Louis van Gaal: "I am - or maybe was - a very successful manager."

When was the right time?
I don't know. I haven't followed his career that closely but he's obviously a managerial great.

But a lot of people could have predicted that trusting Rooney and co. so much would come back to bite him.
 
Who were the other ones in line ? LVG at that time was probably the best choice, considering that the other topclass manager were not available.
To be fair, the most successful ones aren't always the best choice, just like it isn't obvious that Mourinho is the best choice now after Pep. But yeah, LVG did tick all the boxes. It hasn't worked out well though so maybe it wasn't actually the best choice?
 
None, he completely pulled that out of his ass and then used it as an example of LVG's legacy.

Yes there isnt a source but it doesnt take a brain to understand that certain managers like to manage certain clubs. Klopp wouldn't go to city; even nottingham forest had more chance of getting klopp than city, chelsea or arsenal. He moved to liverpool because they are a fallen giant much like the resemblance to every LVG move he has ever made.

If he doesn't retire; it's almost guaranteed in my eyes to be his next move but that depends on ac milan; i guess.

Sniff my arsehole
 
Don't really get the sympathy thing, he's had free reign to bring in, and sell, whoever he wants. Ripping up an entire squad in the process. He's also been given a blank cheque to spend as much as he wants to bring in these new players. And all he's managed to succeed in doing is creating a complete mess of a squad, that has no world class players, or any truly quality attacking players, expect a raw 19 year old. Despite it being the 3rd most expensive squad in Europe. He's also produced some of the dullest football I've ever seen of any team in the PL.

And tbh, he doesn't even seem that nice a bloke either. Just a very stubborn, very egotistical man, who tends to fall out with everyone around him.
Yeah we should only have hate. It's the way to be.
 
I don't know. I haven't followed his career that closely but he's obviously a managerial great.

But a lot of people could have predicted that trusting Rooney and co. so much would come back to bite him.

No one wanted him to replace Fergie. We got desperate and scraped the barrel after sacking Moyes. In hindsight, Mourinho should've been given the job instead of Moyes.
 
No one wanted him to replace Fergie. We got desperate and scraped the barrel after sacking Moyes. In hindsight, Mourinho should've been given the job instead of Moyes.

Hindsight? Funny that...
 
I hope the board act decisively and don't let the current situation carry on any longer. There is still mutual respect between the fans and him, let's recognise he took us as far as he could after the Moyes' reign of terror and part ways amicably. Much more of what we have seen recently and his head will be on a pike come Christmas. Last hurrah vs. Stoke then bring in Mourinho for Chelsea. It'd probably rev the renties up more than our own but it would be an unreal game.
Agreed. Now is the best time for him to go, the fans can still appreciate the job he has done and things doesn't haveto get ugly.
 
He will go manage AC milan & im sure we will see some benefit of his time here as we did at other clubs.

Leaving Ajax, Barcelona, Bayern, United & AC milan with some quality advice will put him down as one of the best managers ever.
He'll what?

After us he's retiring. No argument.
 
No one wanted him to replace Fergie. We got desperate and scraped the barrel after sacking Moyes. In hindsight, Mourinho should've been given the job instead of Moyes.
The club wanted him to replace Fergie in 2002 or whatever it was.

Btw, the club doesn't have hindsight to rely on. LVG was the most proven available manager when we were replacing Moyes. His achievements in the game are brilliant. He has a track record of working with youth.
 
He'll what?

After us he's retiring. No argument.
He's already said this is his last job. He will retire. The question is how soon.

A bit sad to see an accomplished career like his end with a sacking.
 
The club wanted him to replace Fergie in 2002 or whatever it was.

Btw, the club doesn't have hindsight to rely on. LVG was the most proven available manager when we were replacing Moyes. His achievements in the game are brilliant. He has a track record of working with youth.


No they wanted SGE.
 
No one wanted him to replace Fergie. We got desperate and scraped the barrel after sacking Moyes. In hindsight, Mourinho should've been given the job instead of Moyes.
It's obvious to say but I think hiring Moyes deflated the entire club. Most of our players didn't want to play for him and their performances instantly dropped, most of the fans didn't believe in him which is why Sir Alex was asking them to stand by him before he'd even taken over.

Someone with a larger than life personality who the players could get excited about playing for was needed. It has set us back about 5 years.
 
He's already said this is his last job. He will retire. The question is how soon.

A bit sad to see an accomplished career like his end with a sacking.

That's why his best bet is making it to the summer, and a mutual ending.
It doesn't look like he will make it that far though, as we're not the sharpest with our decisions. I expect we'll go on for another month or so first.
 
It's obvious to say but I think hiring Moyes deflated the entire club. Most of our players didn't want to play for him and their performances instantly dropped, most of the fans didn't believe in him which is why Sir Alex was asking them to stand by him before he'd even taken over.

Someone with a larger than life personality who the players could get excited about playing for was needed. It has set us back about 5 years.

Fergie also said that his challenge wouldn't be winning 1 title, it'd be winning 3 in a row!

How about 3 games in a row!
 
He's already said this is his last job. He will retire. The question is how soon.

A bit sad to see an accomplished career like his end with a sacking.

