Luis Nani | 2010/11 Performances

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Couldnt get into the game today.
Wasnt as much involved as I would have liked but he was taken out of the game pretty well and also didnt get too many balls.

Not something we should worry about though.
 
Red Defence said:
Not early on he didn't. You're talking about his last season or two here aren't you.

There were plenty of times he was marked out of games. Don't know how you can say otherwise.
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Well yeah, I'm not exclusively referring to his first few seasons for United. Which is the point really. Somebody pointed out that Ronaldo learned how to cope with being doubled up on and Nani will need to do the same. Which is true.
 
Nani on Paul Scholes

Paul Scholes' return to action this week will be welcomed by everyone in the United dressing room, not least Nani.

The latter waxes lyrical about the veteran Reds midfielder in this month's Inside United magazine, listing him as one of his five favourite players in world football.

"Scholesy is just incredible and it's a privilege to be in the same squad," gushed Nani.

“I said to him the other day in training: ‘Scholesy, you should have stayed at home because you are playing alone.’ What I mean is that he makes a pass to one wing, goes to support and gets the ball. Then he makes a pass to the other wing, goes to support and gets the ball again – all the time he’s in control of the play.

"The other team don’t get near the ball, even in training. They are playing just against him!"

Bury Reserves might testify to that, having been on the receiving end of Scholes' artistry at Carrington in a rearranged Manchester Senior Cup tie. Paul played for an hour on his comeback from a groin injury and created the pick of Gabriel Obertan's hat-trick in United's 8-0 win with a 40-yard chip.

Nani continued: "He’s the best midfielder I’ve ever seen. He can pass, score goals with his left, right, his head – he can do anything. And he can beat a player too, plus he loves to nutmeg you! He's unbelievable."
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Some nice words from Nani there.
 
Nice words, as usual from him. In all his interviews Nani comes across as grounded, humble and decent. Bags of talent and a good head on him, he can acheive whatever he wants to at this club.
 
There's been a dip in Nani's form recently. It's to be expected I guess. Hopefully he can get back to his early season form soon though.

He'll need to learn how to handle the special treatment he get's from side now.
 
Laphroaig said:
Nice words, as usual from him. In all his interviews Nani comes across as grounded, humble and decent. Bags of talent and a good head on him, he can acheive whatever he wants to at this club.
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Yeah, but apparently he's a cnut off the pitch according to a few experts on the caf.
 
SharkyMcShark said:
Two games doesn't make a dip cw.

Against Liverpool and Spurs he was not great but the match before he set up the first and scored the winner.
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He's been under par for more than two games.

It's great thats he's reached a level where he can create/score goals while not playing well but it would be nice to see him back to his very best some time soon.
 
I think the dip has had more to do with us meeting some rather difficult opponents where none of our attackers have really been at their best:

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[U][B]Date 	Oppo 	 	Cup 	Result 	Goal 	Assist 	MOTM 	Sub[/B][/U]
16-jan	A-Tottenham	PL 	D 0-0 	0	0	0 votes	Off 61'
09-jan	H-Liverpool 	FAC 	W 1-0 	0	0	0 votes	Started
04-jan	H-Stoke City 	PL 	W 2-1 	1	1	1st	Started
13-dec	H-Arsenal 	PL 	W 1-0 	0	1	7th	Started
07-dec	H-Valencia 	CL 	D 1-1 	0	0	0 votes	Off 81'
27-nov	H-Blackburn	PL 	W 7-1 	1	1	2nd	Started
24-nov	A-Rangers 	CL 	W 0-1 	0	0	5th	Off 77'
20-nov	H-Wigan		PL 	W 2-0 	0	0	9th	Started
13-nov	A-Aston Villa 	PL 	D 2-2 	0	1	7th	Started
10-nov	A-Man City 	PL 	D 0-0 	0	0	0 votes	Started

Nani match log - Caf MotM Stats
 
I think he's just found it hard to find his rhythm in the last few games, but he's hasn't shirked his defensive duties or dropped his head which I think is a sign of good progress, he also hasn't been wasteful when in possession of the ball.

I think although he hasn't been his usual best the last few games I like the fact that he isn't getting disheartened or frustrated.
 
SharkyMcShark said:
Two games doesn't make a dip cw.

Against Liverpool and Spurs he was not great but the match before he set up the first and scored the winner.
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It's been more than 2 games. The good thing about Nani though is that he is still dangerous when off form. The Stoke game was a perfect example of that. He didn't play well that game but, as you have already pointed out, he was probably MOTM in that he was key in both goals scored.
 
