There's just no value in the market......................
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This was mentioned this morning on the radio, to Real Madrid.
Really does sound like bollocks, I certainly hope it is.
It's a Talksport story, Col. Thankfully, I can't find anything on Marca's site about it.
The prospectus says that the Kagawa and Powell fees have already been offset. So it's 40mil net left to spend.
I doubt that's a rigid figure. They're obliged to make some kind of estimate for the prospectus.
Well yeah, but they obviously have plans for a large transfer fee. As they have estimated £25 million net in future.
I'm bored too. With this and the RVP saga.
I used to look forward to the summer transfer window, but now I can't stand it. Boring, drawn-out sagas that come to nothing or are done at the last minute.
Seriously?
By my estimation Lucas will cost approx £30m & RVP £20m, meaning we are over by £10m, i guess the plan is then to sell Berba and possibly Macheda to balance the books.
Yes, the thoughts of getting new players in is exciting, and you'd be anxious to see who your club buys.
Now, it bores me.
I did too.
I used to love reading the Sunday papers years and years ago. I remember reading one headline "Man united to sign Batistuta this week" and I was literally on absolute cloud nine!
It would Be a different big name player every week and in my naivety I lapped it up.
What was that like?
Not quite as good as cloud 10 though, right?
I dunno. I can't remember ever being excited about transfer windows. I think I preferred football before they ever existed and you just picked up a paper one day to find out we'd signed someone. The off-season was always a bit dull, though, can't imagine looking forward to it. These days it's almost painful.
I dunno. I can't remember ever being excited about transfer windows. I think I preferred football before they ever existed and you just picked up a paper one day to find out we'd signed someone. The off-season was always a bit dull, though, can't imagine looking forward to it. These days it's almost painful.
Transfer windows are a load of shit, tbh. They don't achieve anything at all.
If we can get something for Bebe he'd be off like milk in the desert
Why do we even have transfer windows?
I'm starting to feel more and more this way myself mate.
Agents and their ridiculous demands are killing the transfer muppet inside me.
I think the logic was, originally, that it would stop players getting "unsettled" during the season by approaches from other clubs. Which is nonsense, because we all know that there's all sorts of negotiations that go on during the season regardless.
I guess it also means that the make-up of each squad is fixed between transfer windows, which is probably a good thing. If this was the intention, though, they should get rid of the January window IMO.
It was supposed to be designed so a team couldn't get a few months into the season, not do well and then just throw money at the problem.
Except for conducting transfers. On the whole, they're better at conducting transfers in than non-transfer windows.
Re: the 40m net spend figure, according to James Ducker. Who is usually fairly reliable I think?
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another £40m could still be spent as £15m downpayments on Kagawa and Powell are on course to be offset through sales, loan fees&compensation
James Ducker @DuckerTheTimes
another £40m could still be spent as £15m downpayments on Kagawa and Powell are on course to be offset through sales, loan fees&compensation
We have recouped around 10m from transfer and loan fees this window. (Park+James+Delaet+Norwood+Fabio). Throw in another 2-4m for Fryers.. and a 100k for Pogba.
Paid around 15m for Kagawa and Powell (12.xx+ 2-3m.. both supposedly have addons)
So there will be money.. Still dont see us overspending on players. We'll have a valuation. Wont go over that too much.
Paid around 15m for Kagawa and Powell (12.xx+ 2-3m.. both supposedly have addons)
So there will be money.. Still dont see us overspending on players. We'll have a valuation. Wont go over that too much.
It's from a comment a United official made at an IPO investor meeting, that we expect to spend around £40m net this summer.
Suggests we're looking around but I don't think it speaks to an eminent deal.
So the report about the alleged agreement between Inter and Sao Paulo was bullshit?
Apparently so.
Paul Pogba - 100k + 2k a week wages
Ji Sung Park - 3m + 45k a week wages
Michael Owen free + 40k a week wages
Ritchie De Laet + 1.2m + 5k a week wages
Matt James + 1m +2.5k a week wages
Oliver Norwood + .5m + 1k a week wages
Tomasz Kuszczak free + 35k a week wages
Dimitar Berbatov 5m + 90k a week wages
We're saving about 120k a week in wages, and 210k if Berb goes. thats just under 11 million pound in wages. As well as about 10 million pound in sales, 15 if Berbatov goes.
These are rough estimates, but with the 14m on Kagawa, and 5 million on Powell, we've spent very little.
Ji Sung Park - 3m + 45k a week wages
Michael Owen free + 40k a week wages
Ritchie De Laet + 1.2m + 5k a week wages
Matt James + 1m +2.5k a week wages
Oliver Norwood + .5m + 1k a week wages
Tomasz Kuszczak free + 35k a week wages
Dimitar Berbatov 5m + 90k a week wages
We're saving about 120k a week in wages, and 210k if Berb goes. thats just under 11 million pound in wages. As well as about 10 million pound in sales, 15 if Berbatov goes.
These are rough estimates, but with the 14m on Kagawa, and 5 million on Powell, we've spent very little.
Most sites claim we got £800.000 in compensation for Pogba...and certainly more than £100.000
Sao Paulo have dismissed speculation claiming Manchester City have joined rivals Manchester United in the race to sign Lucas Moura.
