True. She may have gone back for the rest of them?
Television Lost: The Final Season
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True. She may have gone back for the rest of them?
I loved it but the last episode completely ruined it for me. I don't know what I was expecting but it wasn't that. Didn't help that I watched the final episode of another programme that same week and it had the same premise but I found that programme handled it a lot better compared to Lost and you always had the sense that they knew where they were going whereas Lost just seemed to be getting more and more confusing after each episode passed. They kept adding more and more questions without properly answering half of them.
The thing with Lost is they invented so many brilliant characters, yet the actual story was pretty weak in comparison. I was really miffed that the writers managed to arse it all up when the characters were so good. It was frustration matched with sheer disgust.
It was a terrible ending. Essentially, what they explained was a plot point that they introduced half way into the show. The mysterious light in the Island? Oh, that's just a mysterious light in the Island.
Oh, ok then.
Oh, and rememeber "no, they're not all dead" from the writers? Yeah. Turns out they're all dead. Who saw that coming? Stellar writing.
Oh, ok then.
Oh, and rememeber "no, they're not all dead" from the writers? Yeah. Turns out they're all dead. Who saw that coming? Stellar writing.
To be fair the ending was underwhelming. Still loved the show though.
Yeah, I wish walking dead could do characters as well as Lost did.
Their problems started in S2 and S3 where they kept piling the mysteries up. They were never ever going to tie all that up properly.
Ending worked on a personal moment for the lead character. The last few moments were well done IMO. But plot wise, it was definitely under cooked. Also just talking about the island bit, the side ways universe thing I have decided to disregard completely on the account of being utter tripe
Wait...people STILL think they were all dead? rofl. Finale wasn't the best, but I'm sure either that episode or the previous one made it clear they weren't.
Frankly, I can't remember. I might have blocked it out. Either way, I know that I absolutely hated it. Not BSG-levels of hate, but pretty bad.
People are talking about the sideways universe I guess. But I understand what you mean, they died a long time after that.
Wikipedia said:
That's the one. Terrible, just terrible.
I like that it went straight over you head tbh, yet you still happily criticise it for wrong reasons
Straight over my head? I just confessed that I didn't remember exactly how it ended. It's been a long time since I saw it, and I've never seen the ending after the first time. Now I read up on it again, and it's all coming back.
It was still terrible writing. And it was still essentially "explaining" something that was introduced half way through the show.
In short, feck off.
It was still terrible writing. And it was still essentially "explaining" something that was introduced half way through the show.
In short, feck off.
season 2 was the best season.
Me when reminded of the ending of Lost
I always say to anyone watching the show for the first time, one of the greatest shows you will ever watch IF you skip the ending, leave it to the imagination. The ending ruined my life.
I always say to anyone watching the show for the first time, one of the greatest shows you will ever watch IF you skip the ending, leave it to the imagination. The ending ruined my life.
I always saw that about Battlestar Galactica.
I think endings might just be hard to write. Lost and BSG have been two of my absolute favourite tv series ever (BSG more so than Lost, particularly a few of those Lost seasons), but how they ended... I am not exaggerating when I am saying that BSG went from "best TV series I have ever seen" to watching it for the first time since it ended this week.
Then again, half of my favourite tv shows are cancelled before they even get to an ending. Some get it right, though. Like The Wire, or The Shield.
I think endings might just be hard to write. Lost and BSG have been two of my absolute favourite tv series ever (BSG more so than Lost, particularly a few of those Lost seasons), but how they ended... I am not exaggerating when I am saying that BSG went from "best TV series I have ever seen" to watching it for the first time since it ended this week.
Then again, half of my favourite tv shows are cancelled before they even get to an ending. Some get it right, though. Like The Wire, or The Shield.
See the ending of star trek enterprise..now thats what i call a farce!
Yet you happily pretended you did watch it AND didn't forget about it to make this statement.
"Oh, and rememeber "no, they're not all dead" from the writers? Yeah. Turns out they're all dead. Who saw that coming? Stellar writing."
Dunno why you getting u mad over it. At least now you wont make the same error again
I actually don't know why I'm defending mediocrity here, but your clearly overblowing stuff.
Never been into most Star Trek. I do quite like The Next Generation, there are some wonderful episodes there. Now that you warned me, I doubt I'll watch Enterprise, I really, really hate bad endings 
Yet you happily pretended you did watch it AND didn't forget about it to make this statement.
"Oh, and rememeber "no, they're not all dead" from the writers? Yeah. Turns out they're all dead. Who saw that coming? Stellar writing."
Dunno why you getting u mad over it. At least now you wont make the same error again
But it was still correct. Sort of. They were all dead, in the "alternate timeline", which had essentially been the main plot since half way through. And that's part of my complaint, that it doesn't really matter that they said "it's not a dream/purgatory/etc" to begin with, because all of that stuff never really got properly explained either.
