Television Lost: The Final Season

Ah, I thought you was going to complain about the images not being exactly identical.

I liked the ending...

but the last 10 minutes annoyed the hell out of me, mainly because I didnt understand it at first. The alt timeline being purgatory does make more sense though the more I think about it.

I am looking forward to the season 6 box set to come out so I can have an ultra marathon of Lost from start to end
 
Look people, stop posting in spoilers. If someone who hasn't seen the finale hops into the thread after the finale has aired in both the US and the UK, they deserve to have everything spoiled for them.

As for the ending... It's not quite as bad as Battlestar Galactica, for me. I think I'll still be able to watch particularly the early seasons, and enjoy them.

Maybe the finale will grow on me, when I get a chance to think about it.

But it annoys me that while it had plenty of closure, it had not a single explanation, except for the overarching one. But do they actually explain anything about the island or anything on it? Basically they just created another big, unrelated mystery late in the show, and then "sort of" explained that in the finale.
 
We'll post in spoilers if we want to. Doesn't hurt, even if you feel it serves no purpose.

I'm honestly not bothered about the little questions and explanations. For me the island was just the setting for what was the most important thing in the characters.
 
Mr. Eko

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje was offered a guest spot in this episode, but this was cut after he demanded five times the amount of money he was offered.

What a prick.

You don't even know what he was offered. They might have offered him £5 and bag jelly babies for all you know.

feck you Eko! Once a gangster always a gangster

See above.
 
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That was one hell of a leap punch. I don't think he hit him though.
 
but they had every faith there, did you not see all the statues

I didn't no..I haven't re-watched it either. But that makes it more bearable. I would still have rather went the A2A route and didn't mention any faiths at all...but you can't always get what you want.

Anyway, my take on the complications of the FS was that it was the lives they felt they deserved subconsciously. Hence why Kate and Sayid for example didn't have rosy happy joy joy ones. Sayid even stated he didn't deserve to be with Nadia, so that's why he's with Shannon, and Jack didn't feel he deserved to be with Kate (or that he'd ruined it when he had the cahnce, which he stated in the real world) thus imagined himself with someone else he had a brief romantic connection to.

Makes vague sense.
 
They were right to turn him down then, 5 bags of jelly babies is just irresponsible.
 
You don't even know what he was offered. They might have offered him £5 and bag jelly babies for all you know.



See above.

Combined with the fact that he was known to have caused trouble on set and asked to be written out of the show didn't really help my opinion of him. Plus I'd imagine they offered Maggie Grace, Ian Somerhalder, etc.. the same money.
 
Also...

Jack didn't die because he stayed behind to save the island from the evil light - and thus rather pointlessly - ..he died because Locke stabbed him (he says to Hugo, I'm dying anyway or I'm dead anyway, or something) and stayed behind, leaving Kate and stuff to save the island from the stupid evil light because of it....

Or at least I'm chosing to interpret it like that...because otherwise he basically did it for something he really had no idea about at all. Which would've been stupid IMO
 
Well... now it's all over I'm feeling less inclined to care about the mysteries... I mean, I think people overstate the amount of stuff that went unsolved. Like people STILL ask questions about Dharma.. I mean what the feck...

I think a lot of things were actually explained pretty well throughout the series... and the ones that were left hanging, well a lot of them can be debated and our own conclusions can be drawn.

Portal:Mysterious - Lostpedia - The Lost Encyclopedia

Take a look here and see the amount of shit that has actually been resolved compared to the stuff that hasn't... and really the stuff that hasn't can be assumed in most cases. (The food drop was never confirmed, but the timelag in around the island could explain it for example).

I dunno... I guess the show was at it's best when the characters were more important than the mysteries... it lost it's way at times but overall it's an incredible piece of TV. Really, the cult following, the internet phenomenon is created, the fact that for the past 6 years I could say to someone 'Hey do you watch Lost?' and then be engaged in conversation for the next 3 hours.. it really is a landmark show in TV history.
 
What the hell was the point of the flash sideways? As it turned out It added nothing to the story as a whole

They just stuck it into the final season and we all wondered what it could be about. But it was pointless in the end. Damn

I did enjoy the finale, and already accepted there was not going to be a big answer that would solve all puzzles. But I do feel a bit cheated out of 6 years
 
any closure on
walt? and why he was special, or have i forgotten that?

