Television Lost: The Final Season

Didn't mind the whole flash-sideways storyline, I thought that was great.

The temple others were very disappointing, as was the smoke monster / Jacob origin story.
 
I used to watch the Lost Initiative and they made me laugh when they said they'd turn gay for Desmond....terrific character - don't think I've seen him in anything else
 
Can understand disappointment about the ending and the direction of the storyline (although I don't have too many complaints) but I don't think you can say the quality dropped significantly from season four and onwards. There were so many filler episodes in season three (especially in the beginning of the season with Jack's tattoos and kites), and season two was just a bit bland, whereas season four was probably the tightliest told season-arc of the series (the shortened season was a blessing in disguise after two seasons of water threading). Season five and (especially) six had some of the best and most emotionally impactful episodes.
 
Jev said:
Can understand disappointment about the ending and the direction of the storyline (although I don't have too many complaints) but I don't think you can say the quality dropped significantly from season four and onwards. There were so many filler episodes in season three (especially in the beginning of the season with Jack's tattoos and kites), and season two was just a bit bland, whereas season four was probably the tightliest told season-arc of the series (the shortened season was a blessing in disguise after two seasons of water threading). Season five and (especially) six had some of the best and most emotionally impactful episodes.
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I agree, it was just brilliant television!
 
I can't remember which series it was, but there was one series that felt rather empty and I realised recently when rewatching it that it was because of the significant lack of extras in the scenes. I know it sounds stupid, but my enjoyment diminished when the show stopped screaming "Big Budget" at me.
 
What happened to Boon in the final episode? Why was he not in that purgatory reveal scene? Or was he? I can't remember...
 
Been 2 years since my last rerun, once I've finished a few shows I'm currently midway through I'll either be revisiting lost or BSG next
 
Nickosaur said:
Season 1 was excellent. Season 2 had its moments but was weaker. I really liked Season 3 and 4. Season 4 especially seemed to do well with a reduced season of only 12 episodes; I really enjoyed the freighter stuff and some of the new characters like Faraday were interesting, and The Constant was one of the best episodes of TV ever.

I still enjoyed Season 5 and 6 but it could have been so much better. The time-travelling was a bit ridiculous.
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SirAF said:
Absolutely, brilliant stuff it was!

I watched the season final on friday, always emotional!
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Agree with both of you :)
 
Which season was that episode where they introduced new characters, gave them a back story then killed them within an hour? Was that the one with the spiders?
made me so mad
 
Man Utd Mrs said:
He's excellent in a film called "Dead like me".

I share a birthday with Henry Ian Cusick :)
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That was so bad. The series was so good though. Dunno why Mandy Patinkin didn't do the film, though I assume he read the script.
 
GloryHunter07 said:
Which season was that episode where they introduced new characters, gave them a back story then killed them within an hour? Was that the one with the spiders?
made me so mad
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Season 3. Nikki and Paulo, and yes, that was the episode with the spiders. They had bigger plans for them, but they actually killed them off to appease the fans who hated them with a passion from the first sight. Their gruesome dead, buried alive, was also a rather sadistic way of pleasing the fans. I actually thought Expose, the one where they died, was a pretty cool one-episode arc.
 
I absolutely loved Lost (until the end), and absolutely loved the Constant... but I have a guilty secret that I didnt quite understand that episode which ruined it a bit :lol:
 
rcoobc said:
I absolutely loved Lost (until the end), and absolutely loved the Constant... but I have a guilty secret that I didnt quite understand that episode which ruined it a bit :lol:
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What didn't you understand? I'll have a stab at it :P
 
SirAF said:
What didn't you understand? I'll have a stab at it :P
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Ah, I can't really remember. I've got the boxset downstairs so I might have to give it a watch tomorrow.

From memory, I seemed to watch the episode thinking Desmond couldn't remember much/anything from his flashbacks and he wasn't in control. Then at the end he was in control and told Penny to pick up the phone in 8 years time (or whatever)



See he doesn't remember. I don't remember. No I remember.....



