Amazing wasn't it.
Channel 4 had this mini virtual reality game (much better than the main lost experience one) relating to the numbers, and that was really cool too.
"Every 108 minutes, a button must be pushed."
What did the numbers mean????
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Channel 4 had this mini virtual reality game (much better than the main lost experience one) relating to the numbers, and that was really cool too.
"Every 108 minutes, a button must be pushed."
What did the numbers mean????
The one with Hurley's first Flashback. Showing the lottery win. It all seemed so ridiculous initially but just by showing those numbers on the hatch at the end it actually made it more interesting (the hatch that is, the numbers were still sort of ridiculous).
Ohh I actually thought it was that one but didn't want to sound like an idiot in case I was wrong. Great episode, that.
One of my favourite scenes in any TV show ever.
I just do not agree with that at all. Its plainly obvious the island was not purgatory. I don't know what they have to do to convince people otherwise. The flash-sideways was a kind of purgatory but what happened on the island happened. Its that simple.
And that is Lost. This is the legacy the show leaves behind.
The fact that years after the show finishes we are still talking about it. The mysteries the writers left behind are what will keep conversation going for years on end.
They ultimately didn't mean anything, they just recurred a lot, I think it was meant to imbue the feeling of other worldliness or that there is some master plan or organiser. Each time you seen them you got this OH SHIT feeling because it seemed like there was some order and forethought to the madness, which ultimately wasn't the case.
Actually scratch that.
Jacob wrote the numbers in accordance to candidates for his replacement, it was a numbered list from which he eliminated undesirables, those that were still in the running by the end of the show proper, was the also the numbers, Jack was 4, hurley was 8 etc, I'm not sure if we are to assume this is the origin point of the numbers and given the islands wacky time/space travel nature that these numbers manifested into the world by leaking out somehow manipulating fate.
Or maybe it's just LOST universe own fibonacci sequence and it's all coincidence.
I agree to an extent - but the point about the island being purgatory is just plain wrong. Its not something that is debatable.
Well.... It did seem to act as a metaphorical purgatory, their time on the island was what bound them together and made them a 'family' it was the connecting point for them all in the actual purgatory and their actual moving on to what's next.
Then you have the random occurrences of people being 'purified of spirit' and then dying, like charlie or unrepentant and being struck down like Mr. Eko.
So I understand why people get confused, ultimately the Island was not actually purgatory, ironically the outside world, in S6 at least, was.
This. The writers made that unequivocally clear!
Suppose that's your perception - to me it wasn't and the writers did make that very clear as @SirAF says. The island was real - all the events around that were real. Season 6 was very much purgatory. The island acted as a conductor (or you could argue the people) for the characters to resolve their own internal conflicts. The name of the show was around the characters being "lost" philosophically (not the LVG meaning of philosophy!) rather than physically lost. They weren't sure about themselves, the choices they had made in life etc and their experiences on the island enabled them to "find" their way to peace.
Aye, I agree with you, but somehow people get confused I was trying to see it from their point of view.
So. fecking. Stupid.
The best theory I remember reading on darkufo was that the island was actually New York 10k years in the future, and the numbers related to important buildings in old new York on those streets (4th streets, 8th street, etc)
Made abosultely no sense but was very fleshed out and interesting
Made abosultely no sense but was very fleshed out and interesting
Well they aren't exactly going to turn around and say "Yeah you got us. Here, let's see what else we can make up over the next four years".
Also i think that people are confused about the purgatory perception.
The discussion isn't about whether the island was purgatory in the end.
It wasn't. We know. Everything happened.
The discussion is about whether when the show was conceived and initially started, whether the creators changed course to prelong the show.
I'm not saying the island is purgatory... Read what I've said previously.
? You said this 2 days ago:
"The problem was that everyone clocked on that they were already dead and that the island was purgatory."
How are you "not saying the island is purgatory"?
why is Lost being brought up again?
Indeed. Going with the theory that the island was intended to be purgatory and then was changed by the writers as the show went on.
Very simple concept to grasp.
I've explained this a few times.
I think you're misunderstanding him. He isn't saying the island was ultimately purgatory, he's saying that that's what it was intended to be, and everyone clocked on to it, so they changed it.
Cheers Twigg.
Ok @penalty snot - I see it now. Ultimately, I think that is also completely wrong but doubt we will agree.
Because it's such an incredible classic, and it'll stay as relevant as any Greek tragedy for aeons to come.
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No worries. We all love the show. That's all that matters
What? Where did I say it ended up being purgatory? Read my post again
Its plainly obvious that Im not saying it was purgatory, I know it ended up not being purgatory. My point was, given how the story was developing through the first season especially with the flashbacks, I think it was initially intended to be purgatory but the writers changed it to never be purgatory because it was guessed by the fans (hence they still ended up using a purgatory sideways flash)
Nobody, well not many people on here anyway, are saying that they believe the Island was purgatory because the writers didnt go that way.
Edit: Damnit, its been explained above by penalty snot / twigg lol.
I enjoyed the show, but I called the "purgatory" ending in the second series and was kind of disappointed when it transpired that way. Loved the show though and never missed an episode. In fact it was my first reguarly Tivoed show
I don't know whether this is an attempt to downplay my enthusiasm, having missed white text, or if it's giving it fair dues after what seems like a snarky white text post, but for the record I quite enjoyed it too. I don't care so much about where the show went as a whole, I just enjoyed the ride and the little vignettes which the show offered. The emotional impact of certain bits was quite strong for me too.
I'd agree, it was the same for me. What in particular for you?
No, just my synopsis of the show. I enjoyed the ride better than the ending too.
In particular, I'd say the moments when the alternate realities synched with their memories of each other from the island. Penny and Desmond touching, all those things. Those moments really hit me.
Aha, was just curious @Ramshock
Aye brother
Forgot how great the ending to the first season was! The twist with Walt being the one they were after was brilliant.
I also completely forgot the Black Rock was a ship! I now remember that there was a load of episodes in season 6(?) based around its origins.
I also completely forgot the Black Rock was a ship! I now remember that there was a load of episodes in season 6(?) based around its origins.
Season 4 done. Least favourite season by far, and the 'moving the island' stuff has to be the lowest point for the show, surely? From what I remember the quality jumps back up with Season 5 but i'm not 100%.
Glad the episode count is reduced because some of the filler episodes were becoming a bit of a chore.
That said, that episode in Season 3 with that random couple and the spider was nowhere near as bad as I remembered.
Glad the episode count is reduced because some of the filler episodes were becoming a bit of a chore.
That said, that episode in Season 3 with that random couple and the spider was nowhere near as bad as I remembered.
Is the guy who played Richard as amazing as I remember him being? Easily the best character for me, and probably the best actor, apart from Locke