The one thing I did immediately remember was "the light" in the Island. I was furious when I saw that episode. I believe they had promised that everything would be properly explained, and then... it's a light. In the island.
(Oh, and the reason I'm upset is because feck WIGAN)
Lost was like TV cocaine - the anticipation for each new episode / series was brilliant. the buildup tpo the final season orgasmic....then it just all became a bit of an anticlimax leaving a feeling of being a bit cheated
What last two seasons?
As far as I'm concerned, LOST was prematurely cancelled, and that's how it will remain in my memory. Loved it.
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
As far as I'm concerned, LOST was prematurely cancelled, and that's how it will remain in my memory. Loved it.
You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
Those saying "they where only dead in the sideways universe" that was never explicitly said, so they left it open to interpretation.
Jack asks "what is this place" and is told "somewhere you can all wait for each other" or something along those lines, and that can either mean both universes or just the one, The writers have said this, they wanted it to be open to interpretation.
Shite ending. The parallels with BSG are apt. Damien are you referring to Ashes to Ashes?
Jack asks "what is this place" and is told "somewhere you can all wait for each other" or something along those lines, and that can either mean both universes or just the one, The writers have said this, they wanted it to be open to interpretation.
Shite ending. The parallels with BSG are apt. Damien are you referring to Ashes to Ashes?
Yeah. I left out the name of the show in case there were people who hadn't saw the ending. I thought that was brilliant and though the ending that happened was inevitable I thought they did it well. Lost's ending wasn't exactly the same but it left a bitter taste in my mouth afterwards. A lot of people didn't like Ashes to Ashes and while I would have preferred Life on Mars to go on forever (Simm and Glenister were brilliant) I thought it was still a good programme.
Yeah I completely agree. Did you hear about the American version of Life on Mars, they
woke up on a rocket ship to mars
I'm ridiculously disappointed with Lost's ending, it deserved some hint which once we knew about it we could go back and watch the entire 6 seasons and discover what it was all really about. Instead they ran out of ideas, ran out of steam, got too clever, and pretty much gave up.
Ashes to Ashes on the other hand was a nice ending to a nice show. It didn't leave anything left to explain, it didn't gloss over things even though it did it all in one episode.
Oh I heard about that alright
I didn't see all of their episodes but I saw the ending and it pissed me off no end. Here it is in the spoilers (At the 5 minute mark is where the bit in your spoiler happens):It might have made more sense to me if I had watched the previous episodes but just from that bit alone I thought they massacred it and from what I've heard the whole series was a shambles.
Didn't realise that guy was the main character, he is becoming the king of cancelled shows.
RIP Tera Nova
RIP Tera Nova
Ashes to Ashes ended well. Same kind of expectation, but they delivered it well. That said, Lost had 6 seasons of 20ish episodes and just meandered to feck along the way to the point that you really felt you'd been had by the end. Life on Mars & Ashes to Ashes operated on a villan of the week with an arching storyline basis. With Lost you were in it for the arching story. Which was shit.
Holy shit. Gene Hunt. Wonder if they threw that in there deliberately so it could end like that if it wanted too.
Sometimes I feel disappointed with how short our series are with there being six or so episodes then the long wait until the next series comes around but when I think of the likes of Heroes, Prison Break and Lost a few years ago which all promised a lot but in the first two cases fizzled out and the last one had a terrible ending it can have it's advantages.
Those three had different problems:
1. Heroes and the writers strike (Tim Kring said that there being so many episodes was part of their downfall but I think there being no real sense of direction and storylines being repeated a lot was a bigger problem which may have been a result of there being so many episodes)
2. Prison Break and the concept. Once they broke out of the first prison there was not much else they could do (following the escape was a natural progression but after that they should have ended it. Instead they tried to break out of another prison and it got tired).
3. Lost and the numerous questions which kept on piling up.
What all three had in common was their success at the time. They were popular so more episodes were made that the producers of each show hadn't actually thought about beforehand. They had something in mind but as more and more episodes and series were commissioned they just dragged it out further and there were more filler episodes. Instead they should have ended a lot earlier with a lot less episodes. People may have been disappointed at it ending early but at least it would be more likely that they'd be happy with the ending.
This comment is a good one: http://collider.com/tim-kring-heroes/68585/#comment-97725
I think so (though perhaps not to the extent that the US show did). According to Glenister in an interview, originally he wasn't called Hunt but Burroughs:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2010/mar/15/gene-hunt-last-stand-ashes
If you want an ending where you can go back and rewatch more and more that gives hints to what really happened....Sopranos is your shit.
LOST was all about Science and Religion, and well basically since Religion is all about blind loyalty with no true side, one half of LOST had to follow that, which it did with the light, who their mum was, and a lot of other things they really couldn't answer. Most of the scientific stuff, was unsurprisingly, answered, just in a ridiculously confusing way, although most of it does make sense according to some physics students. I didn't think it was Quantum Leap bad at least, they gave us some closure in LOST.
