Luis Nani | 2013/14 Performances

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First Fabio and now Nani? If so I'm not liking the squad decisions so far; I suppose Anderson was inevitable at some point but Nani just has too much talent to be shipped out without being given a proper chance under Moyes.
 
The club had to protect his value. They couldn't even get 10m for him in the summer. Now on a new deal, we can get a decent fee for him.

He would also need to have been favoured with the support of the manager by way of regular football to achieve that.
 
if we are going to let him go, then it has to be next summer. maybe he could be included in a deal that will bring us a world class CM.

no point of loaning him out now though.
 
Moyes has complained about not scoring enough especially at home and he'd be getting rid of a player that can really help in that department would be madness.

Unless he really has become a player that will continue to have injury issues, we need to keep him. Let's not forget that Mata can't play in the CL.
 
70%?:lol:

That's football manager at its finest. How on earth can you justify letting that amount go?

It's really hard to sell 70% of your players in FM14 :(. I had to let Anderson go for £2million....no bids. Nani went for £3million and all...
 
Why are so many of you so sure this is true? Moyes said he didn't want to loan Zaha due to limited wing options so he's not likely to offload Zaha and Nani is he? Not unless someone is coming in anyway.
 
You can understand why he might be pushing for the move, he's only made twice the number of appearances of Wilf Zaha in the league after all.

I remember SW saying in another thread how Moyes sometimes takes against a player almost right away, Nani may be just such a n example.
 
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Maybe if Inter are interested in taking him on loan that is evidence that his injury outlook isnt actually all that bad, as in, he is injured but expected back in the not-too-distant future? Maybe the main problem for him here is that Moyes doesnt trust him and there are other managers that would give him more of a chance, meaning he would be in the shop window without Moyes feeling he needs to jeopardise our chances by playing him?
 
Maybe if Inter are interested in taking him on loan that is evidence that his injury outlook isnt actually all that bad, as in, he is injured but expected back in the not-too-distant future? Maybe the main problem for him here is that Moyes doesnt trust him and there are other managers that would give him more of a chance, meaning he would be in the shop window without Moyes feeling he needs to jeopardise our chances by playing him?

He'd be of more value to us actually out on the pitch but yes, if we are now looking to sell Nani he must have the opportunity of regular appearances. Perhaps he is barely injured at all and merely out of favour.

Hardly ideal though that one of his last memorable moments ta the club could be being booed off as a sub by his own support.
 
You can understand why he might be pushing for the move, he's only made twice the number of appearances of Wilf Zaha in the league after all.

I remember SW saying in another thread how Moyes sometimes takes against a plyaer almost right away, Nani may be just such a player and it's a waste.

if that was right, would he offer him a five year contract?
 
When was the last time the club released any detailed information regarding this injury of his?

If it was all that serious Inter wouldn't be pursuign the matter [assuming they are].
 
He'd be of more value to us actually out on the pitch

That's a matter of opinion. Im not saying a disagree with it, I kind of agree with it but not strongly. Im quite ambivalent about Nani to be honest. Ive been as excited about him and frustrated by him as others at times in the past, Ive probably been unduly harsh on him at times and its taken me a while to get over his inconsistencies and give him credit for the performances he has given us. Ive probably been a little less enthusiastic than the median caftard on the whole, but of late I have started to look back, possibly with rose tinted glasses, quite longingly, and imagined he is exactly what we need, that he could be the missing piece in the jigsaw, so to speak. Another part of me thinks if he was playing more regularly Id probably just go back to feeling massively frustrated with him as I used to, when I got into arguments on here about it, about his "decision making" and "intelligence", when he seems to shoot from impossible angles when someone is square for a much easier shot, or when he goes off on one of his mazey dribbles that invariably ends with him being dispossessed. But as I say, from where we are now, it would be quite nice to see someone dribbling with the ball or taking lots of shots at goal, it would make a nice change.

I know it is a lazy line of argument and I am not trying to settle this discussion by bringing it up but it does come back to the fact that, for all his injuries, it does seem almost certain that SAF had trust issues with Nani, and Moyes seems to share them. On the other side of the coin you have Valencia, everyone groans in unison that he is shit, the worst player ever to play for us, one footed, a one trick pony, easy to play against, yadda yadda yadda. But why are the people who have actually dedicated their lives to football, who manage at the highest level and make millions from their demonstrable skills in this field, seeing things differently to everyone on here? As I said I know you can make this point about anything and it is pointless discussing anything on a messageboard if you take the view that you cant disagree with the manager. But this is such a long running case, and there is such a clear cut difference between not one but two managers and the vast majority of this community at least (not sure how representative this place is of fans generally), I feel it is an interesting question. My theory is though he is talented he is unpredictable, which I guess is great as a supporter getting you out of your seat, but not as a manager trying to get people to follow a specific gameplan. I wonder if he has trouble following the instructions his managers give him, he is told to do one thing and does something else? Itd be nice to have a neat explanation like that.

