nani of blame, btw. It's a flaw in his own attributes. Shame though, as it's not actually an insurmountable issue.
The "several games to get into form" thing doesn't absolve Nani of blame, btw. It's a flaw in his own attributes. Shame though, as it's not actually an insurmountable issue.
van Gaal I think would prefer far more direct and productive wingers.
He was? I can´t remember the game but i trust your word.
Ah yes you are right, i remember that match now. Thks for the rectification.
That was the game I was talking about. He had a great game, all be it, against Luxemborg.
Well this season he has hardly gotten playing time but over the last few years barring injury he has to me been the second best player for Portugal.
Read that a Juve move is a done deal. Hope it is just a rumour I would like him to have one more chance under LVG.
I still believe if given a chance and a more important role he can be great
I still believe if given a chance and a more important role he can be great
Look mate i respect your opinion but the portuguese media and supporters are unanimous in considering Moutinho the second best player for Portugal. Even Pepe is a more important player since he never fails in the big moments. When Nani got injured and missed the WC 2010, Moutinho gradually became one of our most influencial players (combined with the sacking of Queiroz who wasn´t a fan of him).
I am willing to concede to your point and obvious greater knowledge about your national team. I was surprised he got the captaincy in front of them for the Luxemborg game but you got to admit he was MOTM and despite his fall from grace for Utd he is important for Portugal.
I admit it with no problem. I am a Nani fan. I´m grateful for everything he gave Sporting. Helped us achieve Champions League qualification and win Cups. Not only that but he was also responsible for our biggest transfer fee income. In the National team i also consider him a very important player. The point i was making was that at the moment there are other players who are more influencial but Nani remains an integral figure in our national team.
Agreed and settled. I am also a Nani fan and because of him and Ronaldo I try to watch every Portugal game. In fact until St Kitts makes it to the World Cup
Portugal has my support.He should leave but surely we can get more than €5m for him?!
It would be a travesty if he leaves and one of Young or Valencia stay.
Definitely needs to go. Better for him and United.
I don't think he has the mental strength to get back into it at United. The injuries appear to have affected his burst of pace (he's no slouch though).
I think there's a difference between being out of form and pretty much out of the team for two years. Best for everyone to go their separate ways.
Of course on paper he's the most talented of the bunch but it counts for nothing if it doesn't yield results.
I don't think he has the mental strength to get back into it at United. The injuries appear to have affected his burst of pace (he's no slouch though).
I think there's a difference between being out of form and pretty much out of the team for two years. Best for everyone to go their separate ways.
Of course on paper he's the most talented of the bunch but it counts for nothing if it doesn't yield results.
It's a tough one. As obvious as it seems that we need a clear out in wide positions, it would be counter intuitive to get rid of all three of them. It'd be difficult and very costly to find the right players as replacements but at the same time it's hard to see any of them improving or even getting back to where they once were.
I'm hoping we move away from the focus on crossing, but we definitely need a bit of pace and composure in wide positions to make the most of Mata, Rooney/RVP and the likely midfield reinforcements. I don't envy those tasked with finding the 5 or 6 players we need.
Better for him anyway. I don't know if Utd has the money to replace players of his quality on top of all the other players they need next year.
But he's never given a chance these days....shame.
I would think Nani's close ball control, dribbling and short passes would make him a great candidate to work with Mata/ Kagawa. in fact most of Europe's top teams utilize players with such skill.
I wouldn't mind getting rid of all 3 in truth. In theory they provide an option but practically two of them are complete rubbish and 3rd one is benched as soon as he has a bad game. We are not in Europe next season so having a big squad is not a necessity.
Fair point, but I can't say I have much more faith in Zaha, and Januzaj is a teenager. Behind that we'd be shoehorning the likes of Kagawa and Welbeck into positions they aren't as effective in.
5m?
wth?
wth?
He's not worth much more than that at the moment. And he must be on £100k + a week, so offloading him is all good.
"without playing well"
He wasn't good, was still far better than several regulars though.
Actually we clearly do want that, since we gave him a new contract then barely played him
He got injured. He was getting a decent amount of time and looked in Moyes' plans.
Before he got injured here are the playing times for our wingers in the league (according to transfermarkt):
Nani - 426 minutes
Young - 211
Welbeck - 551 (some centrally though)
Kagawa - 397 (some central too)
Adnan - 549
Valencia - 787 (some at RB)
So his playing time was about average. I don't think you can classify that as barely.
Nani hasn't been without chance here. He's played enough games. It just hasn't worked out for him. Very talented player who has never been able to escape the curse of the brain-fart. The fact he's defensively as useless as a wet sock hasn't helped as I think Valencia and to a lesser extent Young are more trusted to at least do a job defensively or at the very, very least - hold the line well. If Nani isn't brilliant he's often playing a stinker.
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