Top said:
I think the dip has had more to do with us meeting some rather difficult opponents where none of our attackers have really been at their best:

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[U][B]Date 	Oppo 	 	Cup 	Result 	Goal 	Assist 	MOTM 	Sub[/B][/U]
16-jan	A-Tottenham	PL 	D 0-0 	0	0	0 votes	Off 61'
09-jan	H-Liverpool 	FAC 	W 1-0 	0	0	0 votes	Started
04-jan	H-Stoke City 	PL 	W 2-1 	1	1	1st	Started
13-dec	H-Arsenal 	PL 	W 1-0 	0	1	7th	Started
07-dec	H-Valencia 	CL 	D 1-1 	0	0	0 votes	Off 81'
27-nov	H-Blackburn	PL 	W 7-1 	1	1	2nd	Started
24-nov	A-Rangers 	CL 	W 0-1 	0	0	5th	Off 77'
20-nov	H-Wigan		PL 	W 2-0 	0	0	9th	Started
13-nov	A-Aston Villa 	PL 	D 2-2 	0	1	7th	Started
10-nov	A-Man City 	PL 	D 0-0 	0	0	0 votes	Started

Nani match log - Caf MotM Stats
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Yeah, those stats confirm what I thought. He hasn't put in a really top performance since the 7-1 against Blackburn, back in November. He was the best of a bad bunch against Stoke.

Still productive though, by and large. Which is the main thing.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, those stats confirm what I thought. He hasn't put in a really top performance since the 7-1 against Blackburn, back in November. He was the best of a bad bunch against Stoke.

Still productive though, by and large. Which is the main thing.
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Exactly. Which is why I was disappointed when he was taken off in the Spurs game.
 
Top said:
I think the dip has had more to do with us meeting some rather difficult opponents where none of our attackers have really been at their best:

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[U][B]Date 	Oppo 	 	Cup 	Result 	Goal 	Assist 	MOTM 	Sub[/B][/U]
16-jan	A-Tottenham	PL 	D 0-0 	0	0	0 votes	Off 61'
09-jan	H-Liverpool 	FAC 	W 1-0 	0	0	0 votes	Started
04-jan	H-Stoke City 	PL 	W 2-1 	1	1	1st	Started
13-dec	H-Arsenal 	PL 	W 1-0 	0	1	7th	Started
07-dec	H-Valencia 	CL 	D 1-1 	0	0	0 votes	Off 81'
27-nov	H-Blackburn	PL 	W 7-1 	1	1	2nd	Started
24-nov	A-Rangers 	CL 	W 0-1 	0	0	5th	Off 77'
20-nov	H-Wigan		PL 	W 2-0 	0	0	9th	Started
13-nov	A-Aston Villa 	PL 	D 2-2 	0	1	7th	Started
10-nov	A-Man City 	PL 	D 0-0 	0	0	0 votes	Started

Nani match log - Caf MotM Stats
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Top, could you post the MotM stats about the "big" games: Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Spurs? It would be interesting to see who has performed consistently good in the big games. I guess Vidic has been the best this season in that respect but still it would be interesting to know.
 
Treble said:
Top, could you post the MotM stats about the "big" games: Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Spurs? It would be interesting to see who has performed consistently good in the big games. I guess Vidic has been the best this season in that respect but still it would be interesting to know.
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A bit of a rushed job, but this page should be able to give you the wanted info: Aginst X opponent - Caf MotM Stats

And cheers on a good idea for a sub page.
 
Anyone else think he was really similar to Ronaldo today? Was somewhat selfish by taking on a lot of shots but didn't rest until he got his goal, which was a beauty in all honesty. Kind of like Ronaldo when he would relentlessly take shots until he found one - that's one of the reasons his goal tally was so high.
 
No other winger in the prem can come inside and curl one into the corner on his weaker foot on a consistent basis, it's what makes him such a threat.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
His end product was dire today but he ended up scoring one and put another on a plate for Rooney. That's how good he is now. The most effective winger in the league IMO.
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If he could get an end product more often, which he should as he gets into so many good positions and he has the ability, then his potential is frightening.
 
Aye, finds a goal and almost an during a game where he struggled with his end product massively, a brilliant asset to have. How many more goals will he have to have a hand in before he shakes off the 'inconsistent' tag?
 
Got a goal and should have had an assist- that would be considered superb end product for a winger usually. I don't understand all the criticism he got today, we were 4-0 up when he started to get selfish- Ronaldo would have done the exact same thing. We could afford a bit of selfishness, and Nani's desire to get a goal was nice to see. No one else seems to have the balls to shoot from outside the box half the time, and I like when a player can have a poor game by their standards and still have full confidence in their abilities.

Plus Rooney really shouldn't have been moaning as much as he was, considering Nani gave him an open goal. Still, hopefully Rooney was just expelling his anger at not getting a goal as well, and it was nothing personal towards Nani.
 
