i don't remember this, and i was glued to the telly that day, it was rumored he had a passed on a list, but i never remember van gaal, giggs or woodward saying anything like this.
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Louis Van Gaal - First press conference 17/07/14 14:45 BST
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No. He said our training was similar to that of Bilbao's as they were always using the ball and keeping it but under Moyes it seemed like the players have never seen one.
Didn't the players themselves say last summer its a lot more conditioning and less work with the ball?
To LvG it's his personal challenge as well. He's very adamant he will want his philosophy to be successful at the English premiere league. I do believe if United are not paying him as much as he wanted he would still be joining us.
That's my impression of him since he's announced as our manager and specifically watching him today at the press conference. (Granted I also read stories about his pervious coaching style and at brazil).
And may I add he's very charismatic and way above josé. I love this boss already
Are you Dutch and did you watch the same RTL Late night episode which featured LVG and Cesar Milano the dog whisperer?
Because after dinner I will watch it back, would swear he said that about a list, now I'm starting to doubt myself. But if you watched the same show as I did and he didn't say it, it would save me some time watching back, if you still get what I'm saying.
I wouldn't read too much into the whole 3-4 week thing.
We have sold buttner, and bebe is close to being sold. We have gotten Shaw and Herrera, we would not be doing this if LVG wanted to give everyone a fair chance.
I am sure he already has decided on who to sell and who to buy mostly. We are probably working on some transfers already. This whole 3-4 week thing could be for the player who he thinks he can improve and fit in his philosophy, but have not played well so far. Those may be the ones who he wants to have a look at himself before making a decision whether to keep them or sell them.
We have sold buttner, and bebe is close to being sold. We have gotten Shaw and Herrera, we would not be doing this if LVG wanted to give everyone a fair chance.
I am sure he already has decided on who to sell and who to buy mostly. We are probably working on some transfers already. This whole 3-4 week thing could be for the player who he thinks he can improve and fit in his philosophy, but have not played well so far. Those may be the ones who he wants to have a look at himself before making a decision whether to keep them or sell them.
No it doesn't, nor does it surprise me that Herrera and Shaw were from targets presented from our existing scouting list (which we know pre-dates Moyes since he was pointed towards Herrera last summer).
Van Gaal isn't a signings manager, as such. Yes, first time around at Barcelona he signed a lot of Dutchmen but that was probably because a) those Dutchmen had got to two European Cup finals on the trot, winning the first b) it was his first job outside of Ajax and he wanted familiar faces around. If you look at what he did at AZ, at Bayern, even at Barca second time around a lot of his success came from developing players. Also, Van Gaal has tended to favour youngsters who he can indoctrinate into his philosophy throughout the last decade. When you sign a big name superstar who is used to doing things a certain way it can be harder to get them to wholesale buy into the Van Gaal philosophy. I'm sure Van Gaal is principally looking to see who in the squad can play his way.
Yeah they were running in rivers and up hills as Moyes didn't think they were as fit as Jagielka and co. at Everton.
They should be capable of hard work during training and use a football though.
A lot of Everton players said Moyes' pre-season training is intense very little with the ball. But other than rumors of Giggs being angry over constant defensive training I don't think any of our players said what they did in training.
Solid press conference. But the bit about the commercial vs footballing side of the club was a bit odd I thought. And I do wonder if we as a football club are excessively slanted towards that side of football as compared to the likes of bayern and barca. It's just a though that crossed my mind after he said that. He looked as if he's shocked by the co medical bang wagon that we carry with us. Hopefully that's not a hinderance to high quality coaching.
I'd get them an InterRail-ticket and let them backpack to the moon if the next nonsense the suits come up with means another 75m quid every year. It's the reason we can survive a year in the life of David Moyes.
From the press conference it seemed like he had very little to do with the Herrera and Shaw signings. They only called him to approve the purchases out of respect for him being the new manager. Hopefully we would see which players he'll target before the window shuts.
He had a great presser and he didn't even looked bit tired after biggest tournament in the world but still I'm just bit disappointed in guys like Giggsy or Scholes that didn't criticize enough quality of remaining players to trigger experience of Van Gaal in finding better replacements already.
Hopefully Van Gaal's staff in incoming days will report to him that some of the current footballers won't be enough against teams like City or Chelsea.
Hopefully Van Gaal's staff in incoming days will report to him that some of the current footballers won't be enough against teams like City or Chelsea.
This is all I wanted from the post Moyes era, just someone who actually has a clue about how they want their teams to play and that we could see that happening gradually on the pitch.
One thing is for sure, win or lose, we are going to have some very entertaining post match press conferences this season. Van is very enigmatic and unpredicatable....wonderful stuff...
Pointed it out earlier in the thread too. I certainly hope his assessment doesn't involve the midfield(that needs to be invested in right now) or we could be looking at starting the season with Herrara, which no matter how much people try to spin LVG into a miracle worker and not a "signings manager"(good luck with that), is a very stupid position to be in.
Towards the end of the Moyes era it was so depressing to watch our players playing like they hadn't even met before the match. No organisation, no apparent plan for how we were going to play. It was like watching football down the park. Danny Higgingbotham was explicit on MUTV on the day Moyes left that the squad had no idea what Moyes wanted from them, they were going out onto the field without a plan.
Am pleased with the boss. There is something in him that I can see who can fit into our culture and ambition.
Why is starting the season with Herrera a bad thing?
Geographically speaking, the who of Ireland is part of the British Isles.
Its a bit cliche now people like you keep reminding us he needs to prove himself elsewhere. He doesn't.
Do you know if there is an English translation of what was said in that video?