Not half as sad as losing 2-1 at home to Norwich, having picked up 2 points from the last 12.

Sympathy for the devil, I have no sympathy for that egotistical fool.
 
No they wanted SGE.
We were in contact with LvG in 2002 to replace SAF.

The Dutchman also had a stint with the Netherlands' national side and it was around that time that Van Gaal admits that United's former chief executive Peter Kenyon contacted him about succeeding Sir Alex.

"It was before the World Cup of 2002," the 58-year-old said, as quoted by skysports.com.

"I was in contact with Manchester United through Peter Kenyon.

"It was said to me that Alex Ferguson was going to retire.

"The moment he'd go, I'd succeed him. But in the end Ferguson didn't want to quit."

He's been one of the top managers of his generation so it's hardly a surprise. People want "proven". We did proven.
 
Fergie also said that his challenge wouldn't be winning 1 title, it'd be winning 3 in a row!

How about 3 games in a row!
Fergie was truly one of a kind. He'd win a trophy and before the celebrations even started, he'd already have shifted his focus to the next one.
 
Not half as sad as losing 2-1 at home to Norwich, having picked up 2 points from the last 12.
Thanks for being irrelevant.

Sympathy for the devil, I have no sympathy for that egotistical fool.
Not sure why he gets up people's tits here so much. Its like he shagged half your mums. You'd lose the plot with Mourinho in charge.
 
Sounds like a man confident in taking us to the league title ...

:-/
 
I feel sorry for him. He should resign and leave with some dignity. I would hate for him to be sacked in his last job as manager.

I feel bad for him as well. It looked like it may work for a while but at this point he just needs to go. I wish him the best of luck.
 
Fergie was truly one of a kind. He'd win a trophy and before the celebrations even started, he'd already have shifted his focus to the next one.

He also had rare longevity. So easier to plan for the future when you know the job is yours for as long as you want it.

We still need to be shifting focus forward all the time, but we can't expect the manager to be the one to do that as they're likely to be here short term, not more than a few years.
 
I feel sorry for him. He should resign and leave with some dignity. I would hate for him to be sacked in his last job as manager.
He's a complete dick though, and as arrogant as someone can be. So, feck him.

I hope he resigns too just because it would save money to United.
 
Maybe Eriksson is talking bollocks? SAF doesn't seem entirely sure it was him going by that quote.

Either way, LVG was obviously being seriously considered. Not surprising given his achievements. You don't have to like LVG to acknowledge he has a standing in the game.

Okayyyyy.

Ferguson:


"Sven-Goran Eriksson was to be the new United manager, I believe."
 
Okayyyyy.

Ferguson:


"Sven-Goran Eriksson was to be the new United manager, I believe."

"The head-hunters were due to meet a candidate to succeed me the following week," wrote Ferguson.

"Sven-Goran Eriksson was to be the new United manager, I believe. That was my interpretation, anyway,"

Like I said, he doesn't seem sure.

And it doesn't contradict what I said that LVG was seriously considered. Neither of the two are most likely lying. They were possibly both considered seriously with SGE maybe being chosen.

Either way, I'm not really sure you have a point. He's been one of the top managers of his generation. Everyone wanted someone like that, and who had a big personality. LVG was that man.
 
No one wanted him to replace Fergie. We got desperate and scraped the barrel after sacking Moyes. In hindsight, Mourinho should've been given the job instead of Moyes.
:lol:

It was the most obvious thing ever. Even the Caf voted 50+% for him.
 
Not sure why some of you are so butt-hurt by LVG. Was the same with Moyes. Bunch of people almost with an almost personal hate for our manager. Things didn't work. Fine, let's change it up.
 
He also had rare longevity. So easier to plan for the future when you know the job is yours for as long as you want it.

We still need to be shifting focus forward all the time, but we can't expect the manager to be the one to do that as they're likely to be here short term, not more than a few years.
He earned that longevity because of his success. His success didn't follow from having longevity.
 
To what I was saying, yes. Reply to the post quoted, please.

You pointed out something you equated to sadness. I pointed out something that I equated to sadness that is completely relevant to both the thread and your original post.
 
Like I said, he doesn't seem sure.

And it doesn't contradict what I said that LVG was seriously considered. Neither of the two are most likely lying. They were possibly both considered seriously with SGE maybe being chosen.

Either way, I'm not really sure you have a point. He's been one of the top managers of his generation. Everyone wanted someone like that, and who had a big personality. LVG was that man.


I don't recall any LVG to United rumours at the time. SGE to United was the most open secret in town.

Whether he was good or not, replacing Moyes with him was a mistake (proven now). The man was close to retirement.
 
The thing is he was so proud of being Manchester United manager so he will be gutted. But it just hasn't worked out. I can't help it, I'm a big old softie, so feel bad about the whole thing:(

I feel terrible for him and I had the highest hopes for him as well. I think I'll always have a soft spot for LVG but his time at the club has unfortunately come to an end :(
 
Seems a top bloke off the pitch like Moyes.

But like Moyes he's let his ego cloud his judgement and now realises the end game is here. Even if he gets the rest of the season he'll likely not get the third year. Being 3/4/5 points off top, while ahead of the chasing pack for top 4 would be excusable. We've now lost our grip on 4th.