Every window half of Serie A seem to want to try and sign him
Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances
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Will almost certainly go in the summer though, won't he? Of all the expendable squad players we have you'd imagine he'd be one of the easiest to find a buyer for.
Crap.
WTF? This is getting silly, he's just never fit anymore.
Of course they ask him, I didn't say they don't ask him at all, but the club is the one who is selling player first. What if Tottenham told to Bale to pick United or Tottenham, you think he would stay?
He's been pointless for almost the entire time he has been here. Injuries and inconsistencies.
He's got some talent but nothing like some people here suggest. He's been competing with a bunch of average wingers at United so its not hard to look decent compared to them at times
The biggest evidence of this is the absolute lack of interest from other clubs for him last summer when he was on his last year of his contract and clearly available.
He's got some talent but nothing like some people here suggest. He's been competing with a bunch of average wingers at United so its not hard to look decent compared to them at times
The biggest evidence of this is the absolute lack of interest from other clubs for him last summer when he was on his last year of his contract and clearly available.
I think there's more to it, personally.
The whole things a bit weird.
The whole things a bit weird.
- Signs 5 year deal
- Doesn't get played ahead of Valencia when fit
- Has baby, injured the next day. Unrelated to vagina.
- Linked to Inter for the 2983 day running
- Ends up staying put and is declared injured for another month.
You mean apart from the years when he got a consistent run of games and was brilliant?
So yes, excluding absolutely all evidence to the contrary and based on completely made up 'lack of interest' he's shit.
this is getting ridiculous. nothing he can do because he want to be fit of course but he is so unfortunate these days.
I marvel how Kagawa and him get dropped after good games yet Valencia gets rewarded for shit games and Young gets rewarded for even a decent showing.
07/08: Consistent solid performances. Not spectacular but good.
08/09: Bad
09/10: Bad first half, world class second half
10/11: World class first half, average second half
11/12: Inconsisent
12/13: Bad
13/14: No show so far.
Kagawa doesn't fit to our team and Young/Valencia play as if they care. There's more of a chance that some scientist manages to find a cure for Aids out of oranges then for United to convince Nani to learn how to backtrack, tackle and work hard for the team.
Has there ever been a player who gets better by not playing? Nani has been here 7 seasons and had how many good ones? Very inconsistent player who can be very frustrating the love for him is similar to Anderson. I'd rather get rid and give Zaha a chance to shine.
That's bollocks. This crap gets repeated now and then. Defensively wise Nani is even better than Valencia beacasue he can take the ball forward without hoofing it up field.
No Nani isn't better defensively than Valencia Jim. Your negativity for Valencia is clouding your judgement
Except that he does all of that, you're like describing Ronaldo when he was at Utd with the freedom of play he was allowed. Nani is very much a typical winger with the defensive responsibilities that goes with it. I don't know what kinda Nani you've been watching during all this time.
Why do people always spout this? It's one of those things that never seem to go away, yet couldn't be further from the truth. Nani does track back. Just because he is not a defensively minded wide player and likes to create it doesn't mean he doesn't track back. In fact in his last full 90 he had more interceptions than anyone else on the pitch, now how could that happen if he wasn't bothered about helping out defensively?
Pretty annoyed about this injury. Feels like he is never going to be fit again. Valencia will continue to get a free pass every week because of a lack of proper options on the right. Young, Januzaj or even Mata could go there but I don't think moyes will see it that way.
It is bollocks indeed. Nani tracks back very well and puts in a great shift. I have also held him to be tactically very mature (marks his man well, does well in set piece situations etc). It's sad that he hasn't managed to reignite his form from 18 months ago, which was bloody good.
Why was first half of 09/10 bad, can't remember that. The previous two seasons I thought were fair enough as he was young and adapting to the league.
In 11/12 I thought he didn't hit the heights of the previous two seasons but went a bit underrated, if I remember correctly his output was either the same as Valencia who won poty for us or slightly better.
Then these last two seasons he's hardly played, certainly not consistently. I'd say given that I'd much rather see him given a chance to get back on track if he can stay for than Valencia/young who have largely been for for these two seasons, been oven consistent runs and continually under performed bad the odd game.