Nah. I think they dropped his whole character after the actor started growing too fast. It was a bit weird that Michael didn't appear in the finale though. Even if he doesnt get to be in the church in the end he still could have some cameo. Harold Perrineau was on the Kimmel show with the other actors after.
 
Nah. I think they dropped his whole character after the actor started growing too fast. It was a bit weird that Michael didn't appear in the finale though. Even if he doesnt get to be in the church in the end he still could have some cameo. Harold Perrineau was on the Kimmel show with the other actors after.

that will niggle at me when i think back about the show, i think they should have made it a 3 hour finale and attempted to try to tie one or 2 more loose ends up.
 
that will niggle at me when i think back about the show, i think they should have made it a 3 hour finale and attempted to try to tie one or 2 more loose ends up.

And say what?

How do you explain how a kid has special powers? How do you explain why Miles can hear the dead? Why Hurley can see the dead? Maybe they should explain the theory of time travel cause I have no feckin' idea how that's possible either.

Ok I'm being a bit of a dick.. but seriously... some of these mysterious people want solved are ludicrous. It's a Sci-Fi show after all... you can't explain away shit that ain't possible in the real world, at least not to any veritable degree. It's kind of like when a kid keeps asking his parents 'Why?' 'Why?' 'Why?' eventually there just isn't an answer.
 
What the hell was the point of the flash sideways? As it turned out It added nothing to the story as a whole

They just stuck it into the final season and we all wondered what it could be about. But it was pointless in the end. Damn

I did enjoy the finale, and already accepted there was not going to be a big answer that would solve all puzzles. But I do feel a bit cheated out of 6 years

They were kind of a way to give everyone a reunion at the end so they could be together one last time. I think for me and others (not sure if you did) that have watched back from 2004 and loved every character it was brilliantly done and I loved it. It was also a way of showing what happens after the end, without having to waste time after the end showing it. Funny how everyone hated the flashsideways at the start of the season and it turned out to be one of the best things about it in the end (gauging from most peoples opinions anyway).
 
And say what?

How do you explain how a kid has special powers? How do you explain why Miles can hear the dead? Why Hurley can see the dead? Maybe they should explain the theory of time travel cause I have no feckin' idea how that's possible either.

Ok I'm being a bit of a dick.. but seriously... some of these mysterious people want solved are ludicrous. It's a Sci-Fi show after all... you can't explain away shit that ain't possible in the real world, at least not to any veritable degree. It's kind of like when a kid keeps asking his parents 'Why?' 'Why?' 'Why?' eventually there just isn't an answer.

It's like when people asked about Jacob and MIB, we saw the episode and we met the Mother character. Then people were wanting to know where she came from. If they showed us that then they'd want to know where the next person came from. We'd have to go all the way back to the beginning of time to satisfy some fans thirst for answers. I can see where they're coming from but I think they got too caught up in the mythology and forgot what was the true purpose of the show.
 
Will be interesting to see where the actors go from here.

I can't see O'Quinn & Emerson being out of work for long, excellent actors. Locke's evil look as Smokey he kept doing in the finale was creepy as feck. Fox was also excellent as the season went on. I read somewhere that Evangeline Lilly won't be doing much acting after this, will be doing missionary work or something.
 
It's like when people asked about Jacob and MIB, we saw the episode and we met the Mother character. Then people were wanting to know where she came from. If they showed us that then they'd want to know where the next person came from. We'd have to go all the way back to the beginning of time to satisfy some fans thirst for answers. I can see where they're coming from but I think they got too caught up in the mythology and forgot what was the true purpose of the show.

Surely it's up to people themselves to decide what's important about the show. You can't lecture people on what to care about.
 
I can't see O'Quinn & Emerson being out of work for long, excellent actors. Locke's evil look as Smokey he kept doing in the finale was creepy as feck. Fox was also excellent as the season went on. I read somewhere that Evangeline Lilly won't be doing much acting after this, will be doing missionary work or something.

I would rather see Evangeline Lilly doing missionary than O'quinns next acting role.
 
Look people, stop posting in spoilers. If someone who hasn't seen the finale hops into the thread after the finale has aired in both the US and the UK, they deserve to have everything spoiled for them.

Wrong

It doesn't air on Irish tv till Friday, so give it a rest. Theres more in the world than the US and UK you know
 
Surely it's up to people themselves to decide what's important about the show. You can't lecture people on what to care about.