SmashedHombre said:
Got a goal and should have had an assist- that would be considered superb end product for a winger usually. I don't understand all the criticism he got today, we were 4-0 up when he started to get selfish- Ronaldo would have done the exact same thing. We could afford a bit of selfishness, and Nani's desire to get a goal was nice to see. No one else seems to have the balls to shoot from outside the box half the time, and I like when a player can have a poor game by their standards and still have full confidence in their abilities.

Plus Rooney really shouldn't have been moaning as much as he was, considering Nani gave him an open goal. Still, hopefully Rooney was just expelling his anger at not getting a goal as well, and it was nothing personal towards Nani.
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I agree with that, I like to see long range efforts taken on, I wish more of our players would do it.
 
Cantona07 said:
How many of you thought he would get a mouthful from his team mates for being selfish???????

I felt if he was in good positions to pass to Rooney / Berba. If he had done we porbably would have won by a bigger margin.
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Owen was getting very frustrated.
 
He just needs to get the balance right. He was a little too selfish today, although nowhere near as much as the commentators and, at times, his own team-mates seemed to think. Berba was a long way offside on one occasion Nani took a shot, yet still threw a bit of a strop about it not being passed to him. I noticed Rooney also threw up his hands in exasperation one time despite Nani making the correct decision (in that particular instance) to take it himself.

There were definitely a couple of instances where he should've made the pass/cross rather than taking it himself though.
 
SmashedHombre said:
Got a goal and should have had an assist- that would be considered superb end product for a winger usually. I don't understand all the criticism he got today, we were 4-0 up when he started to get selfish- Ronaldo would have done the exact same thing. We could afford a bit of selfishness, and Nani's desire to get a goal was nice to see. No one else seems to have the balls to shoot from outside the box half the time, and I like when a player can have a poor game by their standards and still have full confidence in their abilities.

Plus Rooney really shouldn't have been moaning as much as he was, considering Nani gave him an open goal. Still, hopefully Rooney was just expelling his anger at not getting a goal as well, and it was nothing personal towards Nani.
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It wasn't just selfishness and it started long before we were 4 nil up.

His final ball was poor all day. Apart from that one great cross to Rooney (which came after an unnecessary amount of fannying around) he didn't put in a good cross all game. Which must have been frustrating for his team-mates, because he got in some excellent positions.

Still incredibly productive though. Which is all that matters. So long as he keeps scoring/creating a couple of times every game like he did today then the rest of the performance doesn't really matter.
 
Name Changed said:
Owen was getting very frustrated.
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See, that was another occasion where I thought Nani did the right thing (if you're talking about the occasion I think you are). There was a defender very well placed between them who would probably have cut out any pass across the box to Owen. So Nani did the right thing in taking it himself.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It wasn't just selfishness and it started long before we were 4 nil up.

His final ball was poor all day. Apart from that one great cross to Rooney (which came after an unnecessary amount of fannying around) he didn't put in a good cross all game. Which must have been frustrating for his team-mates, because he got in some excellent positions.

Still incredibly productive though. Which is all that matters. So long as he keeps scoring/creating a couple of times every game like he did today then the rest of the performance doesn't really matter.
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Spot on, apart from the fannying about bit, I thought he did well to make space. His crossing was awful before that, that is when he tried to cross it at all.

Forget the sitter Rooney missed, any one of us would have been moaning at him. It must be incredibly annoying to make runs when you're 90% sure he's going to hog the ball and then spank it into the stand.

But then he does something amazing. It's like what Sir Bobby says about playing with Best... "George, you greedy, selfish bloody... what a goal."
 
MadDogg said:
See, that was another occasion where I thought Nani did the right thing (if you're talking about the occasion I think you are). There was a defender very well placed between them who would probably have cut out any pass across the box to Owen. So Nani did the right thing in taking it himself.
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There were a few occasions when Nani had the ball and Owen was in a great position and Nani didn't pass/cross it to him for an easy chance. Owen was visibly frustrated and actually ran back to foul a couple of times out of what I can only presume was annoyance/frustration.
 
Just felt like he was looking for that moment of glory for himself especially after Berba, Rooney and Giggs were involved in our opening goals.

What I liked today about him was he ran really hard with the ball but, wish he had taken some of the simpler options that were available. When Berba's 3rd went in he didn't look like he celebrated much and Berba just kind of turned his back when Nani's shot went in. Something to stoke the Nani and Berba don't like each other much.

Personally I wish the rest of the team would indulge him just a little more because that individual brilliance he brings is something that can often win us games.
 
kouroux said:
Even on a bad day Nani is still capable of providing either goals or goalscoring opportunities.
It says it all tbh
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Exactly. It's the hallmark of a top player and he's becoming one. Some awful final balls today and yet such a productive player.
 
This is the difference in Nani now, he's still wasteful, but he kept getting the ball, because the rest of the team knows, the next time around, he might do something amazing. To his credit, he doesn't hide from it either, you'd think he'd be frustrated, yet he kept going too...
 
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