He signed a 5 year deal so that he wouldn't leave on a free this summer. I don't think Moyes rates him. The lack of suitors besides links from Italy also suggests no clubs rate him either. Galatasaray only wanted to pay 7m or something daft like that. I think he didn't leave the club on loan because he wasn't fit. If he wasn't injured, would have gone on loan/permanent deal.
You haven't explained why he had a baby.
Feels like he's been out for months with hamstring injuries. Like Giggsy back in the day.
Already answered that question about a dozen times in this thread, so not going to bother again.
Has there ever been a more circular thread with people set on one side or the other of a very simple argument?
Are you saying Nani did a special cuddle?
(Cue joke about him not shooting hopelessly off-target from outside the box for once)
(Cue joke about him not shooting hopelessly off-target from outside the box for once)
I feel the same way.
Hope the fab four will start today.
And it's already been defended a dozen times and Nani hasn't done anything to dispel that theory that he should be moved on. Talented boy no doubt but not worthy of his billing, good squad player if he could keep fit and be happy but doubt either to be proved correct as he seems to be coasting at united.
Wrong thread.
I'm not sure thats the correct thinking for a good club. It should be about which players are most useful. If we cant find a buyer for Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia, it shows what a joke it is for them to be playing every week for us
Nani has been certain to go for the last two years now. I'm not sure if his stock has fallen so dramatically that Moyes will sell him after just giving him a 5yr contract. He's probably over-rated on the Caf but he's a good player. The last page indicates that we rejected loan offers from Inter and Milan for him so it means that Moyes still rates him. The injuries haven't helped his cause at all, this season has been a stop-start for him. He has been injured, then slowly been bought into action and then has been injured again.
Moyes is desparate to get rid of him, even for free.
I have watched Nani life (ie at a stadium) around 5 - 6 times. He never striked me as a player whose capable (actually the right word would be willing) to do any defensive duties. He's as lazy as feck and wouldn't backtrack even if the opponent is around 3-4 meters away from him. Thats causes frustration even to the away fans who are renowned for their loyalty to our cause.
I dont want to be caught in the Valencia vs Nani debate. In my opinion both players shouldn't be playing at United.
Nani tracks back plenty, like Young and Valencia he's prone to the occasional lapse in concentration and letting someone go. Valencia is more aggressive and wins more tackles. Thats your lot.
Tbh the way I see it is out of the top clubs around us there's no way Nani is one of the worst ones at tracking back, even if he's not Valencia/Young levels at the very least he does his job. Plus in all honesty at the moment we seem to be putting far too much thought in to how well our winger will cover his fullback compared to how well will he threaten them on the ball and make them think twice about over-committing on that side anyway.
I've been watching us live home and away for years and it's a complete myth. He's much more defensively disciplined than people give him credit for in terms of tracking back and keeping the shape of the side. Sometimes when he's far up the pitch and loses the ball he doesn't race back and foul someone a la Rooney/Tevez which frustrates people but that's essentially an entirely different situation. People assume that because he's the sort of player that loves a trick and loves taking players on, he's also the sort that doesn't track back. Completely false.
The thing is Young levels are like the tooth fairy. He tracks back no more than the likes of Nani and Hazard. Someone just decided once that the reason he gets picked must be because he tracks back and its just been passed on like an urban legend
Lucky you
There's a difference between fouling someone and chasing the ball, keeping the opposition under pressure and tracking back. From what I've seen Nani doesn't do that.
And I think that the typical United supporter can distinguish between a player who loves a trick and a player who doesn't backtrack. If that wasn't the case the likes of Ryan Giggs would have had a difficult time at OT.
11/12 he wasn't inconsistent. He wasn't as amazing as previous but he was still good. There was lots of rotation between Young, Valencia and Nani until Valencia had the amazing second half of the season.
I don't know if anyone has listened to The Game podcast live from Manchester a few days ago, but James Ducker was on and on the subject of Nani they asked why he had been given a new contract and he said the indications were that it was done with preserving his value, that there were talks to let him go on loan during the window and he's very likely to go during the summer.
EDIT: Around 29 mins in.
EDIT: Around 29 mins in.
Oh ffs. One of the few things Moyes has done right so far I feel is convincing Nani to stay on. Hope this isn't true.
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