Lucas da Silva | Signed for PSG

Status
Not open for further replies.
1. Media in Brazil saying he wants to go to United.

2. The player himself saying he will sort out his future AFTER the Olympics.

3. Media in Italy saying he is definitely going to Inter for less than United have bid.

One of those does not match the other two.
 
Aporkalypse said:
1. Media in Brazil saying he wants to go to United.

2. The player himself saying he will sort out his future AFTER the Olympics.

3. Media in Italy saying he is definitely going to Inter for less than United have bid.

One of those does not match the other two.
Click to expand...

4. Lucas' parents want him to play for United.
 
If only we'd signed Gul Ibl when we had the chance...
 
So seemingly as far as the VP is aware, they still haven't reached an agreement with United and he isn't aware of a deal being agreed with Inter. Unless a deal has been done over his head it looks like this has been yet another case of a number of caf members taking false rumours as gospel.

http://www.lancenet.com.br/sao-paulo/Inter-Milao-Brasil-contratar-Lucas_0_748125406.html

Lent and Bruno Gabriel Saraceni
Posted on 02/08/2012 at 19:43
São Paulo (SP)
After offering 25 million euros ($ 62 million) by Lucas, Inter Milan (ITA) may reach 30 million euros ($ 74.8 million) to try to bring the attacking midfielder. Marco Branca, technical director of the Italians, is back in Brazil.
Manchester United (ENG) had made ​​the best offer, rejected by the Tricolor. After an offer of $ 82 million, rose to $ 94 million, which was also denied. New investee, it would come to $ 99 million, can happen at any moment, what would the Tricolor to sell the athlete.
In Italy, the site Sport Mediaset says that the Italians have reached an agreement to take Luke for 30 million euros. Gypsum board and the Tri Lucas deny.
- I do not know this information. I was with Juvenal yesterday (Wednesday) and today (Thursday). Just sit down to negotiate with Manchester, but the values ​​we were not satisfied - John Paul said of Jesus Lopes, vice president of football.
Luke's family is in London (ING), which accompanies the São Paulo fan in the Olympics. It is not ruled out a visit to Manchester, because Brazil, which has played at Old Traford, you can return to the stage of United in the semifinals. The businessman Wagner Ribeiro is also in the country.
When the last reported offer from Manchester, the story of LANCENET! reported that Inter would return to Brazil to make a new proposal. However, they were without much hope after negative values ​​Sampa English.
Since last Wednesday, Lucas won over 10% of economic rights. Ate'o end of July, was 20% and 80% of São Paulo. Now, it is divided by 30% and 70%. Earlier this week, the director of football Adalberto Bautista said that the contract can reshape the boy (19 years). He currently earns $ 130,000 a month and has ties to the end of 2015.
Click to expand...
 
Something badly amiss or underhand about this proposed transfer:

Earlier on Thursday, Inter president Massimo Moratti hinted that negotiations had reached an impasse as the Nerazzurri were unwilling to meet Sao Paulo's reported €40 million (£31.4m) valuation of the player.

However, fresh reports suggest the two clubs have concurred on a €27m (£21.2m) deal which could rise to as much as €32m (£25.1m) depending upon the midfielder's performances for the Italian club
Click to expand...
 
Could it be that the Inter offer is only for the Sao Paulo stake whereas our offer was for the full 100%?
 
If the deal is off then i wont be surprised if we get no one or someone like dembele. I cant believe that a serie a club has outbidded us (if true). Their financial situation is in shambles and they are friggin skint. Maybe we are in a worse situation then we think.
 
devilish said:
If the deal is off then i wont be surprised if we get no one or someone like dembele. I cant believe that a serie a club has outbidded us (if true). Their financial situation is in shambles and they are friggin skint. Maybe we are in a worse situation then we think.
Click to expand...

:rolleyes:
 
Good player, but far too many vested parties for smooth negotiations. If we do end up paying the reported £30 mil plus sums, this will probably be the biggest transfer gamble undertaken by Fergie.

The lad reminds me of Wayne Routledge in his Palace days
 
This is how it works:

You promise the agent lots of money.
The rest all takes care of itself.
 
Have we really been in for him?? Seems a bit of tosh. But there's probably a quote from Fergs or something proving me wrong.
 
ghaliboy said:
Have we really been in for him?? Seems a bit of tosh. But there's probably a quote from Fergs or something proving me wrong.
Click to expand...

Yes confirmed by various board members and the coach at Sao Paulo and Fegerguson himself has even said we're interested in him.
 
ESPN reporting it too.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...lose-in-on-lucas-moura-from-sao-paulo?cc=5901

Inter Milan have edged closer to signing Brazil starlet Lucas Moura, with reports in Italy claiming the Serie A outfit have agreed a transfer fee with his current club Sao Paulo.

Lucas has also been linked with Manchester United and Real Madrid over the summer. But Sky Sport Italia reported late on Thursday evening that Inter had trumped their powerful rivals by agreeing to a €27 million transfer fee, which could rise to €32 million depending on appearances.

All clubs had previously balked at Sao Paulo's €40 million valuation of Lucas, with United understood to have failed with bids before Inter increased their pursuit of the 19-year-old.

Earlier on Thursday, Inter president Massimo Moratti confirmed director Marco Branca had been in "ongoing" negotiations with Sao Paulo officials over the transfer fee.

"As you know we are strongly interested in the guy," Moratti told Sky Sport Italia. "But our interest does not compel us to accept every kind of condition imposed."