LOST was all about Science and Religion, and well basically since Religion is all about blind loyalty with no true side, one half of LOST had to follow that, which it did with the light, who their mum was, and a lot of other things they really couldn't answer. Most of the scientific stuff, was unsurprisingly, answered, just in a ridiculously confusing way, although most of it does make sense according to some physics students. I didn't think it was Quantum Leap bad at least, they gave us some closure in LOST.
I've actually already seen the ending to The Soprano's before I even started watching the show, think I just came across it on youtube one day. It's kind of weird, but I remember the ending was pretty cool, and that I know I won't be disappointed by it. I try to blank it out of my memory when watching the show (I've gotten about 5 series in thus far). I think in a way it's quite comfortable knowing that I won't get the heartbreak of Lost's ending again (I know, first world problems).
Heroes was a travesty, I can't even begin to describe that. The first season was so good.
Why writers strike, why????
I think our series benefit greatly from the standard 6 episode run. It's great when great US series have loads of eps, but on the whole, I think the pitfalls are greater than the benefits. Certainly legacy wise. This is also mainly because our series tend to be written by one, or two people, whereas American series are written by huge crews of people (save Aaron Sorkin's crack period)
When Lost was going on and you were watching it every week, or waiting for the new season, etc, it was kinda fun to watch. Season 1 was good, season 2 was shite because it had no direction at all for them wanting to get of the island or what they wanted to do at all. S2 really was a pile. It started getting better and they had some solid eps. But then you get to the finale. I remember the Lost finale was broadcast at the same time for around the world or something (it was 6am to 8am UK time) and I remember waking up early to see it (as I didnt want to be spoiled)
You're watching the ep and there are some cool things, but then they reveal the sideways timeline, and you end up thinking.... thats it? Really? It was almost like you wasted 6 years of your life following this show.
I think the problem was they were kinda making up episodes as they were going on. I remember season 2 or 3 had soooo much jack, Kate and sawyer and fans were getting sick of it, so they decided to cut back on them and focus on other characters. It was all bizarre at the time because you're thinking "wait, they are changing it based on fans reaction rather than having a story set in place?"
Also didnt JJ abrams leave after season 1 to do MI3 and other movies like Cloverfield and the story kinda broke apart after that.
You're watching the ep and there are some cool things, but then they reveal the sideways timeline, and you end up thinking.... thats it? Really? It was almost like you wasted 6 years of your life following this show.
I think the problem was they were kinda making up episodes as they were going on. I remember season 2 or 3 had soooo much jack, Kate and sawyer and fans were getting sick of it, so they decided to cut back on them and focus on other characters. It was all bizarre at the time because you're thinking "wait, they are changing it based on fans reaction rather than having a story set in place?"
Also didnt JJ abrams leave after season 1 to do MI3 and other movies like Cloverfield and the story kinda broke apart after that.
it was never jj abrams show, so he didn't really leave, he justed basically endorsed it and directed the pilot to get it going because he's good friends with lindelof. but he did nothing after that.
Ben was only supposed to be there for one or two episodes. And he turned out to be a pretty damn major character. So I think it's safe to say they had no fecking clue where they were going with it.
I feel as if I have to post this everytime anything Lost related comes up:
Aside from the 99 final, that is probably the best and most entertaining 3 minutes of television I have ever seen. I am still aghast at this scene now - it's just perfect. Was this the clincher for anyone else to watch every single episode one after another consecutively for the next couple of weeks?
Edit: Shit, goosebumps now watching that again.
The mindfeck of the realisation that he's been disabled all along, the beauty of a a man having his most enlightening and magical moment amongst a scene of utter chaos, Jack ordering him about as soon as he takes his first step again....brilliant. Quite simply, not just the best part of Lost but, for me, the best and most emotional scene I have seen in any series!
Aside from the 99 final, that is probably the best and most entertaining 3 minutes of television I have ever seen. I am still aghast at this scene now - it's just perfect. Was this the clincher for anyone else to watch every single episode one after another consecutively for the next couple of weeks?
Edit: Shit, goosebumps now watching that again.
The mindfeck of the realisation that he's been disabled all along, the beauty of a a man having his most enlightening and magical moment amongst a scene of utter chaos, Jack ordering him about as soon as he takes his first step again....brilliant. Quite simply, not just the best part of Lost but, for me, the best and most emotional scene I have seen in any series!
All the best US drams in last decade or so have been 10-12 episodes a season ones.
Wire
Deadwood
BB
Sopranos
Justified
Sons of Anarchy
Dexter (till s4)
All critically acclaimed series.
20 episodes are more is just too long for a longer story arc.