Desmond's consciousness is back in time (kinda). Penny doesnt like him. He tells her that she must pick up the phone in 8 years. In between those 8 years though, do they not have a long relationship. I think they do. Because Penny is looking for him.

It's all a bit confusing. :lol:
 
rcoobc said:
Ah, I can't really remember. I've got the boxset downstairs so I might have to give it a watch tomorrow.

From memory, I seemed to watch the episode thinking Desmond couldn't remember much/anything from his flashbacks and he wasn't in control. Then at the end he was in control and told Penny to pick up the phone in 8 years time (or whatever)



See he doesn't remember. I don't remember. No I remember.....



Desmond's consciousness is back in time (kinda). Penny doesnt like him. He tells her that she must pick up the phone in 8 years. In between those 8 years though, do they not have a long relationship. I think they do. Because Penny is looking for him.

It's all a bit confusing. :lol:
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Yeah, it was an intricate episode alright! I think Penny looked for him, probably because she had changed her mind/missed him or something like that.
 
Lost isn't about the island. It isn't about the mystery or the magic. About the smoke monster or the others.

It's about the characters. About them being lost; spiritually, mentally and physically.

It's about us and everyone we know, finding who we really are in the most extreme situations.

It's about finding each other.

Age, race, religion, politics, wealth, health, anything you can think of is discussed, with the island being used as a catalyst.

Science versus religion; the ending catering to both sides of the argument without ever committing to a definitive answer from the creators. They let you decide.

Many people complain that the ending didn't make sense. That not all the questions were answered.

Firstly I'd advise you to listen very clearly to the exchange between
Jack and his father
. Everything that needs to be told about what happened on the island and after the island is right there.

Secondly, not all mysteries need be solved. "What is the island?" is akin to "How did humans get here?". There is a scientific explanation and a faith based answer. The show lets you decide.

In the end, the characters that we grew to love, that we watched change over six seasons, we're no longer lost.

Because they found themselves and each other.
 
penalty snot said:
Lost isn't about the island. It isn't about the mystery or the magic. About the smoke monster or the others.

It's about the characters. About them being lost; spiritually, mentally and physically.

It's about us and everyone we know, finding who we really are in the most extreme situations.

It's about finding each other.

Age, race, religion, politics, wealth, health, anything you can think of is discussed, with the island being used as a catalyst.

Science versus religion; the ending catering to both sides of the argument without ever committing to a definitive answer from the creators. They let you decide.

Many people complain that the ending didn't make sense. That not all the questions were answered.

Firstly I'd advise you to listen very clearly to the exchange between
Jack and his father
. Everything that needs to be told about what happened on the island and after the island is right there.

Secondly, not all mysteries need be solved. "What is the island?" is akin to "How did humans get here?". There is a scientific explanation and a faith based answer. The show lets you decide.

In the end, the characters that we grew to love, that we watched change over six seasons, we're no longer lost.

Because they found themselves and each other.
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Well written, I agree.
 
Just got to the episode with the briefcase. Bit of a filler but some great stuff so far. Ive seen lots of references (well, a few) to the dark and light stuff so far, doesn't all that tie in at the end?

Mainly, the backgammon pieces, the Adam and Eve at the cave and John Locke's eyes in Claire's nightmare.
 
Jev said:
Season 3. Nikki and Paulo, and yes, that was the episode with the spiders. They had bigger plans for them, but they actually killed them off to appease the fans who hated them with a passion from the first sight. Their gruesome dead, buried alive, was also a rather sadistic way of pleasing the fans. I actually thought Expose, the one where they died, was a pretty cool one-episode arc.
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I just felt it was the ultimate filler episode.
 
Woodzy said:
Just got to the episode with the briefcase. Bit of a filler but some great stuff so far. Ive seen lots of references (well, a few) to the dark and light stuff so far, doesn't all that tie in at the end?

Mainly, the backgammon pieces, the Adam and Eve at the cave and John Locke's eyes in Claire's nightmare.
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The backgammon pieces are symbolic and it will make sense eventually and Adam and Eve are also explained. Can't say that I remember the part about Locke's eyes.
 
