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I've never seen him play. Anyway, you have to laugh at this place...one good performance and everyone's decided he's the next Meredith, only to have a quick u turn as a consequence of some mediocre ones.
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Kevin really doesn't want Lucas to join us. I don't get why he keeps continuing to post in this thread. 27 posts, most of them negative.
I didn't want us to sign him, but rather him than van Persie.
^ to news its over
Think back to many of our transfer sagas of the past years: whenever shit like this comes out it almost made the caf speculate on smokescreens/negotiation tactics, whereas in the end it always meant the player either staying put or moving to somewhere else. The exception was the Tevez saga.
Don't read too much into this and take it at face value: the deal's off.
Lucas has reiterated his desire to stay at Sao Paolo. It's over guys
It got annoying a long time ago. I don't get why he keeps posting in a thread about someone he clearly hates. He has made his stance clear on this.
That devil smilie is annoying as feck
Not true, I've not said a dicky bird about RVP.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/s...hester-united-close-in-on-lucas-moura?cc=5901
Soccernet reporting this now.. only a good sign.
It makes no sense for Kevin to be happy if we fail to get Lucas. Fergie thinks we need that type of player, he's not going to change his mind, so even if we don't get Lucas we'll move on to a similar player (albeit one who is second choice). You'd think fans would trust Fergies judgement by now.
They don't even trust him not to run the club into the ground for an extra few quid ffs.
Kevin is a bit of an idiot to be fair. Well, him or Kelvin, I always confuse them, but I'm happy enough to go out on a limb here.
So no medical then? I'm starting to feel like a Jewish kid again.
He's a quality dribbler and has insane potential. People basing his future ability from the Olympics alone are being silly, he's looked as good if not a better talent as Neymar over the past year. If we get him, we are getting a star. Very similar to Nani's ball control and retention, and explosive acceleration with or without the ball. It would be very exciting, sometimes talents like these don't come around too often, it's worth the purchase just to see if he can fulfill that potential.
Nothing happened today.
Another rumour bites the dust. There was no chance of it happening until the Olympics are over.
Another rumour bites the dust. There was no chance of it happening until the Olympics are over.
Agreed. To back your point remember we went for Sanchez last summer,after missing out on Nasri. Then again for Hazard this summer, even after signing Kagawa. Lucas is the latest in that line of players, and all it suggests to me that SAF is after different types of players for a less predictable style of play.
So the serious intention is clearly there to buy a versatile wide forward, comfortable in possession, who can cut inside offering a goal threat and creativity from central areas. Bit more Barca like in our thinking in my view.
Easily done, usually both seem to prefer being dark clouds rather than rays of sunshine!Indeed. I would hate the thought of us signing one of the best young players in world football.
It's good that there are denial all round from every party concerned. The De Gea deal was exactly the same until United announced the deal and we saw the picture of him with the white sheets at Bridgewater
Sky Sports understands Manchester United are poised to win the race for Brazilian winger Lucas Moura.
United have been chasing the Sao Paulo winger all summer and have already seen one bid rejected for the 19-year-old.
The likes of Inter Milan, Paris Saint Germain and Real Madridhave all been credited with an interest in Moura, but it appears United are in pole position to land the highly-rated starlet.
A fee is believed to have been agreed between United and Sao Paulo and the Old Trafford outfit have been given the green light to hold talks with the player.
Sir Alex Ferguson remained behind from United's pre-season trip to Norway for Sunday's friendly with Valerenga with the reason for his absence thought to be to push through a deal for Moura.
Should United clinch the signing it would be a massive boost for Ferguson as the wide-man is regarded as one of the brightest young talents to emerge from Brazil in recent years.
Moura is currently on Olympics duty with Brazil and is expected to feature for Brazil in their semi-final against South Korea at Old Trafford on Tuesday.
United have been chasing the Sao Paulo winger all summer and have already seen one bid rejected for the 19-year-old.
The likes of Inter Milan, Paris Saint Germain and Real Madridhave all been credited with an interest in Moura, but it appears United are in pole position to land the highly-rated starlet.
A fee is believed to have been agreed between United and Sao Paulo and the Old Trafford outfit have been given the green light to hold talks with the player.