I thought Moyes might feel differently about Nani, hence the new contract. Im sure Nani felt confident he would be given a chance, or I dont think he would have signed it. But as time goes by I just dont think it is going to pan out for him which is a shame. But anyway, to bring it back to what you said, I dont know if Moyes would agree with your characterisation that Nani would be most value to us on the pitch. I hope that isnt true though and Moyes is being genuinely open minded about him as he said he would be about all the players. Id love to think the problems he has had in recent years all derive from injury problems and the resulting problems finding some form, and that we might see the Nani we saw for a season or so, some years ago. But once someone's problems have gone on this long I tend to think it is very unlikely they will come back from them. Occasionally you are proved wrong but it seems like you hit more often than you miss with that mindset.
 
but of late I have started to look back, possibly with rose tinted glasses, quite longingly, and imagined he is exactly what we need, that he could be the missing piece in the jigsaw, so to speak. Another part of me thinks if he was playing more regularly Id probably just go back to feeling massively frustrated with him as I used to, when I got into arguments on here about it, about his "decision making" and "intelligence", when he seems to shoot from impossible angles when someone is square for a much easier shot, or when he goes off on one of his mazey dribbles that invariably ends with him being dispossessed. But as I say, from where we are now, it would be quite nice to see someone dribbling with the ball or taking lots of shots at goal, it would make a nice change.

It would indeed. :)

Unpredictability is the operative word with Nani now more than ever, yet i cant' help but think that with our need for better creativity that he could still be an asset. Besides Januzaj the competition stands at Kagawa who flatters to deceive when out wide [and also a bit out of favour], our footballing rook in Valencia, and Ashley Young who offers up either a notorious dive or goal every few matches.


I thought Moyes might feel differently about Nani, hence the new contract. Im sure Nani felt confident he would be given a chance, or I dont think he would have signed it. But as time goes by I just dont think it is going to pan out for him which is a shame. But anyway, to bring it back to what you said, I dont know if Moyes would agree with your characterisation that Nani would be most value to us on the pitch. I hope that isnt true though and Moyes is being genuinely open minded about him as he said he would be about all the players. Id love to think the problems he has had in recent years all derive from injury problems and the resulting problems finding some form, and that we might see the Nani we saw for a season or so, some years ago. But once someone's problems have gone on this long I tend to think it is very unlikely they will come back from them. Occasionally you are proved wrong but it seems like you hit more often than you miss with that mindset.

I too thought that the new contract might signal some sort of renaissance or at least an effort in the quarter, in the end that hasn't come to pass which is potentially damning for one of the parties involved. If we have reached the end of this tale at United then why not Inter.
 
Talk of Nani possibly going to Spurs on loan. Would be slightly mental to give him to a top four rival, surely?

This shit gets better by the day. WHy on gods green earth would we allow Nani to go to Spurs, on loan, when we are in direct competition with them for (still depressing to say) fourth place? It absolutely baffles.
 
Great, lets send an injured player out on loan.

He's, apparently, injured, no one is going to take him on loan ffs!

Would you take Aaron Ramsey on loan? No, he's injured, there's no point is there?
Well if he's not far away from a return and the last chance to get him is tomorrow, I wouldn't say it's completely out of the question. Might miss a few weeks but there's still 4 months left in the season.
 
Well if he's not far away from a return and the last chance to get him is tomorrow, I wouldn't say it's completely out of the question. Might miss a few weeks but there's still 4 months left in the season.

Wouldn't he fail a medical?
 
I might be wrong but loaning him now means he won't play against us, whereas selling him now means he might be able to face United(?)
 
The transfer window wouldn't be the same without some BS rumours of Nani leaving to some Italian club. Personally, I wouldn't believe any Nani rumours until he's actually gone.
 
So is he actually off to inter / juve this time or is it just the normal paper talk?

surely in a world cup year he will be keen to get some games and the emergence of adan and the addition of mata is only going to curtail his opportunities here
 
Signs an improved 5 year contract is going to get loaned out? Talk about no value.
 
Tottenham are one of several clubs offered the chance to sign Portugal winger Nani from Manchester United, it emerged today.

But any deal would be difficult to push through in the hours that remain before the deadline. It is believed Nani would prefer to move to Serie A, where Inter Milan and Juventus have expressed an interest, while Spurs would prefer a loan deal, with United keen to sell the player who is considered surplus to requirements by manager David Moyes

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...ed-manchester-united-winger-nani-9098825.html
 
It would make no sense loaning him out. By loaning him out, thus effectively not giving him much of a chance, and selling Fabio without giving him a chance by playing Büttner ahead of him, might cause a few supporters to get on Moyes' back.

Also, why sign a five year deal if Moyes doesn't have faith in him?
 
I really hope we never do any business with Spurs ever again after their shambolic behavior in poaching Zeki Fryers from our club, specially now that they have no player that I'd like to see at United.

Fergie confirmed he/United will never work any business with them after that, I don't know if Moyes thinks the same though.
 
Spurs? feck off. We're competing with them for 4th, last thing we want to do is sell them one of our players.
 
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