Did anyone notice the stained glass window in the scene with Jack and his father?
Seemed to have all sorts of different religious symbols on it.
 
Is this show worth the watch? I remember watching the first series (Possibly the second) when it was on channel 4 back when it started and loved it! Then when it switched to Sky One I lost track of it, and never picked it back up. Was wondering though if its worth watching it all? Even though I roughly know the ending!
 
Matty7 said:
Is this show worth the watch? I remember watching the first series (Possibly the second) when it was on channel 4 back when it started and loved it! Then when it switched to Sky One I lost track of it, and never picked it back up. Was wondering though if its worth watching it all? Even though I roughly know the ending!
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Absolutely! It is my all time favorite TV show :drool: You just have to take the show for what it is and you'll enjoy it greatly I believe.
 
Matty7 said:
Is this show worth the watch? I remember watching the first series (Possibly the second) when it was on channel 4 back when it started and loved it! Then when it switched to Sky One I lost track of it, and never picked it back up. Was wondering though if its worth watching it all? Even though I roughly know the ending!
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Yes, worth starting from the beginning, and enjoying the ride. Its not perfect, but a damn good immersive show with some excellent characters.
 
Loved the show, lost its way a bit season 3, but picked up again season 4 and enjoyed the whole 70's theme.

Ending, it's one of those where if you never had the internet and couldn't research into to what the producers was thinking, you'd just be like :nervous:forever.
 
Thanks! Guess I will start from the beginning again then as its been so long.
 
penalty snot said:
Lost isn't about the island. It isn't about the mystery or the magic. About the smoke monster or the others.

It's about the characters. About them being lost; spiritually, mentally and physically.
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While this is a valid point, I still don't think this excuses the direction Lost eventually went with, and I'll explain why below.

When I saw the last episode of Lost a few years back, I was left in a state of shock. After gathering my thoughts, I still couldn't figure out what I actually thought about the ending. When I went online, I noticed that there was pretty much a split 50/50 decision, with both sides being polar opposites. You either loved the ending, or you hated it. There was no middle-ground, and the debates got really ugly. It was like watching Apple and Samsung fanboys.

I could understand both sides in this argument. On one hand, Lost is an amazing series. The characters, the dialogue, the soundtrack, the visuals, the acting, all of it was top notch. I consider myself a critical viewer, and thus I think that it was mostly these elements that made me tune in for the next episode.

But then it struck me why I was disappointed as well. You see, the thing about Lost is that the main attraction was the always mysteries. At the end of the day, for a show like Lost, it's the story that is the most important element. And well, the story was pretty much the mysteries! It's what kept a lot of people hooked(myself included). Sure, if the show just had the mysteries and none of the other amazing aspects that I mentioned in the paragraph above, then I certainly wouldn't have been hooked. But the mysteries was still a very important part. An essential part, in my opinion. And if the mysteries can't be explained properly or lose focus, then they are eventually just pointless.

The problem with Lost is that it wasn't based on an already finished script. They just sort of kept writing, trying to figure out new stuff along the way. Sometimes this can work out, but in the case of Lost it just didn't. At the end, many viewers felt cheated, and I can totally understand their frustration. I get that not all visual products need to be perfectly understood and explained. I can definitely enjoy an artsy movie, full of confusing symbolism. But here's the thing: an artsy movie is over in 2 hours. Lost lasted for 6 LONG seasons! And not only that; it pretended to be something it's not, just to keep viewers.

To this day, I'm still not sure what to make of Lost. I enjoyed it while watching, but sort of despise it in hindsight. I acknowledge the characters, dialogue, visuals, music and acting, but the story and the mysteries are a mess at best. What I do know for sure, is that I'll never bother watching it again.

 
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GloryHunter07 said:
I just felt it was the ultimate filler episode.
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Well, it was, but like I said, there were bigger plans for the characters. With the backlash from the fans, the writers thought they had to let them go but that it would be weird to just stop writing them from one episode to the next, which is why they killed them off.
 
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