Lucas and his Brazil team-mates, meanwhile, are preparing to take on Honduras in the quarter-finals of the London Olympics at St. James' Park this Saturday.
Click to expand...

Are the Chinese investment team there helping Inter?
 
ESPN are just going off that skysport italia claim. What I wouldn't understand is, if we did offer the 38 million euros, ontop of Lucas wanting to only move to United and then for Inter to sign him for much lower than what we offered.
 
Orton said:
ESPN are just going off that skysport italia claim. What I wouldn't understand is, if we did offer the 38 million euros, ontop of Lucas wanting to only move to United and then for Inter to sign him for much lower than what we offered.
Click to expand...

All we know is we made a bid, and SP said it was close but no cigar. The figures quoted in the press might be pure invention.
 
This only makes sense if Sao Paolo WANT to sell to Inter, rather than selling to anybody else.

Why would they accept Inters bid for less money, and then only "think" about man utd / madrids offer?
 
Heffo said:
So seemingly as far as the VP is aware, they still haven't reached an agreement with United and he isn't aware of a deal being agreed with Inter. Unless a deal has been done over his head it looks like this has been yet another case of a number of caf members taking false rumours as gospel.

http://www.lancenet.com.br/sao-paulo/Inter-Milao-Brasil-contratar-Lucas_0_748125406.html
Click to expand...

The only thing wrong with this nonsense is that the exchange rates are up the creek.

The $94M talked about is getting on for £60M.
 
I won't believe anything until it's officially announced, or Fergie kidnaps somebody at the airport.
 
Do people actually want us to sign this guy for say £30 million pounds?

We could get a quite good midfielder or left back for that sort of money. Even both.
 
marjen said:
Do people actually want us to sign this guy for say £30 million pounds?

We could get a quite good midfielder or left back for that sort of money. Even both.
Click to expand...

Yes but we all know it wont work like that. If we miss out on lucas we probably wont sign anyone else this summer.
 
Godfather said:
Really? Who?
Click to expand...

Well, I'm not employed as a scout or a manager of Manchester United, but I'd wager that you could conceivably get a player who would do a fine job in our midfield for £30 million pounds. That would be almost equal to our record signing ffs!

For example, I'd say £30 million would be more than adequate to sign Ever Banega from Valencia, whom I personally think would be just about a perfect fit for us. Even someone like Moussa Dembele might do a good job and provide much needed cover, and he'd cost no more than £15 million at the most.
 
Orton said:
Yes but we all know it wont work like that. If we miss out on lucas we probably wont sign anyone else this summer.
Click to expand...

I just don't see the logic in this signing. When we signed Ronaldo, we didn't have three of the leagues 6-7 best wingers in the squad, nor a forward line as menacing as good and strong as the one we've got now.
 
Godfather said:
Really? Who?
Click to expand...

For £30m we could buy pretty much any left back and most midfielders in the world. For example I believe someone like Moutinho wouldn't cost more than £25m.
 
marjen said:
Do people actually want us to sign this guy for say £30 million pounds?

We could get a quite good midfielder or left back for that sort of money. Even both.
Click to expand...

What happens if in 2-3 years he's the best player in the world and worth £100 million eh?

Sometimes you just have to take a calculated risk. If this kid is as good as Fergie obviously thinks he is and ultimately could be, then yes i would want us to sign him for that money.
 
Adam-Utd said:
This only makes sense if Sao Paolo WANT to sell to Inter, rather than selling to anybody else.

Why would they accept Inters bid for less money, and then only "think" about man utd / madrids offer?
Click to expand...

Because United more than likely haven't offered £30m, or anything close to it.

From the noises being made, we've come in with some piffling offer (if we've even made one officially), and Sao Paulo have basically told us to be serious or feck off...so we've fecked off.
 
noodlehair said:
Because United more than likely haven't offered £30m, or anything close to it.

From the noises being made, we've come in with some piffling offer (if we've even made one officially), and Sao Paulo have basically told us to be serious or feck off...so we've fecked off.
Click to expand...

Wouldn't surprise me. I can't see Lucas' club not accepting a bigger offer. That would be daft.
 
Garethw said:
What happens if in 2-3 years he's the best player in the world and worth £100 million eh?

Sometimes you just have to take a calculated risk. If this kid is as good as Fergie obviously thinks he is and ultimately could be, then yes i would want us to sign him for that money.
Click to expand...

I've only watched him a couple of times admittedly, but I have to say there's nothing I've seen there that strikes me as something out of the ordinary, and certainly not spunking £30 million of a presumably relatively tight transfer budget on.
 
Agree. If the net spend being projected is 40mil and we've already bought Kagawa for 17mil and Powell for 4mil, i'd be surprised if we paid anywhere near 30mil for Lucas.
 
marjen said:
I just don't see the logic in this signing. When we signed Ronaldo, we didn't have three of the leagues 6-7 best wingers in the squad, nor a forward line as menacing as good and strong as the one we've got now.
Click to expand...

Totally agree about our wingers, but if you take Rooney out of the equation our front line isn't nearly as menacing as you make out.

When clubs stand still in football they ultimately take a step back.
 
Sarni said:
For £30m we could buy pretty much any left back and most midfielders in the world. For example I believe someone like Moutinho wouldn't cost more than £25m.
Click to expand...

A player that would significantly improve our midfield would cost about as much if not more.
Also if there's one available I'm sure Fergie would go for one, irrespective of us going for Lucas or not. I think Fergie just hasnt found the right player so far.
 
I suspect we don't desperately want him...nor should we could considering we're well stocked in that department.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.