Love him, but would like to see him stay behind after training for some extra corner practice...
Luis Nani | 2010/11 Performances
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The likes of Pullis and Allardyce could teach us a shedload about corners and freekicks. It's not just about having big men, it's about percentages.
Then again Chelsea have Drogba taking their corners, thick or what?
What happened with Ronaldo was that he was clear and far away, the best player in the best team of the League that season. It wasn't so much the ABU journo's seeing sense of their own volition, but that they simply had to!
Nani is probably at the level that Ronnie was that season, the only problem is that theres another player in the final third who has done as much, if not more than him so far this season: Berbatov. Ronaldo didnt really have that problem because the team was literally built around him. Hence, he shined, while the others did their bit, particularly Rooney and Saha when he was fit. Nani hasn't been afforded that same luxury yet, but doubtless he will do soon, as he is simply too good to be played as a conventional winger. He's pretty much a playmaker deployed on the wing atm, let him roam and he will be up there with the game's elite IMHO.
Surely not based on tonight's game? We played nearly every one short
No, not in particular. His first effort when he shoe-ed Giggs away and took it went over everyone and straight out of play though. In general, his corners are either cut out by the first defender or too long for anyone to get on the end of. He's not the only one, but we are in dire need of improvement in that area still and with the prescision and skill we know Nani posesses, he really ought to be doing better at them.
The more I see that goal, the more it reminds me of this one
Not so much the angle, but the way the defenders back off both of them simply through fear of their close control. Don't think I've seen better dribbling or close control from a player since Ronaldinho in his prime IMHO.. A majestic player who hopefully will be here for a long time yet
Love Nani and all and each to their own but bloody hell...
Steady on...
The thing is, I'm not sure if SAF will ever play him in a more central role. Ronaldo's strength was putting the ball in the back of the net whereas Nani's seems to be providing assists to his teammates. Nani might excel goal-scoring wise if he is played more centrally, but it is more beneficial for the team if he plays on the wing.
The more I see that goal, the more it reminds me of this one
Not so much the angle, but the way the defenders back off both of them simply through fear of their close control. Don't think I've seen better dribbling or close control from a player since Ronaldinho in his prime IMHO.. A majestic player who hopefully will be here for a long time yet
Surely that's a bit OTT - Berbatov, Messi, Ronaldo, Robben, and a host of other players have better close control and dribbling than Nani. Nani is getting much better by the day though.
Name me a better dribbler or someone with better close control playing today...
People will say Messi, Robben etc, but they dribble at speed, and tbh, your more likely to get the ball off them at the start of the run, when they havent built up their momentum. I've never seen defenders be put under pressure by them in a standing start. Now, look at the way defenders are in literally fits when Nani has the ball in a standing position, he's not even running or even walking. He's dead still... Truly remarkable, kinda reminds me of Garrincha.
Like this, 39 seconds in:
People will say Messi, Robben etc, but they dribble at speed, and tbh, your more likely to get the ball off them at the start of the run, when they havent built up their momentum. I've never seen defenders be put under pressure by them in a standing start. Now, look at the way defenders are in literally fits when Nani has the ball in a standing position, he's not even running or even walking. He's dead still... Truly remarkable, kinda reminds me of Garrincha.
Like this, 39 seconds in:
The only one I agree with there is messi, I think Nani now has better control of the his dribbles than the goal machine that is Ronnie. Robben is very much hit and run from a standing start, Berba dribbles so slowly it's hard not to have great control, he generally struggles to beat players when he has to up the pace (for example when the Stoke lad played him in tonight).
You're either completely hammered or you don't watch a lot of football but I can't believe someone's seriously saying this about Messi.
Messi is at his most dangerous from a standing start, he scares the shit out of defenders
Look at Dinho's goal again. See how the defenders back off him, giving him space, even though common sense would dictate not to do so. That was because he had the ability to make them look like fools through his dribbles. He could literally go in any direction from the standing start. Arsenal pressed up against him last season at the Emirates, and we all know how that turned out... Now, we see defenders literally flinching and twitching and backing off and backing off him, literally because they know that Nani can go off in any direction.
Also, Ronaldo... Never been a great dribbler. Horribly inconsistent in that aspect. For every Fulham Away in 2007, there were 10 dribbles which overran. He's not that player anymore, he plays to his strengths, which are finishing and off-the-ball movement.
I probably didnt write it too clearly, not dribbling per se, but dribbling from a standing start. Messi has done things in a similar fashion, but not as consistently as Ronaldinho did it, or how Nani is seemingly doing it now. When Messi has done similar, its when he is in the direct vicinity of the box, where defenders are afraid to make tackles due to a fear of giving away a penalty, multiply that fear by 100 in Messi's case. While Nani does similar things from a standing position when he is about 40-50 yards away from goal. Defenders dont have to worry about mistimed tackles so much, yet we still see them backing off, simply because they dont want to be embarrassed like Clichy and Nasri were at the Emirates last season.
Messi is at his best when he has momentum. When he is at the start of his run, its a little easier to dispossess (a little!)...
Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying Nani is better than Messi, just that in this aspect of dribbling, Nani seems a little more accomplished to me. Messi is still by far and away the better player overall.
Ronaldo's feet are just quicker than Nani's. Technically I'm not sure. But Ronaldo is fast and sharper with all his movement, and for me more threatening to defenders.