Sao Paulo sports director Adalberto Baptista has confirmed the Brazilian club recently turned down a 32million euros (£25million) offer for the attacking midfielder, currently representing Brazil at the Olympics, thought to have been tabled by United.
But the Sao Paulo chief has cooled rumours Premier League champions City could attempt to hijack the Red Devils' move for the 19-year-old.
He told Calciomercato.it: "Interest from Manchester City? We are not aware of it and we have not had contact with them."
Baptista also denied reports Inter Milan have made a 25million euros offer for the starlet, while adding that would not be enough to secure his signature, insisting it could take 70million euros to prise him away.
"An offer of 25million euros for Lucas from Inter Milan? We have not received written offers from Inter and that figure should not be enough, since we have already refused an official offer of 32million euros for our player," he said.
It is thought Sao Paulo are ready to offer Moura a new improved deal in a bid to keep him at the club and Baptista insists the youngster wants to stay.
He added to Band: "During the transfer window, there is a lot of speculation. Unfortunately until August 31, we'll have to deal with this.
"We know many European clubs want Lucas but we work with two facts. The first is that Sao Paulo don't think this is the moment to lose Lucas. We need him to win the titles our fans want.
"Secondly, Lucas himself does not think this is the moment to leave Brazil."
Asked if the club have set a price for the youngster, Baptista added: "We negotiate when the player effectively asks us to do so. Then we set a value below the buyout fee.
"Whenever a club comes to us (for Lucas), we ask them to pay the buyout fee that is 70million euros."
Meanwhile, Baptista dismissed reports Roma have made a bid for centre-back Rhodolfo.
He added: "They have not made any proposal for our player. The last official offer for him from Italy came from Juventus last year. Now there is nothing."
When did shitty get involved?.And it looks like he's made up his mind.Close thread.
Sao Paulo sports director Adalberto Baptista has confirmed the Brazilian club recently turned down a 32million euros (£25million) offer for the attacking midfielder, currently representing Brazil at the Olympics, thought to have been tabled by United.
But the Sao Paulo chief has cooled rumours Premier League champions City could attempt to hijack the Red Devils' move for the 19-year-old.
He told Calciomercato.it: "Interest from Manchester City? We are not aware of it and we have not had contact with them."
Baptista also denied reports Inter Milan have made a 25million euros offer for the starlet, while adding that would not be enough to secure his signature, insisting it could take 70million euros to prise him away.
"An offer of 25million euros for Lucas from Inter Milan? We have not received written offers from Inter and that figure should not be enough, since we have already refused an official offer of 32million euros for our player," he said.
It is thought Sao Paulo are ready to offer Moura a new improved deal in a bid to keep him at the club and Baptista insists the youngster wants to stay.
He added to Band: "During the transfer window, there is a lot of speculation. Unfortunately until August 31, we'll have to deal with this.
"We know many European clubs want Lucas but we work with two facts. The first is that Sao Paulo don't think this is the moment to lose Lucas. We need him to win the titles our fans want.
"Secondly, Lucas himself does not think this is the moment to leave Brazil."
Asked if the club have set a price for the youngster, Baptista added: "We negotiate when the player effectively asks us to do so. Then we set a value below the buyout fee.
"Whenever a club comes to us (for Lucas), we ask them to pay the buyout fee that is 70million euros."
Meanwhile, Baptista dismissed reports Roma have made a bid for centre-back Rhodolfo.
He added: "They have not made any proposal for our player. The last official offer for him from Italy came from Juventus last year. Now there is nothing."
When did shitty get involved?.And it looks like he's made up his mind.Close thread.
They sure talk alot over there!
The player himself has said he will make a decision on his future after the Olympics.
And didnt his agent say that Lucas wanted him to negotiate with us?
Exactly. They talk way too much over there. Contradicting themselves all the time. Tiresome stuff.
15mins of European tabloid/twitter fame up for grabs
Sounds like a tactic to me, trying to create interest. They're assuring that he'll now be linked with City, they're throwing out a huge transfer fee to create an aura of value around Lucas, that he might be worth anything close to 70m euros.
And since Lucas has said he won't make a decision until after the Olympics why not throw in that they know he wants to stay, they know he won't come out and say 'Oh no I'm not happy in Sao Paolo' even if he does want a move.
And they throw in that there hasn't been an 'official' offer, which hints that there has been an unofficial offer. Clever, though really I can't see any club falling for this stuff, probably as much for the fans and their image as anything.
And since Lucas has said he won't make a decision until after the Olympics why not throw in that they know he wants to stay, they know he won't come out and say 'Oh no I'm not happy in Sao Paolo' even if he does want a move.
And they throw in that there hasn't been an 'official' offer, which hints that there has been an unofficial offer. Clever, though really I can't see any club falling for this stuff, probably as much for the fans and their image as anything.
Baptista must be taking a holiday in Margate at the moment, as he is in dreamland if he thinks anyone is paying 70 million fecking Euros for Lucas.
I could be wrong, but I seem to recall people saying their fans wanted rid, especially if they can get upwards of 20m+ non?
Agree with the rest of your post tho, nice have assurances he won't go all twitter mad til his bench-warming Olympic session is over
Huh? He said that they had already turned down an official bid of 32m
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