I remember watching the pictures.
I just watched it again and I think he said he'd already spoken to the board about players who he wants in and out. He doesn't care about how much they cost, it's not his job.
My Dutch isn't the best
With Carrick now out for 10 weeks, United's most competent midfielder by far, is a player starting the season adapting to a new league. How's that ideal, even if the early fixtures are relatively easy?
I just watched it again and I think he said he'd already spoken to the board about players who he wants in and out. He doesn't care about how much they cost, it's not his job.
My Dutch isn't the best
Yes, thank you, just watched it myself and at 04.00 he says literally that he's already spoken about what players he wants to come, and what players should go. Also said that he is not a director of football, he says who he wants and the club has to negotiate those deals.
So cheeky Louis was 'lying' at the presser today, not really, but he stated before the world cup that he talked to United about what player to buy and his ideas about transfers already.
That's also where the Vermaelen rumours came from I reckon.
Wut? The manager wants whats best for the club, that means what happens on the pitch, why fly players around the world mid season like a travelling circus when they could get a rest? We'd be giving up our advantage that we have over the teams that are in Europe. I don't feel we should sacrifice our season just to line the Glazer's pockets even more.
I just watched it again and I think he said he'd already spoken to the board about players who he wants in and out. He doesn't care about how much they cost, it's not his job.
My Dutch isn't the best
He is not going to discuss transfers here. It make sense with how we have kept everything under wraps with regards to transfers so far.
We are probably working on transfer already. At the same time, there are probably a few player in the squad that he wants to have a look at himself before making a decision on whether to sell them or keep them.
Good thing that he is going to observe the players before he makes some moves, bad thing is, we'll probably be scraping the bottom of the barrel by then as far as getting some quality targets in.
Thought he came across well and I'm sure his vocabulary and ability to better express himself will improve during his time here.
His remarks with the last question regarding Rooney was very telling and seemed to confirm what a lot of us had predicted regarding Rooney's position in the club under LVG.
His remarks with the last question regarding Rooney was very telling and seemed to confirm what a lot of us had predicted regarding Rooney's position in the club under LVG.
Whenever I see a press conference I always am reminded of something George Carlin onces said "I don't hate people. I just have a really low tolerance level for stupid bullshit."
Is bad when Moyes says he needs to assess the squad, is good when LVG says it.
Its never easy at Man Utd, may as well throw him in at the deep end.
The difference is Van Gaal actually has a plan and a philosophy every one recognises. For example, if Guardiola did the same thing every one would get it cos not every player can play that kind of passing/pressing game. Plus, there may be youngsters Van Gaal thinks he can mould into doing it like he did with Schweinsteiger etc.
With Moyes, what was the plan? Get to the byline. How much time do you need to assess if someone can run down the wing and punt it in?
Exactly, and if we want to sell, someone has to be interested. Same for buying, he can identify someone, but would they sell that player to us?
Going for a CB in any case seems very likely, but even with that you don't know. Keane might do really well and we might think there's no good value available and take the gamble with the four CB we have now. So I guess LVG is managing expectations.
About the commercial side of things and LVG's comments: I think he meant that in an ideal world, he would love to just stay at Carrington for the next weeks and start preparing for the Swansea home game already. But obviously we're going on tour, he doesn't mind that and understands we need the sponsoring, but he's already come in late, so it's just not ideal - nothing more.
No it's normal when they both say it, it's just Van Gaal knows what he's doing and knows what he wants from his players, Moyes is generally clueless.
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Louis Van Gaal on MUTV: "Ryan Giggs can teach me about the culture/club & I can teach him how to be a great manager."
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I don't think they need a rest and I also don't think we'd be sacrificing our season. We're just making sure that the money keeps flowing that is important for us to keep competing. Not sending them on tours throughout the world would also be giving up our advantage that we have over other teams in Europe. If it was to affect our results, I might rethink, but I don't think it'll make that much of a difference.
I have a feeling that the muppets on here who want more big name signings will soon start to hate him because LvG is a bit of an anti-muppet and is most likely going to give a talented youngster a chance before bringing in any big names.
You only need to look at our squad like it's FM to realize we need a centerhalf, simply because we have three left. Same goes for left back, if Evra goes. So while Van Gaal may take some time in order to make certain decisions - do we need a winger, or attacker of some position, for instance - I doubt we're talking about a 3-4 week halt in incoming transfers. Outgoing? Yeah, I expect it will take a few weeks, but there's no harm there.
So if I understand it correctly, Shaw and Herrera were the names he approved with from Moyes list (or whoever made that list) but not really his signings. After those deals we haven't been involved in the transfermarket in any kind of way (except selling Büttner, who he never rated before as Holland coach) and we aren't going to be involved until he gets a good look at the squad, which might take him atleast 2 or 3 weeks. So we aren't going to see any new signings or departures until then.
I understand where he is coming from, but ofcourse it is very dangerous, because alot of interesting players might already be off the market by then. It is going to be early August before we'll start moving players out and in again, might be to late to do it properly.
I understand where he is coming from, but ofcourse it is very dangerous, because alot of interesting players might already be off the market by then. It is going to be early August before we'll start moving players out and in again, might be to late to do it properly.
It will improve a lot in the coming two weeks, not much on accent though, but on vocubulary and grammar. He comes in fresh from the Dutch team, with a foreign language it always takes a few days to get the words from the back of your head to the front, closer to the mouth.
Van Gaal doesn't do positions in the club, he only does positions on the pitch and on the bench. My guess is that Rooney will accept that and earn a position in the starting 11 on his own merit.