I suppose, but the writers have said when it all comes down to it it's about the characters, so that probably was their main goal to show us in the finale. Wasn't trying to have a go at people who want things solved, was just kind of a where does it stop kinda thing.
 
I can't see O'Quinn & Emerson being out of work for long, excellent actors. Locke's evil look as Smokey he kept doing in the finale was creepy as feck. Fox was also excellent as the season went on. I read somewhere that Evangeline Lilly won't be doing much acting after this, will be doing missionary work or something.

Fox stated a while ago that he wont be doing any more tv shows as he thinks hell be stuck as being known as Jack for all eternity - which tbf, I think can be said for most of the main cast
 
I suppose, but the writers have said when it all comes down to it it's about the characters, so that probably was their main goal to show us in the finale. Wasn't trying to have a go at people who want things solved, was just kind of a where does it stop kinda thing.

Loads of people watched Lost because of the mysteries. In fact, its aura of enigma and the "strange island" were the whole premise of the show. That they've not bothered to answer huge swathes of the questions, and instead focussed on the characters, makes it nothing more than - as someone brilliantly phrased it - a six-year soap opera with mysteries attached to keep people watching.

But you sound just like one of my mates, Solius. He's a ridiculously huge Lost fanboy - the last episode could just have been six hours of JJ Abrams cockslapping the camera and he'd claim it was great and find some way of explaining how that fit into the story.
 
theres nothing wrong in enjoying it for what it was CD, pure entertainment. For me its been the best television entertainment i've watched for the last 6 years if not for as long as i can remember. I'd say a big thank you to the cast, writers and producers if i could.
As Russell Crowe said in Gladiator "were you not entertained?"

Yes i fecking was
 
Count Duckula in not liking it shocker.

But each to their own.
 
Ah, but maybe that's the difference between us. It was never one of my favourite shows, but I did enjoy it just because the setting was good and I liked getting involved in the mysteries we were presented with. So now that they've failed to answer quite a few of those mysteries it feels as if I've been taken for a ride a bit.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I liked some of the characters, but none of them will go down in my all-time favourite character list. I watched because of Lost's unique angle - the wierdness about the island, and so am disappointed those were not resolved.


I was too young for that shit.
 
Speaking of people asking how it ended...I was talking to my dad on the way to the Mexico game tonight, and he asked about it, having watched the pilot and loved it, but then being a dad never bothered to follow any of it through like some fleeting unfinished shed project.

Since he's taped the Ashes to Ashes finale and had been told by someone it was a bit like that, I had to avoid any of the FS stuff, and just tell him how the Island show ended...Basically all the stuff the pilot begged answers for...Explaining Lost to the season 1 brigade, and in essence, myself 6 years ago too.

Whilst explaining to him that the Island was a cork to stop some evil red light thingy from escaping by clogging it with some happy yellow magic light, that the monster was a Roman man who was thrown down a cave and became immortal ticking smoke, and that jack died because he felt he needed to protect all this without it really being explained to him, I realised what a massive crock of shit the actual on Island mystery stuff actually was. it was all nonsense I wouldn't tolerate from a Blue Peter creative writing competition entry.

And that in some bizarre way, the FS reveal is actually the best thing about the finale, even though that actual final reveal is my least favorite part of the finale. If that makes any sense at all.

...With some more thinking...I've decided that for 2hrs + The final shot it was probably the greatest finale they could've done...The last half hour minus the final shot let it down. Not in the actual idea of the FS, which I didn't actually mind at all, and even quite liked...but in the way it was done.

Basically, any show that ends with people "walking towards the light" in slow motion can feck right off. I have a massive problem with any show lame enough to end like that.

But oddly, since almost everything else about it was so emotionally overpowering, I still really quite like it...It was really oddly quite satisfying to me, if I block out the cheesy wankness of the church huggles

In summary...I'm still hugely confused. .

P.S. I don't give a flying feck about the food drop.
 
I can't see O'Quinn & Emerson being out of work for long, excellent actors. Locke's evil look as Smokey he kept doing in the finale was creepy as feck. Fox was also excellent as the season went on. I read somewhere that Evangeline Lilly won't be doing much acting after this, will be doing missionary work or something.

On Letterman she said she was going to try her hand at writing for a bit.

Daniel Dae Kim is going to be in a Hawaii five-O reamake I think.
 
Did you end up rewatching Season one before the finale Mockney? Did it make those reunion scenes any better? (Not that they weren't good but you know what I mean).