Sir Alex Ferguson remained behind from United's pre-season trip to Norway for Sunday's friendly with Valerenga with the reason for his absence thought to be to push through a deal for Moura.
Should United clinch the signing it would be a massive boost for Ferguson as the wide-man is regarded as one of the brightest young talents to emerge from Brazil in recent years.
Moura is currently on Olympics duty with Brazil and is expected to feature for Brazil in their semi-final against South Korea at Old Trafford on Tuesday.
Yes, ESPN seems to 'understand' the same thing.
I love it when words are redefined.
I love it when words are redefined.
That sounds very positive. I've seen his incredible pace. If he has Nani's technical ability then that could be a frightening combination.
That logic is flawed. I was weary of the Berbatov signing when it was made and I think it didn't work out the way we wanted. In the end, every manager makes mistakes. And you don't necessarily move on to an absolutely identical player in terms of quality or style if you don't get your man. So people are entitled to their opinions on signings.
I trust Fergie's judgement. But I also know that every manager gets it wrong now and then. Even Fergie.
You'd think we would wait until the Olympics are over before concluding the deal. Can't imagine the Brazil football federation being too pleased with all this going on before a semi final.
Has a right foot like a cannon too by all accounts. One thing is for sure iFergie only spends £30m on undeniable talent, if he is willing to spend that on a kid, it can only be because his talent is special.
Not counting my chickens yet of course, but surely everyone has to be excited by this transfer should it come off.
First of all, I've never said that people aren't entitled to their opinion. I questioned the logic behind an opinion, which is a very different thing.
We've been after Alexis Sanchez, Eden Hazard and now Lucas- who are all very similar to each other. We are clearly after a specific type of player so for me it makes sense to get the highest quality player of that ilk that we can get. Obviously Fergie makes mistakes, no-one said he was infallible, but he makes them much, much less than most. If he thinks we need Lucas then that's enough for me.
Something about his style of play reminds me of Walcott.
spot on mate. Almost every player he has looked at for that role, would have cost a similar amount. So Fergie seems to be concentrating on the level of talent these guys have, and it seems you are not getting it for less than £30m unless their contracts are nearing their end.
I like the intent SAF is showing to get what he wants. Whether we have concerns about the money or whatever, he had clearly identified what he wants and he is not giving up without a fight. This gives me really positive vibes about Fergie's determination to right the wrongs of last season and put us in a strong position to do far better this season, especially in Europe.
Now that it looks like we might actually get him, can someone describe his position/play style for me? I could probably read all 100 pages of this thread to find out, but no.
He's a flying winger, with bags of pace and skill, with an eye for a good pass, he works hard and is pretty strong for his stature, he plays in any of the 4 positions up front.
Walcott is just quick.
He's a winger? I mean... did we really need a winger?
Well, obviously, Walcott with end product and a footballing brain.
Oh Lolz. Watched him much then? What performance stood out to you in particular? Do you watch much Brazilian football on ESPN?
Edit: I must also point out that it is not July.
Maybe Ferguson sees him playing somewhere other than the wing
He also posseses a good long range shot (judging from YouTube). I can kind of see the comparison to Nani more than Walcott in that, like a young nani he has all the speed and skills but just lacks the composure or decision making ability. Not really surprising considering his age but he still looks excellent. I would guess that he would initially be the player to excite and frustrate in equal measure
He can also play as an attacking midfielder.
If we do get him - would it be possible that he would play a number 10 role - with Kagawa playing further back in a midfield two?
Whats wrong with having an exciting young winger he has bags of potential and is quick as lightning ?
Or would we go for the 3m Obertans', 7m Bebe's... I mean there has got to be deals some times but when we pulled 12m for Ronaldo, or 30m for Rooney I don't see anyone complaining ?
If SAF see's something in Lucas and he see's it is worth the risk, then I trust in his judgement. He has hardly let us down... He's cheaper than Andy Carrol FFS !
Or would we go for the 3m Obertans', 7m Bebe's... I mean there has got to be deals some times but when we pulled 12m for Ronaldo, or 30m for Rooney I don't see anyone complaining ?
If SAF see's something in Lucas and he see's it is worth the risk, then I trust in his judgement. He has hardly let us down... He's cheaper than Andy Carrol FFS !
Where's Fergie today? Surely someone must have spotted him somewhere
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