As I say I don't know how much flicks and tricks Nani has, and if he's better technically than Ronaldo in this area, but Ronaldo does and did seem sharper.
Ronaldo also for me has a better shot, but for Nani, that could come with time. I will say though Nani looks a lot more powerful than Ronnie, and it's unfortionate this aspect of his game is wasted on the wing.
There's a lot left to see from this lad, and the comparrisons with Ronaldo are obvious. In a nutshell, if both are based around a similar conccept; Ronaldo has an added speed and goal threat, where as Nani is more powerful and who knows if better technically.
As I say I don't know how much flicks and tricks Nani has, and if he's better technically than Ronaldo in this area, but Ronaldo does and did seem sharper.
Ronaldo also for me has a better shot, but for Nani, that could come with time. I will say though Nani looks a lot more powerful than Ronnie, and it's unfortionate this aspect of his game is wasted on the wing.
There's a lot left to see from this lad, and the comparrisons with Ronaldo are obvious. In a nutshell, if both are based around a similar conccept; Ronaldo has an added speed and goal threat, where as Nani is more powerful and who knows if better technically.
No way is Nani more powerful than Ronaldo, maybe he has better balance because he's shorter but thats about it.
Hard to compare Ronaldo and Nani now as one is a pure winger, getting crosses in and scoring at times while the other is a goal scorer type winger which is on a free role...
I'd say when it comes to wing play, beating the man or putting the right cross in at the right time, Nani could fractionly be a bit better,
But if it comes to goal scoring, who can stop Ronaldo ? I'd say he has scored more goals than matches for Real... I mean the La Liga defense ( Looking closely Catania made school boy errors ) is horrible as it is, but scoring that amount of goals is some feat and he should be proud with his record.
I'd say when it comes to wing play, beating the man or putting the right cross in at the right time, Nani could fractionly be a bit better,
But if it comes to goal scoring, who can stop Ronaldo ? I'd say he has scored more goals than matches for Real... I mean the La Liga defense ( Looking closely Catania made school boy errors ) is horrible as it is, but scoring that amount of goals is some feat and he should be proud with his record.
He's built like a battering ram.
Powerful in terms of what ? Upper body strength ? Or body balance ? Overall physique ?
Powerful as in, if you ran headfirst into an oncoming train you would have more chance of derailing it. Or in the tackle, shouldering or whatever.
He's shorter and better built, logic suggests he would be more poweful.
I didn't mean quicker or better stamina, I guess I meant strength.
Have you ever seen Ronaldo? Nani may be well built now but Ronaldo is still much stockier than Nani, if you're secure with your sexuality I'm sure you can Google Ronaldo shirtless and see for yourself.
10 goals and 21 assists in 2010.
One of each last night.
United have not lost any of the last 42 Barclays Premier League games Nani has started.
One of each last night.
United have not lost any of the last 42 Barclays Premier League games Nani has started.
He's a machine. The thing that impresses me the most about Nani is that despite all of his attacking abilities he's ruddy brilliant at tracking back too.
The more I see that goal, the more it reminds me of this one
Not so much the angle, but the way the defenders back off both of them simply through fear of their close control. Don't think I've seen better dribbling or close control from a player since Ronaldinho in his prime IMHO.. A majestic player who hopefully will be here for a long time yet
one of my favourite non united goals that one from ronaldinho love how checz doesnt even have time to dive..
nanis was superb will need him in this form for the rest of the season
Great comeback from him last night - I thought he had an excellent game, doesn't look like he'd lose the ball at all whenever going one-on-one's.
Forming quite a partnership with Rafael on our right side.
Forming quite a partnership with Rafael on our right side.
He looked refreshed last night, the little lay-off has done him good.
Kind of felt sorry for Nani today because it seemed like no one wanted to pass the ball to him.
That was probably because Giggs was majestic on the left though.
That was probably because Giggs was majestic on the left though.
Nothing really worked for Nani today.
He wasn't helped that in the second half there was a patch of the field on the right that seemed to be a skating rink. Everybody was slipping over when they hit it, and it was just in the area where Nani would be looking to start attacking the defence.
The pitch was a bit poor tonight. Has there been a lot of rain in Manchester lately (more than usual)?
He wasn't helped that in the second half there was a patch of the field on the right that seemed to be a skating rink. Everybody was slipping over when they hit it, and it was just in the area where Nani would be looking to start attacking the defence.
The pitch was a bit poor tonight. Has there been a lot of rain in Manchester lately (more than usual)?
Or rather, because our central midfield forgot how to pass the ball in general
Nani is always a threat, that is what I like.
Didn't help that he'd have to deal with Aurelio, Lucas and Kuyt on him the moment he showed for the ball.
Yes, he had 3 players surround him almost every time he took the ball over on the wing.
Far too inconsistent for my liking...
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Like Ronaldo, he needs to get adjusted to that
Ronaldo didn't adjust, he disappeared in games when that happened. The rest of the team adjusted and took advantage of the lack of markers on them.
Disappeared? He scored almost a goal a game. There's no way he "disappeared" every time he was doubled up on.
Nani had an off day today but he's been out injured for a while. No big deal.
Not early on he didn't. You're talking about his last season or two here aren't you.
There were plenty of times he was marked out of games. Don't know how you can say otherwise.
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